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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    What was looking like a bad 1st session has now finished honours even.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,308
    Picking a bloke cos he had a good IPL over Sarfaraz Khan. Absolute madness 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    MarcusH26 said:
    Just don't have a lot of confidence in the attack we've got out there today to actually take wickets. Feels a bit ordinary 
    Need Stokes to come on. He has that habit of taking one when things aren't happening. 
    And so he does. As soft a dismissal as you will see for the debutante Sai as he wafts at one down the legside to Stokes to be caught by Smith, just seconds before lunch. 

    92-2 (25.4)
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,874
    Starting to get some tap here. I'd be shooting my skipper a few looks if he'd won the toss and elected to field when the weather's been like this past weeks and months
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    What was looking like a bad 2nd session, is looking like a bad 2nd session  :)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    200-2 (48.1)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    100* (144) for Jaiswal. Way too easy!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    215-2 (51) at tea
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 275
    India in a dominant position. Not entirely convinced bowling first was the right option. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    Good old Stokes 
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    Stokes bowls Jaiswal straight after tea

    221-3
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,308
    Whisper it, but Bashir is bowling pretty well
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    284-3
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    300-3 (74)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    102* (140) for Gill
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,874
    India turning the screw now
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,598
    India turning the screw now
    Just be happy we wont have to bowl 90 overs. Even though the sun is out, it wont get dark until 10pm and people have paid good money to see a full days play.

    Me being a pedantic old sod I'd milk it for all I could if I was England. Bowl 20 overs a session and make India declare a lot later than they would normally.

    Only penalty is a fine (?) and loss of points in the Test Championship Table. But as we wont be qualifying for that any time soon it's a soft penalty. 

    (And yes, I know India contributed to the slow over rate with their player needing treatment for "cramp" on his hand )
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    359-3 (85) at close. India's day by a country mile. 

    Gill 127* (175)
    Pant 65* (102)
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,322
    Three sessions, three wickets. We should bowl them out by Monday lunchtime. 
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 146
    edited June 20
    Why did Stokes put India in? Our fast bowling attack looks toothless. Woakes is over the hill, Tongue is a novice. Carse was Ok, we are badly
    missing Wood, Archer and Atkinson.
    This was a day to bat if I ever saw it.
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    What's the WG Grace quote about either batting first, or thinking about it then batting first?

    May I add - especially when it's 30 bloody degrees and sunny, and there's storms predicted around day 2/3 that could make it harder to bat.
    I suspect Stokes had in his head that stat that the last 6 teams to bat last there have won. As said though, it was probably a good toss to lose.

  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,322
    Why did Stokes put India in? Our fast bowling attack looks toothless. Woakes is over the hill, Tongue is a novice. Carse was Ok, we are badly
    missing Wood, Archer and Atkinson.
    This was a day to bat if I ever saw it.

    Totally get the frustration - it looked like a good day to bat, and yes, we’re missing our pace firepower. But let’s give Stokes some credit: this wasn't a reckless gamble. There was cloud cover early, a fresh pitch, and a belief in attacking with the ball - something that’s worked before under this leadership. And remember, Bazball isn’t just about smashing runs - it’s about bold calls, unsettling the opposition, and backing your players.  

    If we'd batted and Crawley and Pope had got out before lunch, would that have made batting first a bad decision?

    Woakes may not be 25 anymore, but he’s been exceptional in English conditions, and he's certainly not over the hill. If fit, he should take the new ball in every Test remaining this Summer. Tongue and Carse are developing, and you don’t get experience without game time. Would it be better if Wood, Archer and Atkinson fit? Of course. But you can’t plan around fantasy fitness. You work with who’s available - and back them to perform.

    Sometimes the dice don't roll your way early on. But hindsight shouldn’t diminish the courage to take a proactive option. Let’s judge this over the course of the match - not just the first session. 

    We were never going to win the match on the first day: I think the gamble to bowl was based on the view that batting in the fourth innings - especially at Headingley - is often easier than batting in the first innings.  

    @Covered End is right though.  Today would have been a good day to lose the toss and deal with the consequences.  

  • greenwichred68
    greenwichred68 Posts: 277
    England need a big day today and basically bowl much better.I dont know if its true or not but at some stage of the days play England only bowled 2 balls at the stumps.If thats true thats truely awful.India will go big today no doubt.Will we get a wicket before tea?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Broad before the game was worried that Woakes was undercooked,  as he needs overs under his belt to be at his best
  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,263
    Good game for the England seamers. The ones who aren't playing, I mean.
    Ollie Robinson, in particular, might wonder why he has been consigned back to the county game. (If he didn't already know)
  • greenwichred68
    greenwichred68 Posts: 277
    Broad before the game was worried that Woakes was undercooked,  as he needs overs under his belt to be at his best
    This is awful bowling from Woakes.Surely there is better out there than him.Knowing McCullum and Stokes they will pick him agsin next test.Him and Tongue hopefully wont play again.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,722
    Chizz said:
    Why did Stokes put India in? Our fast bowling attack looks toothless. Woakes is over the hill, Tongue is a novice. Carse was Ok, we are badly
    missing Wood, Archer and Atkinson.
    This was a day to bat if I ever saw it.

    Totally get the frustration - it looked like a good day to bat, and yes, we’re missing our pace firepower. But let’s give Stokes some credit: this wasn't a reckless gamble. There was cloud cover early, a fresh pitch, and a belief in attacking with the ball - something that’s worked before under this leadership. And remember, Bazball isn’t just about smashing runs - it’s about bold calls, unsettling the opposition, and backing your players.  

    If we'd batted and Crawley and Pope had got out before lunch, would that have made batting first a bad decision?

    Woakes may not be 25 anymore, but he’s been exceptional in English conditions, and he's certainly not over the hill. If fit, he should take the new ball in every Test remaining this Summer. Tongue and Carse are developing, and you don’t get experience without game time. Would it be better if Wood, Archer and Atkinson fit? Of course. But you can’t plan around fantasy fitness. You work with who’s available - and back them to perform.

    Sometimes the dice don't roll your way early on. But hindsight shouldn’t diminish the courage to take a proactive option. Let’s judge this over the course of the match - not just the first session. 

    We were never going to win the match on the first day: I think the gamble to bowl was based on the view that batting in the fourth innings - especially at Headingley - is often easier than batting in the first innings.  

    @Covered End is right though.  Today would have been a good day to lose the toss and deal with the consequences.  

    Genuinely can't tell if this is satire or not
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 146
    Chizz said:
    Why did Stokes put India in? Our fast bowling attack looks toothless. Woakes is over the hill, Tongue is a novice. Carse was Ok, we are badly
    missing Wood, Archer and Atkinson.
    This was a day to bat if I ever saw it.

    Totally get the frustration - it looked like a good day to bat, and yes, we’re missing our pace firepower. But let’s give Stokes some credit: this wasn't a reckless gamble. There was cloud cover early, a fresh pitch, and a belief in attacking with the ball - something that’s worked before under this leadership. And remember, Bazball isn’t just about smashing runs - it’s about bold calls, unsettling the opposition, and backing your players.  

    If we'd batted and Crawley and Pope had got out before lunch, would that have made batting first a bad decision?

    Woakes may not be 25 anymore, but he’s been exceptional in English conditions, and he's certainly not over the hill. If fit, he should take the new ball in every Test remaining this Summer. Tongue and Carse are developing, and you don’t get experience without game time. Would it be better if Wood, Archer and Atkinson fit? Of course. But you can’t plan around fantasy fitness. You work with who’s available - and back them to perform.

    Sometimes the dice don't roll your way early on. But hindsight shouldn’t diminish the courage to take a proactive option. Let’s judge this over the course of the match - not just the first session. 

    We were never going to win the match on the first day: I think the gamble to bowl was based on the view that batting in the fourth innings - especially at Headingley - is often easier than batting in the first innings.  

    @Covered End is right though.  Today would have been a good day to lose the toss and deal with the consequences.  

    Stokes got it totally wrong. India are really bullying our bowlers. If this was anybody but Stokes making this decision he would be getting pelters. Just listen to what Michael Vaughan says about it. Our second string bowling attack are just not good enough. Bashir looks our best bowler.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,017
    Jofra isn't in the Sussex squad up at Durham so not sure what's gone on with that plan that Key had a couple of weeks back. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,926
    Stokes looks our best bowler rather than Bashir.