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Thierry Small - signed a 4 year deal with Preston (p36)

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  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Not bothered, he had his moments but he was a left footer playing on the right. We can sign someone more suited to that role and he was never going to dislodge Edwards 

  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,670
    He’s a strange one. Bags of talent and easy to forget he’s only 20 but was very frustrating to watch, the best and worst player on the pitch every 5 mins 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,722
    edited June 6
    Fuck him. Doesn't want to be part of the journey and is far too inconsistent for the championship anyway. I will enjoy Preston's relegation even more when he's out of favour up there by January
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,933
    So will Ramsay go RWB and a new RCB comes in...... Or Ramsay stays RCB and we bring in a new RWB?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,927
    DDOUBLEE said:
    Disappointed in Thierry himself as well really. Yes I know footballers have every right to try and make as much dough as they want but I thought he may have a bit more loyal to the club that gave him a chance when his career was going nowhere but oh well 
    That's life (and especially football) though - Blackpool gave Sonny Carey a chance when he was playing non-league and offered him a new contract, should he have been a bit more loyal to them?

    Players move on, it's a shame in this instance but I don't see a player seeing out his agreed contract period as disloyal - we signed him for 18 months, he played those 18 months and gave his all, then moved on.
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Just hope it was a case of Jones feeling like Small wasn’t worth the money, rather than the owners being reluctant to pay that kind of wage. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,976
    TheHerminator said:
    Baffling 
    It's not really. Even though they're pretty shit, Preston are still an established Championship side and they've been able to give him a better offer. That combined with him likely being able to move back to his natural position has probably made it a no brainer of a decision for him. 

    It's disappointing of course but we moved on after losing Dobson, May and CBT so i'm not overly bothered about this. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,286
    edited June 6
    Braziliance said:
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    I hope Thierry doesnt regret it either then, as he's seemingly chased the money a few times in his career - I dont say that bitterly either, I genuinely hope he goes on to have a great career, but his decisions have been a tad questionable.

    Agree about the resale value, for FFP to count so much now, losing a player like him on compensation is a big blow.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited June 6
    Braziliance said:
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    Thanks for sharing. I’m not sure I think he’s worth that much per week to be honest - so I don’t necessarily blame ‘the board’ (and I’m sure NJ would have had a say in it as well. But as you mention, he may have ended up getting us a massive sell on.

    As ever time will tell.

    If Small reverts back to the mean of his pre Charlton career, just like CBT did, then it’s a massive waste of money by PNE.
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    DamoNorthStand said:
    So will Ramsay go RWB and a new RCB comes in...... Or Ramsay stays RCB and we bring in a new RWB?
    Second option, Ramsay is too good at RCB to shift him back out 
  • fattmatt
    fattmatt Posts: 579
    This might be a bit controversial, but I thought that he was too prone to too mistakes and lapses in control, running the ball out, misplaced passes. He had potential, but I'm not overly sorry that he's off. Good luck to him. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,670
    Relieved he didn’t go to Millwall at least 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Gutted that Thierry has gone to Preston. I assumed if he left he would go to a bigger club but the 4 year contract that PNE is offering must guzump the offer from Cafc.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,359
    Shame to see him go but not surprised, and not someone I’d call irreplaceable. His career shows he has plenty of belief in himself and is very comfortable moving clubs.

    He has pace, strength, tricks, can beat players, use both feet and can play anywhere down either wing - so much potential if he can become more consistent, improve his decision making and show more end product.

    It’ll be interesting to see where Preston play him. I liked him on the right, he was less predictable, and it was an important change in moving us from a mid table side into a promotion winning one.

    I can’t see us signing like for like, but hopefully a good replacement or two isn’t far away.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,927
    Woodwork said:
    I think fans are too harsh on lower league footballers. It’s a short career, and can end at any time. He may have been offered £500-750k more over that four year contract. But even an extra £100-200k more isn’t to be sniffed at. 

    It’s the players that already have £10m plus in the back that should be criticised more. And managers. Pep could have gone anywhere & was already set for life, before taking the City job.  
    Agree with this - look at someone like Reece Oxford, leaving his club at 26 after basically 3 years out injured.

    You're one bad injury away from this being a last contract, it's understandable to go for the biggest offer.

    I'm just honestly surprised if Preston are the biggest offer - hoped he'd stay, but if he didn't, feel like he could have done better elsewhere.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,286
    fenaddick said:
    DamoNorthStand said:
    So will Ramsay go RWB and a new RCB comes in...... Or Ramsay stays RCB and we bring in a new RWB?
    Second option, Ramsay is too good at RCB to shift him back out 
    Only way I see Ramsay back at RWB, is if Zach Mitchell is so good during Pre-Season, it becomes impossible to leave him out - Does anyone know how bad Zach's injury was at St. Johnstone or should he be back for Pre-Season?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    He played a full part in our promotion so I salute him for that 🫡.
    He has pace which is always dangerous, but two goals from an attacking player is very disappointing. Went missing quite frequently and his first touch was doubtful at times. 
    He could burst into action and make mugs of defenders, but I am not convinced he will be able to do this with sufficient consistency for this league.

    Good luck to the lad, but I think he will miss his mentor.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Good player for us. Bit of a gamechanger at times, especially in the second leg at home to Wycombe. Good luck to him, nice payday, doubt he’ll regret it, Preston are a decent club. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,981
    Real shame that but you just get the feeling now with NJ and Chapple in charge that there is a bigger picture and plan. 
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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    With a good year he'd have made that 10k a week back easily in a transfer up the ladder. 

    Hope the replacement is on par otherwise we're down a talented threat down the right-hand side that was still improving. 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 999
    fenaddick said:
    DamoNorthStand said:
    So will Ramsay go RWB and a new RCB comes in...... Or Ramsay stays RCB and we bring in a new RWB?
    Second option, Ramsay is too good at RCB to shift him back out 
    Yep keep Ramsey where he is too good there and doesn't offer much forward.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,927
    fattmatt said:
    This might be a bit controversial, but I thought that he was too prone to too mistakes and lapses in control, running the ball out, misplaced passes. He had potential, but I'm not overly sorry that he's off. Good luck to him. 
    He's 20 though, he should keep getting better.
  • Lazy_eye_metaphor
    Lazy_eye_metaphor Posts: 1,959
    Very disappointed. We looked noticeably weaker when he was missing last season. His power and pace will be hard to replace.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,325
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Braziliance said:
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    I hope Thierry doesnt regret it either then, as he's seemingly chased the money a few times in his career - I dont say that bitterly either, I genuinely hope he goes on to have a great career, but his decisions have been a tad questionable.

    Agree about the resale value, for FFP to count so much now, losing a player like him on compensation is a big blow.
    Would have been a massive asset but it is what it is, still been a really positive day.

    FishCostaFortune said:
    Braziliance said:
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    Thanks for sharing. I’m not sure I think he’s worth that much per week to be honest - so I don’t necessarily blame ‘the board’ (and I’m sure NJ would have had a say in it as well. But as you mention, he may have ended up getting us a massive sell on.

    As ever time will tell.

    If Small reverts back to the mean of his pre Charlton career, just like CBT did, then it’s a massive waste of money by PNE.
    It is why I was a bit gung-ho on the wages cause I was told that was the major stumbling block. It's why I also keep saying top league 1 players will be the strategy, if we can't afford to pay Thierry that, it's given me the impression that will be the theme for this window. 

    Great business by Preston, the funny thing is, a lot of their lot don't even believe it would have happened unless we played them in the FA cup. It was that performance that made them persist, typical if that really is the case.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,221
    soapboxsam said:
    Gutted that Thierry has gone to Preston. I assumed if he left he would go to a bigger club but the 4 year contract that PNE is offering must guzump the offer from Cafc.
    Only 4 times what he was on at Charlton.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,017
    I do wonder if he'll ever settle at a club. Has the security of a 4yr deal at Preston but seems to be a player that's constantly on the move. 

    Think we'll go in a different direction in terms of his replacement probably someone more in the Edwards ilk. 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,204
    One of the best available free agents this summer in EFL, baffled that Preston was the 'best' side to go in for him. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,976
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Braziliance said:
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    I hope Thierry doesnt regret it either then, as he's seemingly chased the money a few times in his career - I dont say that bitterly either, I genuinely hope he goes on to have a great career, but his decisions have been a tad questionable.

    Agree about the resale value, for FFP to count so much now, losing a player like him on compensation is a big blow.
    When did he? He was at Everton as a kid but turned down their pro offer as he felt he wouldn't get much game time, so went to Southampton where he turned out he got no game time there either, and then signed for us.

    This is the first time he's seemingly moved somewhere for the money.

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