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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,662
    edited May 18
    If it’s done anything, it’s united us & the  spanners in our hatred of them.
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,023
    Genuinely gutted about it. Those pricks have seen something we’ll almost certainly never see in our lives. No matter what happens now, they’ve got their trophy. I’d rather win an FA Cup and get relegated than be mid table every season, so they’re sorted either way. 
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    Smithy said:
    Genuinely gutted about it. Those pricks have seen something we’ll almost certainly never see in our lives. No matter what happens now, they’ve got their trophy. I’d rather win an FA Cup and get relegated than be mid table every season, so they’re sorted either way. 

    Yeh, the unfortunate reality. I feel a bit sick.

    If it was going to be a premier league London club winning it, why can't it have just been a Fulham, West ham, Brentford etc.

    A painful reality we won't be able to distance ourselves from.

    Palace are now a bigger club and will continue growing/expanding.


  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    Saw a bloke walking around Danson Park this morning with a Palace shirt on which is a first.  He looked like a knob 
  • andipandi
    andipandi Posts: 1,190
    edited May 18
    I'm not bothered, they got to the final, they won the thing. That's what all clubs, footballers, managers and fans aspire to do, win something, hopefully something big, like the FA Cup. I never got any grief yesterday, walked into one of my locals, wearing my colours, a fair few Palace, no probs, before or during. One 60plus Man City supporter, who was an entitled twat.  Should've been at least a yellow card and free kick for the Henderson handball, immediately acknowledged by the Palace lot, it's not their fault that the match officials and VAR were, and often are wank.  
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    That win, with the management / team they have right now is very bad.  It would have been broken up this summer but now is likely to stay together as they have European football.  Glasner is an excellent manager who I would back to build them over the summer.
    I have long said there is space in SE London for a large club, it is an obvious hole.  Whilst Duchatelet was fucking ours, they were building.
    Those Charlton fans who don't care, think about our academy staff as they try to persuade the next Gomez etc to join us... Each time the stripey pricks stay in the PL or show this kind of success, our lots job gets even harder.
    Bollocks.
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,959
    Whatever the thoughts on Palace,I will treasure those scenes at the end of sky blue shirts wet with tears,have waited so long for this arrogant band of self entitled pricks to finish a season with nothing,long may it continue,they are now dads army,they have no great players any more.Giving Haarland a 10 year contract at 25m a year while under investigation just stinks of "you cant touch us",well we will see.
  • West2003
    West2003 Posts: 386
    They may have won yesterday but they haven’t almost got into Europe via the UEFA Fair Play league. We’ll always have that.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    clb74 said:
    Couldn't sleep last night after their win.
    The only way out this darkness is
     
    Back to back promotions followed by winning the Premier league or

    Back to back promotions,  qualify for champions league and win that the next season. 


    Scrap that there's no way out.
    Wherever I choose to go today it will be in my face.
    Could possibly cope with that , but also need to get through the next months with them bring in Europe.
    Just been sent the projected group pots for Europa league , I feel sick.
    I do feel our club could've set up a few dedicated helplines for those of us struggling at this time.
    Need promotions big time next Sunday.

  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,224
    Seems to be a lot of comparisons between how well they're doing and how badly we've done for a long time now which I do get but the two things aren't the same it's simply co-incidence these things have run parallel to each other.

    Had we stayed for longer in the Prem when we got relegated or bounced about like Burnley or even stayed the duration in the Prem since 2007 there's no guarantees we would ever have won a trophy and/or qualified for Europe even with the club being run well.

    Them winning the cup is just one of those things it's football, but doesn't mean it happened because we've had a bad time of it for a long time. I would much rather focus on our club getting itself back to where it should be and seeing how far we can go rather than worry about them. The one thing to take away from yesterday is there cup win will always be remembered about the VAR incident. At least our FA Cup win albeit in black and white isn't tarnished with controversy.

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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,170
    The best footballing period in their history running parallel with our worst makes it all sooooo much worse and add in the scum (only club in south east London without an FA Cup ) in their best footballing period ever and you have the biggest shit show on earth .
    weve all got a hard on for a game with fucking orient , they’ve just gone and beaten Man City won the FA Cup , have Liverpool next week and are going on a European tour with a load more attractive fixtures 
    what A load of Cnut 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,736
    Still feel sick about it. Them getting into Europe is the worst thing that could happen. The only thing we had over them was a major trophy and now we can't even gloat about that. Now they'll be plastered all over our screens Thursday nights while European giants roll into their shit heap of a ground.

    Our downfall left the gate open for those freaks to scoop up generations of kids from local areas who could have come to The Valley to watch us as the South London club in the top flight. Ian Dowie and Richard Murray have blood on their hands. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    The great thing about Charlton fans are they are so level headed as demonstrated on CL ?

    They have 7 chips on one shoulder about Palace and 7 chips on the other shoulder about Millwall.

    A week before a 50/50 match in getting Charlton Athletic back to their home land of the Championship and the 2nd tier, they are focused on Palace who left Charlton behind long ago. The League cup game when we lost 4-1 with our 1st team against their reserves was when we waved goodbye in their tatty old stadium. The last close game was the 2-1 lost when Glenn Murray scored twice after Ben Hamer's slip. 
    I took that loss badly as 1-0 up at HT and JJ should have buried his header to go 2 up 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Palace have a hybrid fan base with more ethnic groups than I see at Charlton. I'm not talking about ground hoppers or Football tourists. Many of their supporters live in Surrey but Thornton heath is very diverse as well as West Croydon where English isn't spoken very often.

    Because of my Bermondsey roots I suffered more if we lost to Millwall because in many of those games we were higher in the table FFS.

    Tribal rivalry is an ancient feral state and Charlton should probably focus on Millwall our nearest rival, IF and when we reached the promised land of the 2nd tier as opposed to a Premier team, with an FA cup win and European football next season.

    Jealousy eats you up as I know with my hatred of Chelsea ! 😤
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Ffs.
    Community shield game aswell
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,592
    Whatever the thoughts on Palace,I will treasure those scenes at the end of sky blue shirts wet with tears,have waited so long for this arrogant band of self entitled pricks to finish a season with nothing,long may it continue,they are now dads army,they have no great players any more.Giving Haarland a 10 year contract at 25m a year while under investigation just stinks of "you cant touch us",well we will see.
    Lets see how many likes that gets.
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    The great thing about Charlton fans are they are so level headed as demonstrated on CL ?

    They have 7 chips on one shoulder about Palace and 7 chips on the other shoulder about Millwall.

    A week before a 50/50 match in getting Charlton Athletic back to their home land of the Championship and the 2nd tier, they are focused on Palace who left Charlton behind long ago. The League cup game when we lost 4-1 with our 1st team against their reserves was when we waved goodbye in their tatty old stadium. The last close game was the 2-1 lost when Glenn Murray scored twice after Ben Hamer's slip. 
    I took that loss badly as 1-0 up at HT and JJ should have buried his header to go 2 up 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Palace have a hybrid fan base with more ethnic groups than I see at Charlton. I'm not talking about ground hoppers or Football tourists. Many of their supporters live in Surrey but Thornton heath is very diverse as well as West Croydon where English isn't spoken very often.

    Because of my Bermondsey roots I suffered more if we lost to Millwall because in many of those games we were higher in the table FFS.

    Tribal rivalry is an ancient feral state and Charlton should probably focus on Millwall our nearest rival, IF and when we reached the promised land of the 2nd tier as opposed to a Premier team, with an FA cup win and European football next season.

    Jealousy eats you up as I know with my hatred of Chelsea ! 😤
    Perhaps this is the time to draw a line under the Palace rivalry. 

    I will never consider Croydon or Bromley as proper SE London. They’ve gone their derby with Brighton now. They’re miles away both literally and metaphorically. 

    Charlton v Millwall is the one. Both fanbases live with or amongst each other. 

    Perhaps I am traumatised, but I just want to tell myself that Palace winning the cup is as significant for me as Fulham or Wimbledon winning it. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    That result really took the edge off my weekend. Very happy when I booked playoff final tickets, but brought back down to earth a couple of hours later.
    Not happy 🙁
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited May 18
    The great thing about Charlton fans are they are so level headed as demonstrated on CL ?

    They have 7 chips on one shoulder about Palace and 7 chips on the other shoulder about Millwall.

    A week before a 50/50 match in getting Charlton Athletic back to their home land of the Championship and the 2nd tier, they are focused on Palace who left Charlton behind long ago. The League cup game when we lost 4-1 with our 1st team against their reserves was when we waved goodbye in their tatty old stadium. The last close game was the 2-1 lost when Glenn Murray scored twice after Ben Hamer's slip. 
    I took that loss badly as 1-0 up at HT and JJ should have buried his header to go 2 up 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Palace have a hybrid fan base with more ethnic groups than I see at Charlton. I'm not talking about ground hoppers or Football tourists. Many of their supporters live in Surrey but Thornton heath is very diverse as well as West Croydon where English isn't spoken very often.

    Because of my Bermondsey roots I suffered more if we lost to Millwall because in many of those games we were higher in the table FFS.

    Tribal rivalry is an ancient feral state and Charlton should probably focus on Millwall our nearest rival, IF and when we reached the promised land of the 2nd tier as opposed to a Premier team, with an FA cup win and European football next season.

    Jealousy eats you up as I know with my hatred of Chelsea ! 😤
    Sam, it’s not just about tribalism. I have friends who decided to become palace fans two or three years ago. They’ve always been very patronising about Charlton, and pretend to not even know which league we’re in. 
    The one thing I’ve had to counter their jibes was the fact that we’d actually won a major trophy and they hadn’t. Of course It should be water off a duck’s back, I know, but it does rile me up. They have no understanding of the history of the game. To them it’s all about the Premier League. I guarantee if palace were relegated they’d soon lose interest, and probably so would many others. Of course the same happened to us to an extent, but the fact that we can draw big crowds just because we’re in an around the playoffs gives you hope. 
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    edited May 18
    JamesSeed said:
    The great thing about Charlton fans are they are so level headed as demonstrated on CL ?

    They have 7 chips on one shoulder about Palace and 7 chips on the other shoulder about Millwall.

    A week before a 50/50 match in getting Charlton Athletic back to their home land of the Championship and the 2nd tier, they are focused on Palace who left Charlton behind long ago. The League cup game when we lost 4-1 with our 1st team against their reserves was when we waved goodbye in their tatty old stadium. The last close game was the 2-1 lost when Glenn Murray scored twice after Ben Hamer's slip. 
    I took that loss badly as 1-0 up at HT and JJ should have buried his header to go 2 up 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Palace have a hybrid fan base with more ethnic groups than I see at Charlton. I'm not talking about ground hoppers or Football tourists. Many of their supporters live in Surrey but Thornton heath is very diverse as well as West Croydon where English isn't spoken very often.

    Because of my Bermondsey roots I suffered more if we lost to Millwall because in many of those games we were higher in the table FFS.

    Tribal rivalry is an ancient feral state and Charlton should probably focus on Millwall our nearest rival, IF and when we reached the promised land of the 2nd tier as opposed to a Premier team, with an FA cup win and European football next season.

    Jealousy eats you up as I know with my hatred of Chelsea ! 😤
    Sam, it’s not just about tribalism. I have friends who decided to become palace fans two or three years ago. They’ve always been very patronising about Charlton, and pretend to not even know which league we’re in. 
    The one thing I’ve had to counter their jibes was the fact that we’d actually won a major trophy and they hadn’t. Of course It should be water off a duck’s back, I know, but it does rile me up. They have no understanding of the history of the game. To them it’s all about the Premier League. I guarantee if palace were relegated they’d soon lose interest. 
    Your friends sound like c*#ts on a number of levels, tbf. 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,765
    I'm not going to let my weekend be spoilt because a football team, that has nothing to do with me, has won the FA Cup. Charlton have reached the play off final, rejoice in that and don't let the fact that another club has won a cup dampen your spirit.

     The idea that because you support a certain football team you must hate another seems weird to me. I have no reason to hate Palace or Millwall, when both play in a different league. 

    The magic of the FA Cup is that every so often, a story is created when an underdog beats one of the giants. 

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,053
    JamesSeed said:
    The great thing about Charlton fans are they are so level headed as demonstrated on CL ?

    They have 7 chips on one shoulder about Palace and 7 chips on the other shoulder about Millwall.

    A week before a 50/50 match in getting Charlton Athletic back to their home land of the Championship and the 2nd tier, they are focused on Palace who left Charlton behind long ago. The League cup game when we lost 4-1 with our 1st team against their reserves was when we waved goodbye in their tatty old stadium. The last close game was the 2-1 lost when Glenn Murray scored twice after Ben Hamer's slip. 
    I took that loss badly as 1-0 up at HT and JJ should have buried his header to go 2 up 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Palace have a hybrid fan base with more ethnic groups than I see at Charlton. I'm not talking about ground hoppers or Football tourists. Many of their supporters live in Surrey but Thornton heath is very diverse as well as West Croydon where English isn't spoken very often.

    Because of my Bermondsey roots I suffered more if we lost to Millwall because in many of those games we were higher in the table FFS.

    Tribal rivalry is an ancient feral state and Charlton should probably focus on Millwall our nearest rival, IF and when we reached the promised land of the 2nd tier as opposed to a Premier team, with an FA cup win and European football next season.

    Jealousy eats you up as I know with my hatred of Chelsea ! 😤
    Sam, it’s not just about tribalism. I have friends who decided to become palace fans two or three years ago. They’ve always been very patronising about Charlton, and pretend to not even know which league we’re in. 
    The one thing I’ve had to counter their jibes was the fact that we’d actually won a major trophy and they hadn’t. Of course It should be water off a duck’s back, I know, but it does rile me up. They have no understanding of the history of the game. To them it’s all about the Premier League. I guarantee if palace were relegated they’d soon lose interest. 
    Christ, with friends like that…
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,053
    Smithy said:
    Genuinely gutted about it. Those pricks have seen something we’ll almost certainly never see in our lives. No matter what happens now, they’ve got their trophy. I’d rather win an FA Cup and get relegated than be mid table every season, so they’re sorted either way. 
    I know I shouldn’t, but honestly this is how I feel too. 
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,212
    I had to put up with those c8nts on the tube. I did give a stare when they were singing Championes. Citeh were a disgrace with their fannying around on the wings when there had players in the box. Stayed in the ground after the match for a drink with the Citeh fans who were a bit bemused when I belted out Valley Floyd Road!
    Anyway, the purpose of going to the FA cup final was to do a recce on where to sit next Sunday. 
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    .This has proper floored me.
    My son is trying to be philosophical about it, "oh well, shit happens, let's just focus on next week. Win that and get behind the rebuild with Nathan"
    I get it and hopefully he will be around to see the football cycle swing back in our favour.
    How long will it take to get where they are. 20 years? I'll be dead (90%), senile (9%), unable physically to go to games (1%)
    They are the current FA Cup winners, a trophy we won in the middle ages playing in pantaloons and ruffs.
    Not only that, but they are set up now to truly become "the Arsenal of SE London". Isn't that what Noades said?
    Allison, Venables, gobby flashboy arrogance, Noades, "team of the 80s", Barcelona's kit, Benfica's nickname, "gave you a home when you were bankrupt".
    What a crock of shit
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,882
    I'm not going to let my weekend be spoilt because a football team, that has nothing to do with me, has won the FA Cup. Charlton have reached the play off final, rejoice in that and don't let the fact that another club has won a cup dampen your spirit.

     The idea that because you support a certain football team you must hate another seems weird to me. I have no reason to hate Palace or Millwall, when both play in a different league. 

    The magic of the FA Cup is that every so often, a story is created when an underdog beats one of the giants. 
    Well good for you. That's a very mature and adult attitude to adopt.

    But if you don't mind, the rest of us who've grown up watching them gain a foothold and gradually infect the areas we live in are suffering pain and misery here. So, with the greatest of respect, please allow us to express our grief and despair in abject misery. Thank you.
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,842
    The best footballing period in their history running parallel with our worst makes it all sooooo much worse and add in the scum (only club in south east London without an FA Cup ) in their best footballing period ever and you have the biggest shit show on earth .
    weve all got a hard on for a game with fucking orient , they’ve just gone and beaten Man City won the FA Cup , have Liverpool next week and are going on a European tour with a load more attractive fixtures 
    what A load of Cnut 
    "Ex Palace player" Paul Mortimer coming up on Radio London.

    You're banned mate

    :-)
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,908
    As i said previously, palace doing well is of miniscule importance compared to millwall doing well as palace is not something that happens in my world - they are over there and only became of real relevance when we had to ground share. The silver lining to us losing our status as the only major trophy winners south of the river is that millwall now become the only team not to have won a major trophy and puts them firmly into the loser bin. It's better how it was but its something and something i'm happy to remind millwall about  :D  
  • NelsonsFU
    NelsonsFU Posts: 205
    Don’t forget their secret weapon - the Ultras. I had to do a double take as I thought the “4 poofs and a Pianno” group had expanded 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,490
    edited May 18
    Question for the people who always back English teams in Europe; will you be backing the Nigels?

    For me, they've just joined Arsenal as the only two teams, who I'll back foreign opposition. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited May 18
    JamesSeed said:
    The great thing about Charlton fans are they are so level headed as demonstrated on CL ?

    They have 7 chips on one shoulder about Palace and 7 chips on the other shoulder about Millwall.

    A week before a 50/50 match in getting Charlton Athletic back to their home land of the Championship and the 2nd tier, they are focused on Palace who left Charlton behind long ago. The League cup game when we lost 4-1 with our 1st team against their reserves was when we waved goodbye in their tatty old stadium. The last close game was the 2-1 lost when Glenn Murray scored twice after Ben Hamer's slip. 
    I took that loss badly as 1-0 up at HT and JJ should have buried his header to go 2 up 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Palace have a hybrid fan base with more ethnic groups than I see at Charlton. I'm not talking about ground hoppers or Football tourists. Many of their supporters live in Surrey but Thornton heath is very diverse as well as West Croydon where English isn't spoken very often.

    Because of my Bermondsey roots I suffered more if we lost to Millwall because in many of those games we were higher in the table FFS.

    Tribal rivalry is an ancient feral state and Charlton should probably focus on Millwall our nearest rival, IF and when we reached the promised land of the 2nd tier as opposed to a Premier team, with an FA cup win and European football next season.

    Jealousy eats you up as I know with my hatred of Chelsea ! 😤
    Sam, it’s not just about tribalism. I have friends who decided to become palace fans two or three years ago. They’ve always been very patronising about Charlton, and pretend to not even know which league we’re in. 
    The one thing I’ve had to counter their jibes was the fact that we’d actually won a major trophy and they hadn’t. Of course It should be water off a duck’s back, I know, but it does rile me up. They have no understanding of the history of the game. To them it’s all about the Premier League. I guarantee if palace were relegated they’d soon lose interest. 

    When Charlton reached the Premier League, we had new fans as well. Staying with my parents one weekend in Canterbury I got the coach up from the Victoria Pub. One 'fan' was a recently retired weather man on Meridian; he knew all the current players TBF. 
    Despite his age I knew he was a newbie as when I compared a player to John Humphrey's he didn't know who I was talking about ! Johnny H !
    It would be like a fan not knowing about the late great Jimmy Seed.
    If Palace were ever relegated they would lose 'fans' like we did and the odious Chelsea did back in the day.

    Not all 'fans' who purport to be  following CAFC are "Charlton until I die"

    That's show business.