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Wembley tickets - 39k officially SOLD OUT (p109)

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    sam3110 said:
    Can't wait to chant "your end's too big for you" at Leyton on Sunday then

  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    edited May 23
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    On top of the ticket office closed to personal callers on either Tuesday or Wednesday this week, apparently calls were not being taken from 14.00 today.
    How many staff do we have working there?
    The bare minimum and not just the ticket office in my opinion
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    valleynick66 said:
    Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints. 
    If 70,000 seats, plus unknowns such as Corporates have been sold, there is likely to be 15,000 empty seats.
    I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us). 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,275
    edited May 23
    The other extreme, pay by contactless on the day, first come first served. Takes a lot of hassle and IT and people out the system. It's the future.
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,528
    Covered End said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints. 
    If 70,000 seats, plus unknowns such as Corporates have been sold, there is likely to be 15,000 empty seats.
    I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us). 
    This. The stadium holds 90,000. So let the paying fans have a chance of buying those 90,000 tickets. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    superclive98 said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints. 
    Of course not, but it won't be anywhere near full.
    I tend to agree.

     I meant if the only obviously empty seats are the 6k unsold for Orient it would be reasonable. 

    But we likely will see other areas never made available. 
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    se9addick said:
    So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation. 
    No on par with 2019
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,224
    edited May 23
    orpingtonRED said:
    follett said:
    Seems such a shame to have people missing out when there’s empty sections
    Are there charlton fans still missing out? I don't know of any personally.
    Maybe if you're after a few seats together or concessions, it's harder but surely if you aint fussy and want to go, fingers crossed you will go
    Yes I still know of a group of 4 waiting on the club database phase to resume 2 adults and 2 kids will be difficult to obtain as a group together.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,736
    shirty5 said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    On top of the ticket office closed to personal callers on either Tuesday or Wednesday this week, apparently calls were not being taken from 14.00 today.
    How many staff do we have working there?
    The bear minimum and not just the ticket office in my opinion


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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,472
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/win-hospitality-upgrade-wembley-final
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,286
    So the upper tier, from the halfway line to the 6 yard box on the South side, in the Leyton Orient end, will be completely empty as it stands
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,595
    Covered End said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints. 
    If 70,000 seats, plus unknowns such as Corporates have been sold, there is likely to be 15,000 empty seats.
    I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us). 
    Where's Ronnie when you need him...🙄
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,360
    If we ever do make it to the championship and find ourselves in this situation again, we will likely be playing a bigger club who will easily sell out their allocation. Worth remembering that. 

    There would be no thousands of extras if we were playing the likes of West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich etc.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Braziliance said:
    If we ever do make it to the championship and find ourselves in this situation again, we will likely be playing a bigger club who will easily sell out their allocation. Worth remembering that. 

    There would be no thousands of extras if we were playing the likes of West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich etc.
    But there seemingly aren’t thousands of extras now ! 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,033
    Henry Irving said:
    LargeAddick said:
    southamptonaddick said:
    The Red Robin said:
    Rufus is a dogs name said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Surely the club can only communicate if there is something to communicate?

    Or are people suggesting the club should issue a daily update that there is no update?
    Given the fact its now Friday afternoon and the game is Sunday, it's more about comms from the club putting pressure on Wembley/EFL, even if there is no update 
    Nothing to lose from the club by putting public pressure on Wembley.
    I am fairly certain the club are putting as much pressure as they can on Wembley to try to get more tickets.
    You have more faith in that happening than I do.
    I was told today, from a reliable source who would know, that we have asked at least three times since the last batch sold out yesterday but the EFL are not agreeing to our requests.
    I'm not buying that the approval of any requests is made by the EFL though? Seems far more likely to be a police decision. Why would the EFL care if we have 5k more tickets?

    Look at the City-Forest cup semi final this season, City had about 5k tickets unsold and Forest wanted them. Not allowed. That wasn't the EFL.

    City v Liverpool 3 years ago, had thousands unsold. Liverpool weren't allowed any more tickets (but nothing to do with the EFL) and on the day part of the City section in the upper tier looked like this:


  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,051
    Braziliance said:
    If we ever do make it to the championship and find ourselves in this situation again, we will likely be playing a bigger club who will easily sell out their allocation. Worth remembering that. 

    There would be no thousands of extras if we were playing the likes of West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich etc.
    Sunderland are bigger than all of those clubs and we got part of their allocation last time. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,184
    Sad reality is the EFL will learn the wrong lesson from this. They won’t think it needs to be better organised. They’ll think there was so much demand the tickets should’ve been more expensive 
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 1,789
    Covered End said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints. 
    If 70,000 seats, plus unknowns such as Corporates have been sold, there is likely to be 15,000 empty seats.
    I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us). 
    In 2007 when the stadium first opened Club Wembley and the EFL couldn't reach an agreement on extending ticket sales - so Club Wembley seats were held exclusively for Club Wembley members.

    That's the dumbest one I can think of.

    Championship and League 2 finals below.




  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    shirty5 said:
    se9addick said:
    So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation. 
    No on par with 2019
    Which suggests there is no conspiracy.  There is clearly a threshold where it becomes viable for one of the two clubs to get a significant increase in tickets. And you work back from 90,000 to included segregation / hospitality etc. where both clubs initially get 38,000. I reckon if one club sells under 20/15,000 that is when you see 10k tickets being reallocated to the other club. But if both clubs sell over 20-25,000 reallocation becomes harder to do, beyond a few blocks.  

    It’s up to clubs how fans can buy tickets. The likes of Sheffield United & Sunderland probably had more restrictions on how many tickets individuals can buy. 

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  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    Woodwork said:
    shirty5 said:
    se9addick said:
    So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation. 
    No on par with 2019
    Which suggests there is no conspiracy.  There is clearly a threshold where it becomes viable for one of the two clubs to get a significant increase in tickets. And you work back from 90,000 to included segregation / hospitality etc. where both clubs initially get 38,000. I reckon if one club sells under 20/15,000 that is when you see 10k tickets being reallocated to the other club. But if both clubs sell over 20-25,000 reallocation becomes harder to do, beyond a few blocks.  

    It’s up to clubs how fans can buy tickets. The likes of Sheffield United & Sunderland probably had more restrictions on how many tickets individuals can buy. 
    Attendance back in 2019 was over 76,000 in which Charlton had over 38,000 that afternoon 
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    shirty5 said:
    Woodwork said:
    shirty5 said:
    se9addick said:
    So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation. 
    No on par with 2019
    Which suggests there is no conspiracy.  There is clearly a threshold where it becomes viable for one of the two clubs to get a significant increase in tickets. And you work back from 90,000 to included segregation / hospitality etc. where both clubs initially get 38,000. I reckon if one club sells under 20/15,000 that is when you see 10k tickets being reallocated to the other club. But if both clubs sell over 20-25,000 reallocation becomes harder to do, beyond a few blocks.  

    It’s up to clubs how fans can buy tickets. The likes of Sheffield United & Sunderland probably had more restrictions on how many tickets individuals can buy. 
    Attendance back in 2019 was over 76,000 in which Charlton had over 38,000 that afternoon 
    By a few thousand. Which is exactly my point. Wembley will reallocate a few blocks if one club doesn’t sell out, but they’ll only reallocate significant amounts of tickets if one club sells under 20/15,000. Which looks to be the case if you look back at various play-off finals. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,082
    shirty5 said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    On top of the ticket office closed to personal callers on either Tuesday or Wednesday this week, apparently calls were not being taken from 14.00 today.
    How many staff do we have working there?
    The bare minimum and not just the ticket office in my opinion

    I do not know the numbers but we'd probably shocked at how many are full time Monday to Friday.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,211
    Has there been any official cafc announcement that we’ve been refused additional tickets? 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    Clearly they don't like reapportioning certain areas of the stadium from one club to another.  Maybe it's down to how the concourses and entrances are laid out?
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Woodwork said:
    shirty5 said:
    Woodwork said:
    shirty5 said:
    se9addick said:
    So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation. 
    No on par with 2019
    Which suggests there is no conspiracy.  There is clearly a threshold where it becomes viable for one of the two clubs to get a significant increase in tickets. And you work back from 90,000 to included segregation / hospitality etc. where both clubs initially get 38,000. I reckon if one club sells under 20/15,000 that is when you see 10k tickets being reallocated to the other club. But if both clubs sell over 20-25,000 reallocation becomes harder to do, beyond a few blocks.  

    It’s up to clubs how fans can buy tickets. The likes of Sheffield United & Sunderland probably had more restrictions on how many tickets individuals can buy. 
    Attendance back in 2019 was over 76,000 in which Charlton had over 38,000 that afternoon 
    By a few thousand. Which is exactly my point. Wembley will reallocate a few blocks if one club doesn’t sell out, but they’ll only reallocate significant amounts of tickets if one club sells under 20/15,000. Which looks to be the case if you look back at various play-off finals. 
    If you are correct (and I have no reason to challenge you) the club could have said from the start we only get more if Orient sell less than x number. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,082
    edited May 23
    se9addick said:
    So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation. 

    I know I have said it before(and yes I know I'm a boring little c***), but if we'd had personal callers last Saturday and Sunday I'd strongly suggest we'd have shifted a lot more tickets.  This, in that we'd have potentially sold out by Tuesday and Wembley could have released more.
    I can foresee on Sunday that Charlton fans will be looking at many blocks of seats that could have been released and they'd be upset having friends and family that could have gone.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Solidgone said:
    Has there been any official cafc announcement that we’ve been refused additional tickets? 
    Don’t be silly ! 😉🙂

    We don’t need to be given updates. 

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