Id be surprised if we hit 12k. There was plenty of goodwill and optimism after prior league one promotion seasons (especially 11/12), and still we couldn't crack 12-13K. I hope we do of course.
I would have thought we’d do 12-14k but I guess too many people have been out priced . Shame
I still think we will. About 8,000 last season and we're already up 25% just two weeks or so after getting promoted. Come the start of the season I expect c12,000 and with a decent start that will increase I'm sure.
May have sold more if we had a smaller stadium, 4 of us thinking of 2 s/t - only for away game ticket priority, lets face it - you want a ticket you will get one for home games.
am I the only one whose a bit disappointed it's only 10k so far?
Prices & performances drive ST sales. Apart from Lower North at £375 the vast majority of seats are at £550. That's a lot of money to some people. Then you have player purchases . Only 1 to date with arguably one of our better players (Small) leaving.
Perhaps some people want to see the colour of the owners money before departing with their hard earned cash.
am I the only one whose a bit disappointed it's only 10k so far?
Prices & performances drive ST sales. Apart from Lower North at £375 the vast majority of seats are at £550. That's a lot of money to some people. Then you have player purchases . Only 1 to date with arguably one of our better players (Small) leaving.
Perhaps some people want to see the colour of the owners money before departing with their hard earned cash.
Valid points.
I’d add to that little benefit in parting with your cash earlier than you need to given the price increase already landed.
Slightly disappointed with that number considering promotion & what looks like good people behind the scenes, and a bit of a feel good factor, although a bit of a hike in ST prices still think it’s a low number, was hoping for around 13k at least.
I guess it all depends on how we are getting on, but if we get to 12,000 season tickets, and most away clubs will bring 3,000 with them what would be the chances of averaging 5,000 walk ups and being 20,000+ av over next season I wonder.
For a club that’s getting a relative windfall in the form of the TV money uplift on the back of effectively inconveniencing it’s fanbase by agreeing to only play around 8 or 9 games at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon, they should look to giving some of it back. One way would be to give every ST holder a 50% discount on the new shirt for the coming season. They should still make money on each shirt and they’d probably sell a lot more, which in turn could encourage others who might not normally buy one if they start seeing a lot more red shirts all around the ground on match days.
am I the only one whose a bit disappointed it's only 10k so far?
Not to go over old ground but think the sudden price rise probably hasn’t helped numbers
I do worry about that. Whilst there are some seats at £375, most areas start at £550 and that feels pretty expensive if you were a wavering buyer. I wonder if it might have been better to take a slight hit on the margin to build the base.
I would have thought we’d do 12-14k but I guess too many people have been out priced . Shame
I also think the uncertainty around kick off times puts people off. We would get Season tickets but it's difficult for us to get to evening games so wouldn't be cost effective. So we'll buy on a game by game basis.
am I the only one whose a bit disappointed it's only 10k so far?
Not to go over old ground but think the sudden price rise probably hasn’t helped numbers
I do worry about that. Whilst there are some seats at £375, most areas start at £550 and that feels pretty expensive if you were a wavering buyer. I wonder if it might have been better to take a slight hit on the margin to build the base.
With only 8 or 9 games max likely to kick off at 3pm on a Saturday, for anyone not living and working within an easy commute to and from the Valley I suspect buying match by match tickets is likely to be significantly cheaper than having a season ticket. Anyone with a £375 season ticket could find that ‘£16.30’ equivalent cost per match easily double if they find they can’t make half the games because they are moved to an evening, Saturday lunchtime or Sunday kick off, which the majority will be.
the issue then will be that buying a match by match ticket makes it easy to get out of the habit of going altogether.
am I the only one whose a bit disappointed it's only 10k so far?
Not to go over old ground but think the sudden price rise probably hasn’t helped numbers
I do worry about that. Whilst there are some seats at £375, most areas start at £550 and that feels pretty expensive if you were a wavering buyer. I wonder if it might have been better to take a slight hit on the margin to build the base.
With only 8 or 9 games max likely to kick off at 3pm on a Saturday, for anyone not living and working within an easy commute to and from the Valley I suspect buying match by match tickets is likely to be significantly cheaper than having a season ticket. Anyone with a £375 season ticket could find that ‘£16.30’ equivalent cost per match easily double if they find they can’t make half the games because they are moved to an evening, Saturday lunchtime or Sunday kick off, which the majority will be.
the issue then will be that buying a match by match ticket makes it easy to get out of the habit of going altogether.
I didn’t realise it was as few as 8 or 9 home 3pm kick offs, that’s really rubbish.
am I the only one whose a bit disappointed it's only 10k so far?
Not to go over old ground but think the sudden price rise probably hasn’t helped numbers
I do worry about that. Whilst there are some seats at £375, most areas start at £550 and that feels pretty expensive if you were a wavering buyer. I wonder if it might have been better to take a slight hit on the margin to build the base.
With only 8 or 9 games max likely to kick off at 3pm on a Saturday, for anyone not living and working within an easy commute to and from the Valley I suspect buying match by match tickets is likely to be significantly cheaper than having a season ticket. Anyone with a £375 season ticket could find that ‘£16.30’ equivalent cost per match easily double if they find they can’t make half the games because they are moved to an evening, Saturday lunchtime or Sunday kick off, which the majority will be.
the issue then will be that buying a match by match ticket makes it easy to get out of the habit of going altogether.
According to the EFL site, Championship games will be played across 33 weekends, 9 midweek and 4 Bank Holidays. We are likely to see quite a few 12.30 Saturday kick-offs though, with 5 Championship games picked each week.
Each team is shown at least 20 times and with every midweek game (9) already included, you’d think that might mean about 6 Saturday home games affected, so hopefully more than 8 or 9 at 3pm.
Regular weekend broadcast slots will include:
Approximately five matches on a Saturday lunchtime (12.30pm kick-off)
Frequent slots on a Friday night and Sunday afternoon (12.30pm kick-off)
Additional selected picks on a Thursday and Monday night
am I the only one whose a bit disappointed it's only 10k so far?
Not to go over old ground but think the sudden price rise probably hasn’t helped numbers
I do worry about that. Whilst there are some seats at £375, most areas start at £550 and that feels pretty expensive if you were a wavering buyer. I wonder if it might have been better to take a slight hit on the margin to build the base.
With only 8 or 9 games max likely to kick off at 3pm on a Saturday, for anyone not living and working within an easy commute to and from the Valley I suspect buying match by match tickets is likely to be significantly cheaper than having a season ticket. Anyone with a £375 season ticket could find that ‘£16.30’ equivalent cost per match easily double if they find they can’t make half the games because they are moved to an evening, Saturday lunchtime or Sunday kick off, which the majority will be.
the issue then will be that buying a match by match ticket makes it easy to get out of the habit of going altogether.
According to the EFL site, Championship games will be played across 33 weekends, 9 midweek and 4 Bank Holidays. We are likely to see quite a few 12.30 Saturday kick-offs though, with 5 Championship games picked each week.
Each team is shown at least 20 times and with every midweek game (9) already included, you’d think that might mean about 6 Saturday home games affected, so hopefully more than 8 or 9 at 3pm.
Regular weekend broadcast slots will include:
Approximately five matches on a Saturday lunchtime (12.30pm kick-off)
Frequent slots on a Friday night and Sunday afternoon (12.30pm kick-off)
Additional selected picks on a Thursday and Monday night
If we're in a relegation battle (lets hope not) we will definitely be on more than the regulation 20 times. At least we'll have the schedule for the first few months in a big chunk.
But ‘weekend’ could mean Friday night, Saturday lunchtime or evening and Sunday. It could also possibly mean Thursday and Monday night football. My pure guess, but losing half those 16/17 home games to TV seems about right. We will lose 7 of them at least in order to make up the ‘at least 20 times’ on TV claim
am I the only one whose a bit disappointed it's only 10k so far?
Not to go over old ground but think the sudden price rise probably hasn’t helped numbers
I do worry about that. Whilst there are some seats at £375, most areas start at £550 and that feels pretty expensive if you were a wavering buyer. I wonder if it might have been better to take a slight hit on the margin to build the base.
With only 8 or 9 games max likely to kick off at 3pm on a Saturday, for anyone not living and working within an easy commute to and from the Valley I suspect buying match by match tickets is likely to be significantly cheaper than having a season ticket. Anyone with a £375 season ticket could find that ‘£16.30’ equivalent cost per match easily double if they find they can’t make half the games because they are moved to an evening, Saturday lunchtime or Sunday kick off, which the majority will be.
the issue then will be that buying a match by match ticket makes it easy to get out of the habit of going altogether.
According to the EFL site, Championship games will be played across 33 weekends, 9 midweek and 4 Bank Holidays. We are likely to see quite a few 12.30 Saturday kick-offs though, with 5 Championship games picked each week.
Each team is shown at least 20 times and with every midweek game (9) already included, you’d think that might mean about 6 Saturday home games affected, so hopefully more than 8 or 9 at 3pm.
Regular weekend broadcast slots will include:
Approximately five matches on a Saturday lunchtime (12.30pm kick-off)
Frequent slots on a Friday night and Sunday afternoon (12.30pm kick-off)
Additional selected picks on a Thursday and Monday night
If we're in a relegation battle (let’s hope not) we will definitely be on more than the regulation 20 times. At least we'll have the schedule for the first few months in a big chunk.
In 2024/5 season QPR played 8 home matches at 3PM on a Saturday and Watford played 6 home matches at 3PM on Saturday’s.
Without knowing the fixture list, probably looking at sub 10 3PM Saturday matches the whole season.
6 for Watford is not encouraging. QPR 15th, Watford 14th - neither team box office attractions, or promotion contenders in their own right last season and the goals for of 53 for both and against 61,63 hardly offered the prospect of watching a high scoring match to attract sky viewers.
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I still think we will. About 8,000 last season and we're already up 25% just two weeks or so after getting promoted. Come the start of the season I expect c12,000 and with a decent start that will increase I'm sure.
To buy the club?
Fair point actually, people may calculate things and think they are better off with a season ticket than paying the matchday prices.
Perhaps some people want to see the colour of the owners money before departing with their hard earned cash.
We would get Season tickets but it's difficult for us to get to evening games so wouldn't be cost effective. So we'll buy on a game by game basis.
the issue then will be that buying a match by match ticket makes it easy to get out of the habit of going altogether.
so say, 16/17 home games on average
But ‘weekend’ could mean Friday night, Saturday lunchtime or evening and Sunday. It could also possibly mean Thursday and Monday night football. My pure guess, but losing half those 16/17 home games to TV seems about right. We will lose 7 of them at least in order to make up the ‘at least 20 times’ on TV claim
Without knowing the fixture list, probably looking at sub 10 3PM Saturday matches the whole season.