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  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,894
    Another wonderful days play..
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    I can’t recall too many of the England Tests going to 5 days since bazball.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    I can’t recall too many of the England Tests going to 5 days since bazball.
    Two teams with better batters than bowlers. In English conditions certainly. 

    England have tended to win series at home to India, as in English conditions Anderson and Broad were dominant.  Without them or the various injured quicks, that advantage isn't there now.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,016
    Sussex 361 a/o with a 148* from England Lion James Coles 

    Time for the return of Jofra Archer! 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    Lancashire, in their game against Kent are playing three spinners - Luke Wells (opening bat), Chris Green (Australia) and Ashton Turner (Australia). Last season they had Nathan Lyon (Australia). Meanwhile, Tom Hartley, having played the first half of the season when wickets would not have suited spin as much as they are doing now, is in their 2s. This is the Bashir situation re-visited although, in the case of Somerset, their two spinning alternatives are both English.   
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,894
    Turner was literally born to be a spinner with a name like that 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,308
    Lancashire, in their game against Kent are playing three spinners - Luke Wells (opening bat), Chris Green (Australia) and Ashton Turner (Australia). Last season they had Nathan Lyon (Australia). Meanwhile, Tom Hartley, having played the first half of the season when wickets would not have suited spin as much as they are doing now, is in their 2s. This is the Bashir situation re-visited although, in the case of Somerset, their two spinning alternatives are both English.   
    Hartley isn't county standard anyway tbh
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    Leuth said:
    Lancashire, in their game against Kent are playing three spinners - Luke Wells (opening bat), Chris Green (Australia) and Ashton Turner (Australia). Last season they had Nathan Lyon (Australia). Meanwhile, Tom Hartley, having played the first half of the season when wickets would not have suited spin as much as they are doing now, is in their 2s. This is the Bashir situation re-visited although, in the case of Somerset, their two spinning alternatives are both English.   
    Hartley isn't county standard anyway tbh
    One could argue the same about Bashir but until they get an opportunity to learn their trade, we'll never know.

    The facts are that Hartley has taken 14 wickets at 41.28 with an E/R of 2.98 and Green has 1-72 with an E/R of 3.13. Green is a white ball spinner who has, at the age of 31, just 45 FC wickets at 36.44. Lyon I totally get. Green I don't especially when Hartley has had to do the hard yards in April and May.  
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,722
    Why would you not have slips in? Doesn't make any sense 
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,894
    England's attack a little powder puff but am a bit curious about our tactics at lunch.I thought our field placings were far too negative and we are now reduced to waiting for India to declare. The best way of staying in this game is to take wickets. As I type this Pant is out !
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    Yes, it's a bit strange how we appear to have moved from extreme bazball/attack in all situations, to more like a normal Test set up.
    In fact as said above, we've reverted to the ultra negative (at times) Cook tactics.

    You would assume at this stage, that we need to hold out tomorrow, against Bumrah for a draw.
  • last_line
    last_line Posts: 572
    Nailed on that Crawley will be back on the balcony by close of play, once India declare later this afternoon.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,734
    Lancashire, in their game against Kent are playing three spinners - Luke Wells (opening bat), Chris Green (Australia) and Ashton Turner (Australia). Last season they had Nathan Lyon (Australia). Meanwhile, Tom Hartley, having played the first half of the season when wickets would not have suited spin as much as they are doing now, is in their 2s. This is the Bashir situation re-visited although, in the case of Somerset, their two spinning alternatives are both English.   
    Considering I am a cricket geek and the career he’s had I’m surprised Ashton Turner’s name has slipped me by. 

    However, what a name for a spinner that is 😂
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    edited June 23
    349-9
    3 wickets in 4 balls for Tongue.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    Does the Indian tail know they’re allowed to score runs?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    So, game would be over if this is a 4-day Test?
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,894
    India just farting about now ..should have Declared twenty minutes ago .
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,734
    Test cricket is so good but good luck explaining it to someone who knows nothing about it. 

    How do you explain that taking 3 wickets in an over makes it more likely England will lose 🤷‍♂️


  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    364 all out
    371 to win.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    364 all out
    371 to win.
    Not content with taking wickets from the tail while bowling Tongue has taken the final catch too 
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    This is absolutely bollox by India to continue batting. 
    I really hope England don't go full Bazball. 
    Bat sensibly and get the draw.

    As I post this India are all out.

    I still think trying to chase this target is stupid,  bat sensibly and walk off tomorrow with a draw.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    You know they’ll go for the win though. Will be very watchable.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,308
    This is absolutely bollox by India to continue batting. 
    I really hope England don't go full Bazball. 
    Bat sensibly and get the draw.

    As I post this India are all out.

    I still think trying to chase this target is stupid,  bat sensibly and walk off tomorrow with a draw.
    They're definitely, absolutely going to try and chase it 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    I know. 
    But they shouldn't 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,016
    No way they'll settle for the draw , they'll come out in ODI mode and try and chase this as quickly as possible, see off Bumrah early and then try and hit Siraj to all parts. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    edited June 23
    If we want to win we've got to score at over 4.5 an over, to knock off the runs before the second new ball. India have to be clear favorites, but any result is possible.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    If England go for the win ,India will win.
    If England go for the draw, it will be a draw. 

    That's how I see it.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    edited June 23
    Inevitably, England's approach will have to change according to the situation they find themselves in. If they are, say, 175-2 with 40 overs to go, it's game on but if they are 175-5 it would be professional suicide to then try to win the game from there. There again, with Jadedja bowling on a 5th day pitch, I'm not sure that you can just try and block him out because there are sure to be three or four around the bat at that stage. 

    It's certainly all to play for and tomorrow will be a very intriguing day. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,947
    21-0 close of play.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,734
    Day 5: India need 10 wickets, England need 350 runs.

    Couldn’t really get much closer to an ideal fifth day of a Test match.