Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don’t – But Tonight, We Do!
Let’s face it — Charlton can’t win sometimes. Pull their finger out and try to make a big night even bigger? Cue the moans. Do nothing and treat it like a midweek match in February? Cue more moans. But credit where it’s due — the club have clearly pulled out the stops to make tonight one to remember. So, I’m saying it now: thank you, Charlton!
This is the most important game we’ve had in six long years. That’s six years of mid-table mediocrity, managerial swaps, and wondering if the Bovril machine will be working. So let’s give the club some applause for trying to create a cracking atmosphere. The Covered End Red Wall, the TIFOs in the West and East stands, the 1987 heroes parade — it’s all part of turning up the volume and making it feel like a proper event.
Let’s be honest, none of this is going to stop the fans singing their hearts out. If anything, it’ll give us a proper boost before kick-off. What’s the issue? Yes, it’s still “just a match” — but it’s also a semi final with a Wembley Final as the prize . The intentions are genuine, the execution isn't half-bad, and yes, they got their act together slightly late (par for the course), but it’s all positive. Even giving 1,000 seats to the Jimmy Seed stand for our lot and that cracking drummer video — it's all adding to the buzz.
You just know that the EFL and Sky are quietly rooting for a Charlton v Orient final — a proper London showcase, a guaranteed large crowd, a potential Wembley classic. Only a few thousand Wycombe fans (and maybe a nervous ticketing department) will be against it.
So bring the noise, bring the good vibes — and most of all, bring it home. COYA’s!
Palace didn’t invent this stuff and it looks great when it’s done well. Unfortunately, we have too many miserable old bastards in our support making heroic stands against ever doing any thing different for it to fully work.
And that’s the way we like it, we like it, we like it. Wooo ooo ooo
Just leave the fans to do what they have always done. Sing, shout & cheer. No other bollox is needed.
This & the half & half scarves just proves to me that the owners haven't a clue how to run an English football club.
Utter gash.
Ps. I'm in the Covered End tomorrow. If there is anything on my seat when I get into the ground its getting torn up and/or thrown onto the pitch.
In England, throwing objects onto the pitch at a football match is illegal and taken very seriously. Here are the key legal and disciplinary aspects:
Criminal Law
Under the Football (Offences) Act 1991, it is a criminal offence to:
"Throw any object onto the playing area or into the crowd without lawful authority or excuse."
Penalty: This offence can lead to arrest, fines or even a custodial sentence depending on the severity.
Football Banning Orders: Courts may issue a Football Banning Order (FBO), preventing the individual from attending football matches for a period (typically 3–10 years).
The west stand ? Oh my word can you imagine, thermos flasks being kicked over, blankets being trampled on, all the poor buggers with arthritis/rheumatism struggling to lift their arms. They'll be too knackered to clap & cheer after all that effort. Nurse !!!
I think you're getting your East and West mixed up! The West is full of athletes.
Well said Bob 👏🏼 Unfortunately at Charlton in 2025, the Victor Ludorum winner in 1969 😄 has turned into Victor Meldrew 😞
Just leave the fans to do what they have always done. Sing, shout & cheer. No other bollox is needed.
This & the half & half scarves just proves to me that the owners haven't a clue how to run an English football club.
Utter gash.
Ps. I'm in the Covered End tomorrow. If there is anything on my seat when I get into the ground its getting torn up and/or thrown onto the pitch.
In England, throwing objects onto the pitch at a football match is illegal and taken very seriously. Here are the key legal and disciplinary aspects:
Criminal Law
Under the Football (Offences) Act 1991, it is a criminal offence to:
"Throw any object onto the playing area or into the crowd without lawful authority or excuse."
Penalty: This offence can lead to arrest, fines or even a custodial sentence depending on the severity.
Football Banning Orders: Courts may issue a Football Banning Order (FBO), preventing the individual from attending football matches for a period (typically 3–10 years).
Three to ten years? Yes, Golfie, do it!
Please don't tell Starmer about the dozen pigs I chucked on the pitch, I'd get life I reckon.
I totally understand the club trying to ramp up the atmosphere, but I don't think there is any need to. The place will be rocking anyway, my concern is the hype comes back to bite us on the arse.
I totally understand the club trying to ramp up the atmosphere, but I don't think there is any need to. The place will be rocking anyway, my concern is the hype comes back to bite us on the arse.
I think that’s just our own nervousness in desperately not wanting to fail. Ultimately, fans can build up atmosphere, but cards being held up, flags being passed round and songs being sung will have zero impact on what happens on the pitch.
Lets make it a great atmosphere and hope the players perform and we get some luck.
I totally understand the club trying to ramp up the atmosphere, but I don't think there is any need to. The place will be rocking anyway, my concern is the hype comes back to bite us on the arse.
Ultimately, fans can build up atmosphere, but cards being held up, flags being passed round and songs being sung will have zero impact on what happens on the pitch.
On a serious note. A study of players thoughts on that would be interesting. Could younger players be a bit overwhelmed and feel the pressure not to make a mistake affects their game?
I totally understand the club trying to ramp up the atmosphere, but I don't think there is any need to. The place will be rocking anyway, my concern is the hype comes back to bite us on the arse.
Ultimately, fans can build up atmosphere, but cards being held up, flags being passed round and songs being sung will have zero impact on what happens on the pitch.
On a serious note. A study of players thoughts on that would be interesting. Could younger players be a bit overwhelmed and feel the pressure not to make a mistake affects their game?
Surely even our youngsters already know how huge this game is?
Will the flags and cards bring a smile to the players faces? Hopefully. Will the cards and flags negatively affect them? Very doubtful to my mind.
I totally understand the club trying to ramp up the atmosphere, but I don't think there is any need to. The place will be rocking anyway, my concern is the hype comes back to bite us on the arse.
Ultimately, fans can build up atmosphere, but cards being held up, flags being passed round and songs being sung will have zero impact on what happens on the pitch.
On a serious note. A study of players thoughts on that would be interesting. Could younger players be a bit overwhelmed and feel the pressure not to make a mistake affects their game?
Surely even our youngsters already know how huge this game is?
Will the flags and cards bring a smile to the players faces? Hopefully. Will the cards and flags negatively affect them? Very doubtful to my mind.
Plus I’m pretty sure TC and Karoy have said they were there for the Doncaster game so hopefully enjoyed the big match atmosphere and are looking forward to playing in it
I totally understand the club trying to ramp up the atmosphere, but I don't think there is any need to. The place will be rocking anyway, my concern is the hype comes back to bite us on the arse.
I think that’s just our own nervousness in desperately not wanting to fail. Ultimately, fans can build up atmosphere, but cards being held up, flags being passed round and songs being sung will have zero impact on what happens on the pitch.
Lets make it a great atmosphere and hope the players perform and we get some luck.
I find it a bit cringe and Palacesey if I am honest mate
Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don’t – But Tonight, We Do!
Let’s face it — Charlton can’t win sometimes. Pull their finger out and try to make a big night even bigger? Cue the moans. Do nothing and treat it like a midweek match in February? Cue more moans. But credit where it’s due — the club have clearly pulled out the stops to make tonight one to remember. So, I’m saying it now: thank you, Charlton!
This is the most important game we’ve had in six long years. That’s six years of mid-table mediocrity, managerial swaps, and wondering if the Bovril machine will be working. So let’s give the club some applause for trying to create a cracking atmosphere. The Covered End Red Wall, the TIFOs in the West and East stands, the 1987 heroes parade — it’s all part of turning up the volume and making it feel like a proper event.
Let’s be honest, none of this is going to stop the fans singing their hearts out. If anything, it’ll give us a proper boost before kick-off. What’s the issue? Yes, it’s still “just a match” — but it’s also a semi final with a Wembley Final as the prize . The intentions are genuine, the execution isn't half-bad, and yes, they got their act together slightly late (par for the course), but it’s all positive. Even giving 1,000 seats to the Jimmy Seed stand for our lot and that cracking drummer video — it's all adding to the buzz.
You just know that the EFL and Sky are quietly rooting for a Charlton v Orient final — a proper London showcase, a guaranteed large crowd, a potential Wembley classic. Only a few thousand Wycombe fans (and maybe a nervous ticketing department) will be against it.
So bring the noise, bring the good vibes — and most of all, bring it home. COYA’s!
Well said TRA 💯 %,let’s do as the Public Enemy tell us too,let’s…
”Bring The Noise”….❤️🤍
Whatever some of our differences are,park it for now…let’s just fcuking enjoy tonight as one with all our fellow Addicks…”bring it on” wherever ya coming from near or far & however ya travelling,let’s hope all have safe journeys to our home of football in what could be a magical night under the floodlights of The Valley…🤗
Forget your normal grumble Get ready to shout and rumble We need Wycombe to tumble It's hard to stay calm and humble When we want Norris to fumble So the Wanderers crumble And Charlton have a trundle
To the majestic promised land Where you can see a big band Witness Wembley sights first-hand Charlton can be proud and grand This is Nathan's hard work plan
To lift the League one Play-off cup While the fans have a booze-up
Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don’t – But Tonight, We Do!
Let’s face it — Charlton can’t win sometimes. Pull their finger out and try to make a big night even bigger? Cue the moans. Do nothing and treat it like a midweek match in February? Cue more moans. But credit where it’s due — the club have clearly pulled out the stops to make tonight one to remember. So, I’m saying it now: thank you, Charlton!
This is the most important game we’ve had in six long years. That’s six years of mid-table mediocrity, managerial swaps, and wondering if the Bovril machine will be working. So let’s give the club some applause for trying to create a cracking atmosphere. The Covered End Red Wall, the TIFOs in the West and East stands, the 1987 heroes parade — it’s all part of turning up the volume and making it feel like a proper event.
Let’s be honest, none of this is going to stop the fans singing their hearts out. If anything, it’ll give us a proper boost before kick-off. What’s the issue? Yes, it’s still “just a match” — but it’s also a semi final with a Wembley Final as the prize . The intentions are genuine, the execution isn't half-bad, and yes, they got their act together slightly late (par for the course), but it’s all positive. Even giving 1,000 seats to the Jimmy Seed stand for our lot and that cracking drummer video — it's all adding to the buzz.
You just know that the EFL and Sky are quietly rooting for a Charlton v Orient final — a proper London showcase, a guaranteed large crowd, a potential Wembley classic. Only a few thousand Wycombe fans (and maybe a nervous ticketing department) will be against it.
So bring the noise, bring the good vibes — and most of all, bring it home. COYA’s!
I totally understand the club trying to ramp up the atmosphere, but I don't think there is any need to. The place will be rocking anyway, my concern is the hype comes back to bite us on the arse.
I think that’s just our own nervousness in desperately not wanting to fail. Ultimately, fans can build up atmosphere, but cards being held up, flags being passed round and songs being sung will have zero impact on what happens on the pitch.
Lets make it a great atmosphere and hope the players perform and we get some luck.
I find it a bit cringe and Palacesey if I am honest mate
I don’t think it’s Palacesey, it’s just the road modern day football support is going down. This is Sunderland, Bristol City and Sheffield United this weekend, I wouldn’t class any of those as being modern cringey clubs
It don’t mean anything to me but my teen is buzzing about it and if it adds to the atmosphere and gets the young uns excited then I can live with it!
Forget your normal grumble Get ready to shout and rumble We need Wycombe to tumble It's hard to stay calm and humble When we want Norris to fumble So the Wanderers crumble And Charlton have a trundle
To the majestic promised land Where you can see a big band Witness Wembley sights first-hand Charlton can be proud and grand This is Nathan's hard work plan
To lift the League one Play-off cup While the fans have a booze-up
Damn, it all makes sense now, Wycombe fans are bringing balloons so Charlton counter that with pieces of card. This could get seriously hostile….
Dangerous, wish I knew the club was going to allow this as i have already bought tickets for my kids but not sure I feel comfortable bringing them in to such a cauldron of hostility and intimidation.
I totally understand the club trying to ramp up the atmosphere, but I don't think there is any need to. The place will be rocking anyway, my concern is the hype comes back to bite us on the arse.
Ultimately, fans can build up atmosphere, but cards being held up, flags being passed round and songs being sung will have zero impact on what happens on the pitch.
On a serious note. A study of players thoughts on that would be interesting. Could younger players be a bit overwhelmed and feel the pressure not to make a mistake affects their game?
I think fans can make an impact on games. But I think the level of impact goes up or down depending on standard.
For example, the likes of Millwall, Leeds, Birmingham City can make very intimidating atmospheres for play-off and big cup and league games that do help. Millwall's record in London derbies at home and in the FA Cup cup against higher placed teams speaks for itself. They also always seem to beat the likes of Leeds and Burnley (whoever is doing well in the Championship) at home in the league. But, I don't think it would make much difference against the top, top players. The top players love to play in those atmospheres and thrive on shutting those crowds up. Inter Milan, Real Madrid etc etc wouldn't crumble at The Den or Elland Road on a Friday night. They'd love it and play to it.
We can make a loud and proud atmosphere, as opposed to intimidating imo. But that can also go one of two ways. You either have a team that respond to it, such as we had under Bowyer, or one that feels the pressure and crumbles. That is because at the end of the day, they are third tier footballers. Some will have the right mentality, others will not. Take Small, this is the kind of occasion where he needs to show that he thrives under pressure and can therefore play at a higher level. We haven't had a big, do or die match at The Valley with these players. People can go on about playing in front of 20,000 v Burton on a sunny afternoon in a dead rubber all they like, it is not the same. This feels a huge game, because it is. The likes of Liverpool would thrive on that, as they are elite players. But who knows with this group.
It's the same for Wycombe. They have third tier players too. They may feel the pressure. Or they may tell themselves all the pressure is on Charlton and actually enjoy playing the role of pantomime villains. I think if we score early, they will crumble. But I also think if it remains tight, we will feel the weight of expectation more and Wycombe will grow into it and enjoy it.
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Damned If You Do, Damned If You Don’t – But Tonight, We Do!
Let’s face it — Charlton can’t win sometimes. Pull their finger out and try to make a big night even bigger? Cue the moans. Do nothing and treat it like a midweek match in February? Cue more moans. But credit where it’s due — the club have clearly pulled out the stops to make tonight one to remember. So, I’m saying it now: thank you, Charlton!
This is the most important game we’ve had in six long years. That’s six years of mid-table mediocrity, managerial swaps, and wondering if the Bovril machine will be working. So let’s give the club some applause for trying to create a cracking atmosphere. The Covered End Red Wall, the TIFOs in the West and East stands, the 1987 heroes parade — it’s all part of turning up the volume and making it feel like a proper event.
Let’s be honest, none of this is going to stop the fans singing their hearts out. If anything, it’ll give us a proper boost before kick-off. What’s the issue? Yes, it’s still “just a match” — but it’s also a semi final with a Wembley Final as the prize . The intentions are genuine, the execution isn't half-bad, and yes, they got their act together slightly late (par for the course), but it’s all positive. Even giving 1,000 seats to the Jimmy Seed stand for our lot and that cracking drummer video — it's all adding to the buzz.
You just know that the EFL and Sky are quietly rooting for a Charlton v Orient final — a proper London showcase, a guaranteed large crowd, a potential Wembley classic. Only a few thousand Wycombe fans (and maybe a nervous ticketing department) will be against it.
So bring the noise, bring the good vibes — and most of all, bring it home. COYA’s!
In England, throwing objects onto the pitch at a football match is illegal and taken very seriously. Here are the key legal and disciplinary aspects:
Criminal Law
Under the Football (Offences) Act 1991, it is a criminal offence to:
Three to ten years? Yes, Golfie, do it!
Well said Bob 👏🏼
Unfortunately at Charlton in 2025, the Victor Ludorum winner in 1969 😄 has turned into Victor Meldrew 😞
Lets make it a great atmosphere and hope
the players perform and we get some luck.
I find it a bit cringe and Palacesey if I am honest mate
”Bring The Noise”….❤️🤍
Whatever some of our differences are,park it for now…let’s just fcuking enjoy tonight as one with all our fellow Addicks…”bring it on” wherever ya coming from near or far & however ya travelling,let’s hope all have safe journeys to our home of football in what could be a magical night under the floodlights of The Valley…🤗
NJ’s ❤️🤍 Army…🙏🏻🤞🏻
Get ready to shout and rumble
We need Wycombe to tumble
It's hard to stay calm and humble
When we want Norris to fumble
So the Wanderers crumble
And Charlton have a trundle
To the majestic promised land
Where you can see a big band
Witness Wembley sights first-hand
Charlton can be proud and grand
This is Nathan's hard work plan
To lift the League one Play-off cup
While the fans have a booze-up
For example, the likes of Millwall, Leeds, Birmingham City can make very intimidating atmospheres for play-off and big cup and league games that do help. Millwall's record in London derbies at home and in the FA Cup cup against higher placed teams speaks for itself. They also always seem to beat the likes of Leeds and Burnley (whoever is doing well in the Championship) at home in the league. But, I don't think it would make much difference against the top, top players. The top players love to play in those atmospheres and thrive on shutting those crowds up. Inter Milan, Real Madrid etc etc wouldn't crumble at The Den or Elland Road on a Friday night. They'd love it and play to it.
We can make a loud and proud atmosphere, as opposed to intimidating imo. But that can also go one of two ways. You either have a team that respond to it, such as we had under Bowyer, or one that feels the pressure and crumbles. That is because at the end of the day, they are third tier footballers. Some will have the right mentality, others will not. Take Small, this is the kind of occasion where he needs to show that he thrives under pressure and can therefore play at a higher level. We haven't had a big, do or die match at The Valley with these players. People can go on about playing in front of 20,000 v Burton on a sunny afternoon in a dead rubber all they like, it is not the same. This feels a huge game, because it is. The likes of Liverpool would thrive on that, as they are elite players. But who knows with this group.
It's the same for Wycombe. They have third tier players too. They may feel the pressure. Or they may tell themselves all the pressure is on Charlton and actually enjoy playing the role of pantomime villains. I think if we score early, they will crumble. But I also think if it remains tight, we will feel the weight of expectation more and Wycombe will grow into it and enjoy it.
What a fun evening ahead!!