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Season Tickets 25/26- 10,000+ sold (pg 25).
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Airman Brown said:
The ticket revenue is worth far more to the club. £630 in ticket revenue is £525 net income. I don’t know what the profit is on shirts but let’s say it’s £10. I think the club gets half the revenue on VG, less costs. Let’s say that’s worth £50. So in the matchday example it’s £250 + £60 + £50 = £360 for the club.Covered End said:
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.Leeds_Addick said:
10 games (£300) + 6 shirts (£300) + VG (£120) = £720shine166 said:I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
Adult + Child ST = £630
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do.
I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
Box it up how you like but the club will always benefit from selling more STs, as long as it has thousands of empty seats. You will never replace that revenue with ancillary spend, even if casual fans spend more per game on merchandise than ST holders.
Therefore tripping people out of buying STs is bad for Charlton. Of course the sweet spot at which that doesn’t quite happen is up for debate.BTW I think the £375 price is a bit of a red herring because many people would not consider sitting in the lower Covered End.
‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the Covered End.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
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That is crazy pricing!Airman Brown said:The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.0 -
Leeds_Addick said:
10 games (£300) + 6 shirts (£300) + VG (£120) = £720shine166 said:I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
Adult + Child ST = £630
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
I'm fine as I am, my firsts comments are not about what I can or can't afford, it's about the attraction of just buying a ST at all for the average person.
I only mentioned my rough annual attendance etc for the previous season as there seems to be a misunderstanding that you either buy a ST and fully support the club, or you don't and just float around for the big occasions.0 -
As this is a finance scheme and presumably a regulated product, is Charlton telling the borrower what its commission is, if any ?clive said:Braziliance said:
Bromley are taking the mick with those prices as well imo.Covered End said:
Bromley's full price will be £350.Braziliance said:Some of the replies in this thread are well disappointing. Almost 'race to the bottom' type mindsets and shows why life is as it is at times.
The club should be challenege on the pricing, as if we are loaded, as implied, the money is far more valuable to an average worker in the UK, to a multi-billion business man. These price increases as I've highlighted will not make or break the season, and I'll be very concerned if season ticket sales are the idea to push a competitive team. That's something you do gradually, not instantly after so many poor seasons.
The aim should always be to get the Valley full within reason, always.
The price structure is awful. A more fair price structure would be something like.
Tier 3: £300 / £13 per game
Tier 2: £375 / £16 per game
Tier 3: £500 / £21 per game
It's remarkably short sighted to think the clubs advertised prices are fair, as what's been highlighted many times, how rotten the club has been for a number of years, and how many options people have for entertainment now, especially in London.
The club needs a way to build this fan base back up, Wembley was a good preview of what it could be, these prices just take it a step back.
So disappointing as well to read people essentially dig at people's finances and money management. It's a working class sport! People with low incomes should have a more favourable option.
I think you are being unrealistic.
End of the day it ain't my money, and it's easier for me to say, but if I owned a football club and was 'f'in loaded' I'd be willing to take the financial hit for at least the season just to fill the place out and keep the momentum going.
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
I didn't know this, I've never seen this. Is this an option that charges interest or just allows you to spread the cost? I feel this should be mentioned more by the club as I dont ever recall seeing a tweet about this or a social media post.Covered End said:
We have had a monthly payment scheme for longer than I can remember.Braziliance said:I wonder if the club have considered Klarna as an option or if that's possible.
With the cost of living up, and a lot of ordinary folk struggling, a monthly payment scheme, or quarterly may help the financial bleed a bit better.
We should all be in favour here of the most affordable pricing here and getting the place full to unite the fanbase and create special home atmospheres.
This ivory tower mindset is really not it.- Pay over the year in four or 10 payments using the V12 scheme
The above was on the initial season ticket announcement, but seems to have disappeared on subsequent announcements.
isn’t not disclosing that the whole issue around the car finance schemes that millions of people are likely to get compensation for ?0 -
Covered End said:
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.Leeds_Addick said:
10 games (£300) + 6 shirts (£300) + VG (£120) = £720shine166 said:I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
Adult + Child ST = £630
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do.
I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
I buy me and my son shirts to wear, certainly won't stop doing that just to buy a ST for games I cant attend as that's perceived as being more loyal to the club. Also, me not buying a shirt, doesn't all of a sudden make 8pm kick offs on a Tuesday more viable... I still have work to do and/or away child to collect from school and feed.
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That doesn't matter though, even if you can only attend 7 games a season you're not a true fan unless you've purchased a ST, whatever your circumstances.Airman Brown said:The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.0 -
Get to sit next to Delia though, we just can’t compete with that sort of price thing.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
That is crazy pricing!Airman Brown said:The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.0 -
Feel like you’re twisting argument mate. If you’re only intending to go 7 games for whatever reason, then a season ticket clearly isn’t for you.shine166 said:
That doesn't matter though, even if you can only attend 7 games a season you're not a true fan unless you've purchased a ST, whatever your circumstances.Airman Brown said:The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.6 -
Football prices these days are an issue across English football, not just us. Premier league match day prices are sky high now.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.7 -
The most expensive adult ticket in the away end at QPR when Oxford visited there last December on a Wednesday night was £38Chris_from_Sidcup said:Football prices these days are an issue across English football, not just us. Premier league match day prices are sky high now.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.0 - Sponsored links:
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AFKABartram said:
Feel like you’re twisting argument mate. If you’re only intending to go 7 games for whatever reason, then a season ticket clearly isn’t for you.shine166 said:
That doesn't matter though, even if you can only attend 7 games a season you're not a true fan unless you've purchased a ST, whatever your circumstances.Airman Brown said:The price structure is wrong. The range is too wide. This isn’t the fault of the current ownership, Sandgaard or Southall. It goes back to 2014. Yet it has become sacrosanct. At some point someone will have to deal with it.As it stands, Charlton’s top adult price is now higher than every Championship club in 24/25 except Bristol City (£5 dearer) and Norwich (a proper outlier at £914). It exceeds 18 Championship top prices by more than £100.The lowest price is higher than at eight Championship clubs and £100 cheaper than three.
I'm not really twisting anything, it was obviously a flippant response taking into consideration the comments from those that think you should just spend the money to prove you're a true fan.
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Sheffield Wednesday charged Leeds £45 when they went there.shirty5 said:
The most expensive adult ticket in the away end at QPR when Oxford visited there last December on a Wednesday night was £38Chris_from_Sidcup said:Football prices these days are an issue across English football, not just us. Premier league match day prices are sky high now.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.0 -
And people took the piss by buying a season ticket there and sitting in the D and E blocks.Braziliance said:
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.0 -
So two names for one stand, including reference to a "North Stand" which, from a naming convention point of view, is generally derided by most fans?letthegoodtimesroll said:Airman Brown said:
The ticket revenue is worth far more to the club. £630 in ticket revenue is £525 net income. I don’t know what the profit is on shirts but let’s say it’s £10. I think the club gets half the revenue on VG, less costs. Let’s say that’s worth £50. So in the matchday example it’s £250 + £60 + £50 = £360 for the club.Covered End said:
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.Leeds_Addick said:
10 games (£300) + 6 shirts (£300) + VG (£120) = £720shine166 said:I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
Adult + Child ST = £630
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do.
I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
Box it up how you like but the club will always benefit from selling more STs, as long as it has thousands of empty seats. You will never replace that revenue with ancillary spend, even if casual fans spend more per game on merchandise than ST holders.
Therefore tripping people out of buying STs is bad for Charlton. Of course the sweet spot at which that doesn’t quite happen is up for debate.BTW I think the £375 price is a bit of a red herring because many people would not consider sitting in the lower Covered End.
‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the Covered End.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
FFS
There is one stand - The Covered End.
It is split into two parts - Lower and Upper.7 -
anyway. how many sold so far, and how many will we sell do we think?
if we had 8k this year I reckon we'll get to 11k next year. maybe more
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That’s quite shocking.Eric10 said:
And people took the piss by buying a season ticket there and sitting in the D and E blocks.Braziliance said:
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.That he refused to move when we have lots of alternate seats to use and he was in the wrong and then the stewards could not assist.I can sort of understand someone ‘upgrading’ themselves if unchallenged but even so!1 -
The 16-20 zone was in the NW quadrant last season & possibly next season, the areas in black on the stadium map are not open for sale.Eric10 said:
And people took the piss by buying a season ticket there and sitting in the D and E blocks.Braziliance said:
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.Ahead of the 2024/25 season, Charlton have collaborated with the University of Greenwich to open a new, groundbreaking 16-20 zone at The Valley.
The section, which is located in the Covered End West Quadrant, is only open to supporters aged between 16 and 20.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/charlton-and-university-greenwich-launch-16-20-zone
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Over 10,000superclive said:anyway. how many sold so far, and how many will we sell do we think?
if we had 8k this year I reckon we'll get to 11k next year. maybe more
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How much do we expect match tickets to go up by next season?
Based off last season I paid £27 most times so a £550 season ticket really doesn't feel appealing knowing if I miss 2/3 games I'll be worse off0 -
At a guess £30 minimum on your £27 from last seasonAddicktion said:How much do we expect match tickets to go up by next season?
Based off last season I paid £27 most times so a £550 season ticket really doesn't feel appealing knowing if I miss 2/3 games I'll be worse off1 - Sponsored links:
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I suspect they will look to charge £30+ adults in the middle price tier seats and £35+ in the supposedly premium areas.Addicktion said:How much do we expect match tickets to go up by next season?
Based off last season I paid £27 most times so a £550 season ticket really doesn't feel appealing knowing if I miss 2/3 games I'll be worse off1 -
Okay thanks for the responses, that makes it more attractive then from a cost perspective0
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Agree with the above BUT...with The Valley only about 60% full for most games in the last few years Charlton have the space to accommodate both loyal fans/supporters & visiting tourists/ families.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Football prices these days are an issue across English football, not just us. Premier league match day prices are sky high now.
A lot of PL clubs fans are at war with their clubs as a lot of the big clubs are now limiting season tickets in favour of selling more match day tickets. They don't want the standard fan who has a few pints in the pub and turns up to the stadium 5 minutes before kick off. They want the family of tourists who pay expensive match day prices, then spend an hour in the club shop buying a ton of stuff.
The one thing the PL does do right however is it restricts the price of away tickets to 30 quid. We're going to find on many occasions this season that away tickets will cost 35-40 which is a joke.0 -
Sorry to hear you experienced that.Eric10 said:
And people took the piss by buying a season ticket there and sitting in the D and E blocks.Braziliance said:
Only 10 years ago we had a season ticket in the east stand A block for £150? Seems insane to me our cheapest is now £375 for an adult.
I still remember the conversation I had with two people that decided to take my seat in D block and the one next to it.
Me: Excuse me, you're in my seat.
Guy: ...
Me: Could you move?
Guy: No.
Me: Look, that's my seat. I'm a season ticket holder and I've been sat there for every game since 1995.
Guy: Well, it's not your seat today.
The stewards refused to intervene and I had to relocate.
The only way to properly enforce it would be to make a separate entrance at Lansdowne Mews and separate the A block from the rest of the stand through barriers.
A and B blocks are still cheap £130 season tickets, but you have to be 16-20 to sit there and that restriction alone seems to be enough to limit the number of fans sitting elsewhere.
I still don't see how that one off incident should be used to completely tarnish the offer.
If more seats were sold at the time, people wouldn't have been able to move. The Valley was half empty.
If stewards did their job, that would have been prevented.
It doesn't really bother me if someone pays for a cheaper seat and moves to an unoccupied* more expensive one, especially if they're a Charlton fan.1 -
The Covered End, always was, always will be. The bit above is the Upper North #youarewelcomeSporadicAddick said:
So two names for one stand, including reference to a "North Stand" which, from a naming convention point of view, is generally derided by most fans?letthegoodtimesroll said:Airman Brown said:
The ticket revenue is worth far more to the club. £630 in ticket revenue is £525 net income. I don’t know what the profit is on shirts but let’s say it’s £10. I think the club gets half the revenue on VG, less costs. Let’s say that’s worth £50. So in the matchday example it’s £250 + £60 + £50 = £360 for the club.Covered End said:
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.Leeds_Addick said:
10 games (£300) + 6 shirts (£300) + VG (£120) = £720shine166 said:I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
Adult + Child ST = £630
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do.
I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
Box it up how you like but the club will always benefit from selling more STs, as long as it has thousands of empty seats. You will never replace that revenue with ancillary spend, even if casual fans spend more per game on merchandise than ST holders.
Therefore tripping people out of buying STs is bad for Charlton. Of course the sweet spot at which that doesn’t quite happen is up for debate.BTW I think the £375 price is a bit of a red herring because many people would not consider sitting in the lower Covered End.
‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the Covered End.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
FFS
There is one stand - The Covered End.
It is split into two parts - Lower and Upper.
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If there is an upper north, there must be a corresponding lower north. Where’s that?letthegoodtimesroll said:
The Covered End, always was, always will be. The bit above is the Upper North #youarewelcomeSporadicAddick said:
So two names for one stand, including reference to a "North Stand" which, from a naming convention point of view, is generally derided by most fans?letthegoodtimesroll said:Airman Brown said:
The ticket revenue is worth far more to the club. £630 in ticket revenue is £525 net income. I don’t know what the profit is on shirts but let’s say it’s £10. I think the club gets half the revenue on VG, less costs. Let’s say that’s worth £50. So in the matchday example it’s £250 + £60 + £50 = £360 for the club.Covered End said:
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.Leeds_Addick said:
10 games (£300) + 6 shirts (£300) + VG (£120) = £720shine166 said:I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
Adult + Child ST = £630
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do.
I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
Box it up how you like but the club will always benefit from selling more STs, as long as it has thousands of empty seats. You will never replace that revenue with ancillary spend, even if casual fans spend more per game on merchandise than ST holders.
Therefore tripping people out of buying STs is bad for Charlton. Of course the sweet spot at which that doesn’t quite happen is up for debate.BTW I think the £375 price is a bit of a red herring because many people would not consider sitting in the lower Covered End.
‘Lower Covered End’ ??????
it’s the Covered End.
the bit above it isn’t the Covered End, it’s the Upper North.
FFS
There is one stand - The Covered End.
It is split into two parts - Lower and Upper.
Looking forward to enjoying my safe standing seat in the Covered End next season 😁.1 -
Everyone knows it was North Upper and not Upper North anyway. Now the whole thing is the "Covered End" and you're either in the Covered End Lower or Covered End Upper.1
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Here was me thinking every stand was called the Covered End.
Why else in our famous chant would we sing "Many hours have I spent, in the covered End choir" if we are not all able to sing from there.
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I think you should re-read the thread and my comments.shine166 said:Covered End said:
I was thinking the same and I fully appreciate we all have different finances, circumstances and priorities.Leeds_Addick said:
10 games (£300) + 6 shirts (£300) + VG (£120) = £720shine166 said:I'm more than happy to stick to my 10 games (plus 5 for the boy) 6 shirts between us, other tat and VG, just pointing out that the incentive for people to commit to more is decreasing.
It's great that some fans just spend the cash no matter what, but there's a big % where that extra £90 tips the budget over the scales... take the piss out of that all you like.
Adult + Child ST = £630
So you're far better off saving on the shirts and VG (ST will get you better priority anyway) and spending on a ST even if you don't get to enough games. You'd have enough left for a shirt each as well tbf.
Not saying I agree with the price increase though and not only because this is gonna be the phase 1 price next year
But if I was concerned about affordability of my team's matches, I would choose to go to £300 worth of games rather than buy £300 worth of shirts.
I'm not criticising nor suggesting what you or anyone should do.
I'm just saying I would choose going to games rather than buying shirts.
I buy me and my son shirts to wear, certainly won't stop doing that just to buy a ST for games I cant attend as that's perceived as being more loyal to the club. Also, me not buying a shirt, doesn't all of a sudden make 8pm kick offs on a Tuesday more viable... I still have work to do and/or away child to collect from school and feed.
I've already said if a S/T is not cost effective for someone then it makes no sense to buy one.
I repeat, I go to all the games so it makes sense for me.
You live much farther away and can't attend most of the games, so it doesn't make sense for you (nor would it me if I lived a fair distance).
You would be crazy to buy a S/T if you can't attend most of the games and I never suggested otherwise.
I see you home and away and know you're a loyal fan.
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NB if it makes no financial sense to buy a S/T, I don't know why people are getting heated over a discussion that doesn't DIRECTLY concern them?6
