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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    fenaddick said:
    Bouzanis will also be out of contract but doesn’t really count 
    Presumably Hylton too.
    He got a coaching contract 
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 992
    All mediocre scorers on Statbank. Doc, the skipper, was dropped for a few matches because he was so crap. Berry our only 10 until January. Our main weakness has been in midfield. Even Coventry with his backpasses was poor until Xmas, but we have never controlled games despite the experience of LB and GD.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    We need to follow the Sunderland model and sign young players with potential.

    Docherty, Berry, Hylton, Potts and Campbell have been underwhelming. All likely on high salaries. All oldies. Surely NJ has run out of ex-Luton pals.

    Although I'd love to sign Thelo Aasgard, can't imagine relegation is doing much for Hatter's financials on £12k crowds, likely lower in L1.
    Really Doc and Berry have been excellent for different reasons .. and with Coventry formed a very good mid three and one of the reasons for our good run … 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    We need to follow the Sunderland model and sign young players with potential.

    Docherty, Berry, Hylton, Potts and Campbell have been underwhelming. All likely on high salaries. All oldies. Surely NJ has run out of ex-Luton pals.

    Although I'd love to sign Thelo Aasgard, can't imagine relegation is doing much for Hatter's financials on £12k crowds.
    Well as Potts left 4 months ago was an injury reclamation and played 1 game on what possible basis do you suppose he was expensive?

    A. Campbell was a late loan where Luton paid most of his salary and he too left 4 months ago.

    Hylton was a part time player coach. Who else did you have in mind for 7th choice striker?

    Berry and Docherty contributed 40% of the league goals & assists from midfield ( I include Small & Edwards) That sounds like money well spent. Who did you have in mind who is cheaper.?


    Only 4 paragraphs? Grapevine must still be battered from celebrating our win!
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,224
    All mediocre scorers on Statbank. Doc, the skipper, was dropped for a few matches because he was so crap. Berry our only 10 until January. Our main weakness has been in midfield. Even Coventry with his backpasses was poor until Xmas, but we have never controlled games despite the experience of LB and GD.
    We have controlled many games this season. 

    In fact I can't remember the last season where we've been so comfortable in so many league games. 

    The superb defence with record clean sheets has helped that, and they have been able to build that superb defence by having a huge amount of trust in the midfield in front of them. 
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 377
    All mediocre scorers on Statbank. Doc, the skipper, was dropped for a few matches because he was so crap. Berry our only 10 until January. Our main weakness has been in midfield. Even Coventry with his backpasses was poor until Xmas, but we have never controlled games despite the experience of LB and GD.
    And Berry has scored as many league goals as TC...

    So why hasn't he got a song?
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    edited May 16
    What we don't see is how the players are away from The Valley. SCP also recruited on personalities as well as ability. NJ has a similar methodology, the characters are just as important as the overall skill level. This is why he suits a certain club setup. Perhaps Docherty isn't the best talent in his position, but overall he has captained us to the playoff final and the manager trusts him.
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    SteveACS said:
    All mediocre scorers on Statbank. Doc, the skipper, was dropped for a few matches because he was so crap. Berry our only 10 until January. Our main weakness has been in midfield. Even Coventry with his backpasses was poor until Xmas, but we have never controlled games despite the experience of LB and GD.
    And Berry has scored as many league goals as TC...

    So why hasn't he got a song?

    If they get us to the Championship , I'll write every one of them a song.
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 992
    We need to follow the Sunderland model and sign young players with potential.

    Docherty, Berry, Hylton, Potts and Campbell have been underwhelming. All likely on high salaries. All oldies. Surely NJ has run out of ex-Luton pals.

    Although I'd love to sign Thelo Aasgard, can't imagine relegation is doing much for Hatter's financials on £12k crowds.
    Well as Potts left 4 months ago was an injury reclamation and played 1 game on what possible basis do you suppose he was expensive?

    A. Campbell was a late loan where Luton paid most of his salary and he too left 4 months ago.

    Hylton was a part time player coach. Who else did you have in mind for 7th choice striker?

    Berry and Docherty contributed 40% of the league goals & assists from midfield ( I include Small & Edwards) That sounds like money well spent. Who did you have in mind who is cheaper.?


    Grapevine, I always enjoy your posts, but as an accountant I think your maths needs some work. My research says 67 goals, 38 assists as a team. Berry has 7 & 5, Doc 4 & 2 so 18. 

    We scored 67 and 38 assists, so 105.

    18 into 105 is just over 17% and you'd expect midfielders to be at the top of these stats, not 40%.

    So yes I think they were below par signings and expensive along with the others you've dismissed.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,269
    Who is the fourth senior player out of contract? Small, Chuks, Watson, ???
    Henry?
    I'm not for sale


    Oh, you mean Aaron

    fenaddick said:
    Bouzanis will also be out of contract but doesn’t really count 
    Presumably Hylton too.
    Isn't he a coach now
    Have you seen the size of him ?More like a double decker bus

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,299
    Dijksteel released by Middlesbrough. If we go up I think that would be a great move for us to make. Option for wing back and think Ramsay’s role would really suit him too 
  • Addickinedi
    Addickinedi Posts: 149
    Hoping we might go for Caleb Taylor, young, quick and great potential 
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 992
    Hoping we might go for Caleb Taylor, young, quick and great potential 
    3 career goals?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,237
    Hoping we might go for Caleb Taylor, young, quick and great potential 
    Was very good for Cheltenham v us two years ago.

    Good prospect and only 22.
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 1,482
    Hoping we might go for Caleb Taylor, young, quick and great potential 
    3 career goals?
    Are you clinically insane?
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,362
    edited May 16
    If we go up, I just want us to mop up all the best league 1 players who won't cost a fortune in wages. 

    The likes of Davis Keillor-Dunn, Ethan Galbraith, Harvey Knibbs, Ethan Pye, etc.

    Players probably ready to make the step up and if we do come down again, have the ability to turn it around quickly. 

    Survival will be the only objective next season if we go up, and I'd be ecstatic with that and a promising squad.

    Could even look at league 2. Jack Rudoni is class and made the jump from Wimbledon to Huddersfield. There will be players in League 2 better than some of our current squad.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,003
    Hoping we might go for Caleb Taylor, young, quick and great potential 
    Would be quite refreshing to see the next generation (Z. Mitchell, potentially C. Taylor) starting to be slowly built up and eased in over the next season or two. Gillesphey and L. Jones are both 29, certainly not past it but unlikely to reach new physical peaks any more.
    If we can have the next generation training with them and learning from them now so they are ready to step up in due course.
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,523
    Hoping we might go for Caleb Taylor, young, quick and great potential 
    Looks a good player, not sure West Brom would let him go mind. Brad Hills (on loan from Norwich to Stockport) also looked a good centre back.


  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,231
    Would love to see us beat orient and then nick Charlie Kelman

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  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,523
    CAFCsayer said:
    Would love to see us beat orient and then nick Charlie Kelman
    He's on loan from QPR
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    CAFCsayer said:
    Would love to see us beat orient and then nick Charlie Kelman
    He’s a QPR player. 
  • Grapevine49
    Grapevine49 Posts: 997
    Gisappointed, in the face of a play off final, you are of course entitled to argue to the periphery of the core deliverables this very small senior squad has contributed to this season. None of Potts, A. Campbell or Hylton have ever been primarily fiscally or operationally relevant to this core.

    THOSE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

    In the matter of Berry & Docherty I politely suggest you reread my post concerning MIDFIELD contributors. I regard your position as entirely disrespectful of two of only 14 players who have over the past 32 games delivered a quite exceptional growth through 2025. That you are unable to put such growth in the context of the overall squad size, nature of the competition and the playing modus operandi is your problem …..not mine.

    Berry started 33 EFL League related games - 21 Wins - 7 Draws - 5 Losses - 2.1pts ppg

    Docherty on being played in box to box role - 27 EFL League related games all as captain 17 wins 6 Draws - 4 Losses - 2.1pts ppg.

    Playing stats source Transfermarkt.

    Average across 46 League games is 96pts and 2nd place.

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,455
    edited May 16
    If we go up, I just want us to mop up all the best league 1 players who won't cost a fortune in wages. 

    The likes of Davis Keillor-Dunn, Ethan Galbraith, Harvey Knibbs, Ethan Pye, etc.

    Players probably ready to make the step up and if we do come down again, have the ability to turn it around quickly. 

    Survival will be the only objective next season if we go up, and I'd be ecstatic with that and a promising squad.

    Could even look at league 2. Jack Rudoni is class and made the jump from Wimbledon to Huddersfield. There will be players in League 2 better than some of our current squad.
    Is Galbraith not a bit of a like for like with Coventry?

    If Keillor-Dunn is out of reach, I'd like Donley on loan, but Jones seemingly vetoed that loan happening last summer.

    Agree with your strategy though, especially if we can find a few more Kayne Ramsay's hidden around.

    Maybe even look to Ireland / Wales / Scotland for the next Josh Edwards as well
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,063
    edited May 16
    Orient have been playing Galbraith at RWB mainly. But by trade normally yes he'd compete with Coventry. 
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    edited May 16
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,237
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Hoping we might go for Caleb Taylor, young, quick and great potential 
    3 career goals?
    Are you clinically insane?
    No, just a troll
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,787
    MarcusH26 said:
    Orient have been playing Galbraith at RWB mainly. But by trade normally yes he'd compete with Coventry. 
    Should we get to the Championship, I wouldn't be surprised if Jones wanted to start with a double pivot 4-2-3-1. He already showed at the beginning of this season that his number #1 priority when starting at a new club/level is to not concede goals.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,063
    MarcusH26 said:
    Orient have been playing Galbraith at RWB mainly. But by trade normally yes he'd compete with Coventry. 
    Should we get to the Championship, I wouldn't be surprised if Jones wanted to start with a double pivot 4-2-3-1. He already showed at the beginning of this season that his number #1 priority when starting at a new club/level is to not concede goals.

    This would make a lot of sense but would need quite heavy recruitment I would think to make it work - I'll just write this out as a possible 4231 lineup (striker is a coin toss)

    New GK

    Ramsay Jones Gilly Edwards 

     Coventry New CDM 

    TC New 10 Small

    Godden/Leaburn 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,886
    SteveACS said:
    All mediocre scorers on Statbank. Doc, the skipper, was dropped for a few matches because he was so crap. Berry our only 10 until January. Our main weakness has been in midfield. Even Coventry with his backpasses was poor until Xmas, but we have never controlled games despite the experience of LB and GD.
    And Berry has scored as many league goals as TC...

    So why hasn't he got a song?
    Luke Berry, Luke Berry. He goes by the name of Luke Berry...