Karoy didn't miss too much of Pre-Season either when he was involved last year was he? - From memory he went to the Gold Cup and was back pretty much for the start of summer for Charlton - So will be a great experience for Tyreece (and Kaheim, although he's not as important to the First-Team) ahead of next season.
How on earth has Antonio been called up? Bloke nearly died in a car crash 6 months ago and hasn't played a single minute of football since. It doesn't say much for their other striker options.
How on earth has Antonio been called up? Bloke nearly died in a car crash 6 months ago and hasn't played a single minute of football since. It doesn't say much for their other striker options.
There's videos of him already fully integrated into the West Ham training by the end of the season, which is remarkable really
How on earth has Antonio been called up? Bloke nearly died in a car crash 6 months ago and hasn't played a single minute of football since. It doesn't say much for their other striker options.
You have to realise Steve McLaren is their manager.
"Tyreece don't worry about a thing 'Cause every little thing is gonna be alright" Singing, "Don't worry about a thing 'Cause every little thing is gonna be alright!"
Was doing a bit of stats digging (feel free to ignore rather than comment if you think stats don't matter) to compare TC with Tanto and noticed that TC's 7 goals last season came from an xG of only 3.57 according to FotMob. That seems incredibly low but suggests that if he can get into better positions, maybe even learning off Tanto, then his finishing could cause real issues for opposition keepers
Was doing a bit of stats digging (feel free to ignore rather than comment if you think stats don't matter) to compare TC with Tanto and noticed that TC's 7 goals last season came from an xG of only 3.57 according to FotMob. That seems incredibly low but suggests that if he can get into better positions, maybe even learning off Tanto, then his finishing could cause real issues for opposition keepers
I can see that in TC. The majority of his goals have always been good finishes, I struggle to think of any scrappy goals or tap ins he’s scored.
I think in terms of scoring more often, the challenge for him is to get in more goalscoring positions, make good decisions and keep composed to score more of his typical goals.
He can then add to that by gambling more with making runs, and consistently making more intelligent runs to score more of those simple goals that he so far hasn’t shown in his game. Players like Godden and Berry must be able to help him with that.
Was doing a bit of stats digging (feel free to ignore rather than comment if you think stats don't matter) to compare TC with Tanto and noticed that TC's 7 goals last season came from an xG of only 3.57 according to FotMob. That seems incredibly low but suggests that if he can get into better positions, maybe even learning off Tanto, then his finishing could cause real issues for opposition keepers
I can see that in TC. The majority of his goals have always been good finishes, I struggle to think of any scrappy goals or tap ins he’s scored.
I think in terms of scoring more often, the challenge for him is to get in more goalscoring positions, make good decisions and keep composed to score more of his typical goals.
He can then add to that by gambling more with making runs, and consistently making more intelligent runs to score more of those simple goals that he so far hasn’t shown in his game. Players like Godden and Berry must be able to help him with that.
It's something Stevie Brown has long been (constructively and proportionately) critical of TC for during his CAFCTV matchday summarising. He feels TC is on his heels a bit too often and doesn't anticipate/read the game as well as he might. Perhaps a trait that contributed to accusations of him being lazy or hiding earlier in his career. Brownie's take is that when TC is at his best that goes away a bit, probably a bit chicken and egg - does he play generally unconsciously more alert when the confidence is flowing or is it when he's consciously pushing himself to be on his toes and thinking ahead that he looks better and more confident?
Eitherway, I think it's fair comment from Brownie (interesting that the stats bear that out). I agree that if he can improve it he will become a better player and get more goals. We know he can strike a ball and stay composed when shooting.
It doesn't even need to be that the runs are that "intelligent". I'm not sure you can teach the kind of instincts and movement someone like Godden has, just maybe polish it. What you can coach and keep drumming into him is the general way he should react when the ball is in certain areas - Gillesphey is about to launch one at Miles/Tanto, then that's TC's cue to start running off their shoulder and gamble on receiving a flick on; or our right wing back is about to try and go past their left back and put a cross in, that's TC's cue to get in from the left wing and make a run towards the far post, try and arrive a bit late a catch a defender off guard. That sort of thing. It's pretty basic stuff, but effective. Someone like Frank Lampard made a very successful career out of just continually making those runs and capitalising on the few times the ball would drop for him. I think Bowyer spoke about the same thing (maybe in relation to Forster-Caskey?) and that it was how Bowyer scored most of his goals, just making so many runs that the law of averages dictated he would have to get a certain number of clear sights on goal.
Was doing a bit of stats digging (feel free to ignore rather than comment if you think stats don't matter) to compare TC with Tanto and noticed that TC's 7 goals last season came from an xG of only 3.57 according to FotMob. That seems incredibly low but suggests that if he can get into better positions, maybe even learning off Tanto, then his finishing could cause real issues for opposition keepers
I can see that in TC. The majority of his goals have always been good finishes, I struggle to think of any scrappy goals or tap ins he’s scored.
I think in terms of scoring more often, the challenge for him is to get in more goalscoring positions, make good decisions and keep composed to score more of his typical goals.
He can then add to that by gambling more with making runs, and consistently making more intelligent runs to score more of those simple goals that he so far hasn’t shown in his game. Players like Godden and Berry must be able to help him with that.
It's something Stevie Brown has long been (constructively and proportionately) critical of TC for during his CAFCTV matchday summarising. He feels TC is on his heels a bit too often and doesn't anticipate/read the game as well as he might. Perhaps a trait that contributed to accusations of him being lazy or hiding earlier in his career. Brownie's take is that when TC is at his best that goes away a bit, probably a bit chicken and egg - does he play generally unconsciously more alert when the confidence is flowing or is it when he's consciously pushing himself to be on his toes and thinking ahead that he looks better and more confident?
Eitherway, I think it's fair comment from Brownie (interesting that the stats bear that out). I agree that if he can improve it he will become a better player and get more goals. We know he can strike a ball and stay composed when shooting.
It doesn't even need to be that the runs are that "intelligent". I'm not sure you can teach the kind of instincts and movement someone like Godden has, just maybe polish it. What you can coach and keep drumming into him is the general way he should react when the ball is in certain areas - Gillesphey is about to launch one at Miles/Tanto, then that's TC's cue to start running off their shoulder and gamble on receiving a flick on; or our right wing back is about to try and go past their left back and put a cross in, that's TC's cue to get in from the left wing and make a run towards the far post, try and arrive a bit late a catch a defender off guard. That sort of thing. It's pretty basic stuff, but effective. Someone like Frank Lampard made a very successful career out of just continually making those runs and capitalising on the few times the ball would drop for him. I think Bowyer spoke about the same thing (maybe in relation to Forster-Caskey?) and that it was how Bowyer scored most of his goals, just making so many runs that the law of averages distracted he would have to get a certain number of clear sights on goal.
Being a great penalty box finisher is one of those skills which does seem hard to coach if you don't have the natural instinct. You see that with players who aren't natural "number 9s", they never seem to take up as many good positions in the box as the true goal poacher strikers, despite being top attacking players. Arsenal during the last few months of the season showed how important a true goal scorer is, as so often brilliant crosses went into the box where a natural goal scorer would have been, but there was nobody there.
He’s caused problems for defences at this level in both games so far, even if the goals and assists aren’t there yet - but neither are they for Apter.
Give him time, he’s still very young. He will be pushed hard because if he doesn’t Tanto and Miles are waiting for their opportunity to start.
Exciting to have a good set of forwards where you’d be fairly happy with any of them starting at this level.
I think those that don’t believe he offers enough are being overly critical by looking for mistakes and weaknesses, and not giving enough credit for what he brings.
I think those that don’t believe he offers enough are being overly critical by looking for mistakes and weaknesses, and not giving enough credit for what he brings.
Im not sure if it's being overly critical, but there's a certain amount of frustration that comes with TC. Sometimes it's his body language, sometimes it's giving away a poor ball or making the wrong decision. It makes it easy to forget all the hard things he gets right. He's young and there's definitely a player there. But I think Olaofe has done enough to get a start, and let TC have 30 mins to show what he can do against a tiring defence.
TC with usual performance. Extremely dangerous with the ball at his feet. Crap end product. If he could ever figure that one out, he could be special. I am just not sure if he ever will
TC with usual performance. Extremely dangerous with the ball at his feet. Crap end product. If he could ever figure that one out, he could be special. I am just not sure if he ever will
I think, trying to be objective and not influenced by who we paid the most money for, based on the first two games of the season we should be starting TC with either Miles or Tanto. TC seems to fit in our system and I’m not as of yet sure how Kelman does. Not writing anyone off, but based on the limited evidence so far I think TC is an important component in our side at this level.
I have a slightly different viewpoint. I am not sure if NJ formations will ever fit with TCs game at this level no matter we pair with him. It leaves the center forward too isolated. I would rather we have some combination of Kelmsn/Olaofe/Leaburn. If we plaid a traditional 442 with TC on the wing or perhaps a 433, it would be a different story
I have a slightly different viewpoint. I am not sure if NJ formations will ever fit with TCs game at this level no matter we pair with him. It leaves the center forward too isolated. I would rather we have some combination of Kelmsn/Olaofe/Leaburn. If we plaid a traditional 442 with TC on the wing or perhaps a 433, it would be a different story
I have a slightly different viewpoint. I am not sure if NJ formations will ever fit with TCs game at this level no matter we pair with him. It leaves the center forward too isolated. I would rather we have some combination of Kelmsn/Olaofe/Leaburn. If we plaid a traditional 442 with TC on the wing or perhaps a 433, it would be a different story
We kind of play a version of both, TC drifts left either leaving Kelman alone or in a 2 with the attacking midfielder (Carey/Knibbs/Berry) as the other striker and Apter out on the right
eaststandmike said: He still struggles to go past a defender with the ball and come out the other side ready to put a cross in, unlike Apter who does it with ease.
His lack of end product can’t continue and I can see Tanto starting ahead of him very soon
Apter has better balance. When TC twists and turns past a defender, he needs a moment to steady himself before he can cross or shoot, whereas Apter can deliver straight away.
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'Cause every little thing is gonna be alright"
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'Cause every little thing is gonna be alright!"
I think in terms of scoring more often, the challenge for him is to get in more goalscoring positions, make good decisions and keep composed to score more of his typical goals.
He can then add to that by gambling more with making runs, and consistently making more intelligent runs to score more of those simple goals that he so far hasn’t shown in his game. Players like Godden and Berry must be able to help him with that.
Eitherway, I think it's fair comment from Brownie (interesting that the stats bear that out). I agree that if he can improve it he will become a better player and get more goals. We know he can strike a ball and stay composed when shooting.
It doesn't even need to be that the runs are that "intelligent". I'm not sure you can teach the kind of instincts and movement someone like Godden has, just maybe polish it. What you can coach and keep drumming into him is the general way he should react when the ball is in certain areas - Gillesphey is about to launch one at Miles/Tanto, then that's TC's cue to start running off their shoulder and gamble on receiving a flick on; or our right wing back is about to try and go past their left back and put a cross in, that's TC's cue to get in from the left wing and make a run towards the far post, try and arrive a bit late a catch a defender off guard. That sort of thing. It's pretty basic stuff, but effective. Someone like Frank Lampard made a very successful career out of just continually making those runs and capitalising on the few times the ball would drop for him. I think Bowyer spoke about the same thing (maybe in relation to Forster-Caskey?) and that it was how Bowyer scored most of his goals, just making so many runs that the law of averages dictated he would have to get a certain number of clear sights on goal.
Give him time, he’s still very young. He will be pushed hard because if he doesn’t Tanto and Miles are waiting for their opportunity to start.
Exciting to have a good set of forwards where you’d be fairly happy with any of them starting at this level.
His lack of end product can’t continue and I can see Tanto starting ahead of him very soon
They thought Tyreece was very good.
As did I.
However I would like to see Tanto start a game instead of getting 10 minutes