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  • Steven81 said:
    Really good pair those two. Speak a lot of sense and are very knowledgable about the EFL
    Agreed - amazing how well they know us considering how many clubs they cover 
  • Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts

    rChampionship - Longest serving managers in the Championship
    Must say, looking at that list of teams brings it home that we are in for some big interesting games next season...can't wait. 😊
  • edited June 11

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 

    Edit: Changed my stance, the content was great, will watch more in the future.
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  • edited June 11
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 
    It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!
    Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior. 

    Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact. 

    Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.

    - Point out the obvious 
    - Say it with a lot of enthusiasm 
    - Avoid being opinionated
    - Don't say anything that could be controversial 
    - Sit on the fence a bit 
    - Upload it 
    It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculous 
    Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans. 

    The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.

    Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?

    Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point. 

    Like I said, lazy content. 
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 
    It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!
    Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior. 

    Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact. 

    Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.

    - Point out the obvious 
    - Say it with a lot of enthusiasm 
    - Avoid being opinionated
    - Don't say anything that could be controversial 
    - Sit on the fence a bit 
    - Upload it 
    It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculous 
    Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans. 

    The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.

    Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?

    Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point. 

    Like I said, lazy content. 
    He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazy
    Changed my mind. Thought the content was great and will look out for more of its kind. 

    Ignore original post. 
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 
    It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!
    Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior. 

    Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact. 

    Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.

    - Point out the obvious 
    - Say it with a lot of enthusiasm 
    - Avoid being opinionated
    - Don't say anything that could be controversial 
    - Sit on the fence a bit 
    - Upload it 
    It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculous 
    Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans. 

    The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.

    Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?

    Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point. 

    Like I said, lazy content. 
    He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazy
    Agreed, it is not the right conversation but they are generally excellent in providing, mostly, unbiased commentary on the EFL. Not through sensational or outlandish statements but through well thought out and researched ideas. Just because something isn't a sensationalist headline, doesn't mean its not thought out well or researched.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts
    That's madness. 
    Offering any manager a 5 yr contract is like buying a very expensive Euromillions ticket-very unlikely to be a winner.
  • fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 
    It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!
    Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior. 

    Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact. 

    Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.

    - Point out the obvious 
    - Say it with a lot of enthusiasm 
    - Avoid being opinionated
    - Don't say anything that could be controversial 
    - Sit on the fence a bit 
    - Upload it 
    It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculous 
    Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans. 

    The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.

    Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?

    Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point. 

    Like I said, lazy content. 
    He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazy
    Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too. 

    Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George? 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 
    It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!
    Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior. 

    Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact. 

    Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.

    - Point out the obvious 
    - Say it with a lot of enthusiasm 
    - Avoid being opinionated
    - Don't say anything that could be controversial 
    - Sit on the fence a bit 
    - Upload it 
    It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculous 
    Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans. 

    The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.

    Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?

    Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point. 

    Like I said, lazy content. 
    He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazy
    Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too. 

    Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George? 
    That’s George, Ali has hidden his loyalties as far as I’m aware
  • fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 
    It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!
    Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior. 

    Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact. 

    Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.

    - Point out the obvious 
    - Say it with a lot of enthusiasm 
    - Avoid being opinionated
    - Don't say anything that could be controversial 
    - Sit on the fence a bit 
    - Upload it 
    It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculous 
    Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans. 

    The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.

    Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?

    Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point. 

    Like I said, lazy content. 
    He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazy
    Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too. 

    Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George? 
    That’s George, Ali has hidden his loyalties as far as I’m aware
    Pretty impressive in that kind of industry to not let your loyalties slip out! 
  • fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 
    It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!
    Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior. 

    Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact. 

    Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.

    - Point out the obvious 
    - Say it with a lot of enthusiasm 
    - Avoid being opinionated
    - Don't say anything that could be controversial 
    - Sit on the fence a bit 
    - Upload it 
    It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculous 
    Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans. 

    The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.

    Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?

    Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point. 

    Like I said, lazy content. 
    He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazy
    Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too. 

    Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George? 
    That’s George, Ali has hidden his loyalties as far as I’m aware
    He goes and watches Wimbledon a lot, he mentioned that it’s the closest stadium to him a few times
  • edited June 11
    MarcusH26 said:
    fenaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Chunes said:

    Hardly against the grain is it? 

    I don't think there was a single person in football who thought that the move would have actually made sense, or been a good idea for Jones, just that it wasn't impossible and he's crazy enough to consider it.

    I think I'm missing a trick here. State the obvious with non-controversial opinions in an overwhelmingly positive tone and make out like it's brand new information, people lap it up.

    What next, "it would be a bad idea for a manager to not turn up to work". 
    It's an EFL summary show... He's summed up the situation clearly and concisely for people who weren't on top of it. I don't listen often, but when I do, I learn about managerial/ownership situations at other clubs I didn't have a clue about because I don't actively follow other teams. That's the value it's providing, it's not just about mad takes, there's AFTV if you want a bit of that!
    Video on the 9th of June. Jones Renewal 3 days prior. 

    Summary show or not, you can't talk about something with that much confidence if it's already happened. I just don't see the value personally. Any Charlton could have said that and it would have the same impact. 

    Seen far too much lazy content around us the last few weeks.

    - Point out the obvious 
    - Say it with a lot of enthusiasm 
    - Avoid being opinionated
    - Don't say anything that could be controversial 
    - Sit on the fence a bit 
    - Upload it 
    It’s actually a show about Welsh football so not designed for us, it obviously got tagged for us because they want eyeballs but the content is actually to tell Cardiff fans why it was ridiculous 
    Same thing then, just apply the logic to Cardiff fans. 

    The majority of them believe it wasn't going to happen, they were just excited about the speculation and the idea of it.

    Do they really need to be told that a manager dropping down a league to leave a team he's just been promoted with would have been a bad move?

    Just comes across a bit know it all. He's either stating the obvious and he's portrayed it like the view is a revelation, when everyone already knew it made no sense, or he's doing it to rub salt in the wounds, and if he isn't a Swansea fan, what's the point. 

    Like I said, lazy content. 
    He's asked a question and he answered it. Not everything can be a reaction to something straight away. It's a short clip from a much longer show. Given he has 2 podcasts, has some form of partnership that means he regularly guests on that one, runs a newsletter that employs people and does other freelance stuff I think it's hard to say anything he does is "lazy". You of all people must know that it's hard to get eyeballs on content that you spend time making and the fact he has made a career out of it is very impressive. And if you think it's lazy then (if you haven't already) listen to a Monday show of NTT20 when the season starts, to be able to talk about 36 games of football and know what's happening across 72 teams you can't be lazy
    Ali always does a fantastic job given he has to cover 3 divisions , was an excellent guest on CharltonTV the couple of times he's been on too. 

    Think he's an Oxford fan or is that George? 
    That’s George, Ali has hidden his loyalties as far as I’m aware
    Pretty impressive in that kind of industry to not let your loyalties slip out! 

    Always good to make sure everything is in place and unlikely to slip out when least expected...🙄


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    Charlton Athletic manager Nathan Jones visited University Campus of Football Business Wembley to offer advice and guidance to students on one of our many sports coaching-related degree courses, talking about his career, lessons he's learned and advice on what makes a successful football manager.
  • Jones is already the seventh longest serving Manager in the Championship ahead of the new season - Could be fifth by the time the season starts

    rChampionship - Longest serving managers in the Championship
    When you see that you have to ask whether committing to 5-year contracts is wise?
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