If we want to win we've got to score at over 4.5 an over, to knock off the runs before the second new ball. India have to be clear favorites, but any result is possible.
If we want to win we've got to score at over 4.5 an over, to knock off the runs before the second new ball. India have to be clear favorites, but any result is possible.
If we want to win we've got to score at over 4.5 an over, to knock off the runs before the second new ball. India have to be clear favorites, but any result is possible.
Crawley, Pope, Root and Stokes can rely on the memory of beating an India team comprising Bumrah, Siraj, Jadeja, Thakur and Gill, by making 378/3 the last time the two sides met in a Test in England.
With Duckett, Brook, Smith and Woakes, we've arguably got a stronger batting lineup than in that match.
There's no chance at all that England won't set out to win this Test.
If we want to win we've got to score at over 4.5 an over, to knock off the runs before the second new ball. India have to be clear favorites, but any result is possible.
Surely it's less than 4 an over?
As said above, before the 2nd new ball. 80 overs x 4.5 = 360 runs.
If we want to win we've got to score at over 4.5 an over, to knock off the runs before the second new ball. India have to be clear favorites, but any result is possible.
Surely it's less than 4 an over?
As said above, before the 2nd new ball. 80 overs x 4.5 = 360 runs.
In England's first innings, for context, we scored at 4.61
Crawley, Pope, Root and Stokes can rely on the memory of beating an India team comprising Bumrah, Siraj, Jadeja, Thakur and Gill, by making 378/3 the last time the two sides met in a Test in England.
With Duckett, Brook, Smith and Woakes, we've arguably got a stronger batting lineup than in that match.
There's no chance at all that England won't set out to win this Test.
I'd add that Carse is much more capable at 9 than Broad, who we had in that team, but let's not forget that Bairstow had a day out that day.
I think I'm more optimistic than most about tomorrow. I reckon it's about 60/40 in favour of India.
We seem to lose games we should win but we do the mad unexpected stuff to win a game like this.
Have a feeling we're in a for an all-timer, whatever the result, but now I've said that that ... 4 down by lunch and it's curtains!
There always has to be someone held culpable for things people on CL do not want to see because it's always that person's fault when it does happen. If I had a pound for each and every time I had said "we look comfortable here" and we then conceded a goal or lost a wicket but was paid a pound when that didn't happen, then I would be in massive profit because superstitious people only ever remember the bad episodes that they think proves their point.
With that in mind, I'm thinking of starting a new thread entitled "All Aboard The Good Ship Charlton Survival". How long before there's a petition to ban me?
Batting positively initially is definitely the sensible thing to do as not sure this team - bar Root and perhaps the skipper - could bat out 90 overs to save a test.
Taking the game to India is the best chance for us to avoid defeat.
I hope that when play begins today that we don't go full Bazball ( I hate that expression) from the off. Play normal cricket for the 1st session and then reassess at lunch. If we are say 3 wickets down by lunch then play sensible and go for the draw. If we find ourselves 120 without loss then have a go, but this is a 5 match series and a draw here with some of our best bowlers missing is not a bad result.
I hope that when play begins today that we don't go full Bazball ( I hate that expression) from the off. Play normal cricket for the 1st session and then reassess at lunch. If we are say 3 wickets down by lunch then play sensible and go for the draw. If we find ourselves 120 without loss then have a go, but this is a 5 match series and a draw here with some of our best bowlers missing is not a bad result.
I think England are favourites tbh, and they're favourites because of their batting approach
I hope that when play begins today that we don't go full Bazball ( I hate that expression) from the off. Play normal cricket for the 1st session and then reassess at lunch. If we are say 3 wickets down by lunch then play sensible and go for the draw. If we find ourselves 120 without loss then have a go, but this is a 5 match series and a draw here with some of our best bowlers missing is not a bad result.
I think England are favourites tbh, and they're favourites because of their batting approach
Lord why do you test me?
I've just said I agree with you on another thread and now you post this.
Mr Jagger, please behave.
I think we've got a very good chance and I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled it off whatsoever. But favourites? Stop it Louis!
I hope that when play begins today that we don't go full Bazball ( I hate that expression) from the off. Play normal cricket for the 1st session and then reassess at lunch. If we are say 3 wickets down by lunch then play sensible and go for the draw. If we find ourselves 120 without loss then have a go, but this is a 5 match series and a draw here with some of our best bowlers missing is not a bad result.
I think England are favourites tbh, and they're favourites because of their batting approach
Lump on then - 3.40 freely available. Before you do, though, I would check for the cloud cover that might be around. You don't have to be a great fast bowler to be an exponent of such conditions but it helps if you have one in your side that is. And take a check of the wicket for any cracks that Jadeja might expose on a 5th day wicket.
I hope that when play begins today that we don't go full Bazball ( I hate that expression) from the off. Play normal cricket for the 1st session and then reassess at lunch. If we are say 3 wickets down by lunch then play sensible and go for the draw. If we find ourselves 120 without loss then have a go, but this is a 5 match series and a draw here with some of our best bowlers missing is not a bad result.
I think England are favourites tbh, and they're favourites because of their batting approach
Lord why do you test me?
I've just said I agree with you on another thread and now you post this.
Mr Jagger, please behave.
I think we've got a very good chance and I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled it off whatsoever. But favourites? Stop it Louis!
MR READ, I put it to YOU that:
- India have three bowlers who leaked runs like crazy when the pitch was doing if anything a bit more - England bat aggressively down to 9 - Jadeja has a terrible record in England - Bumrah can bowl a maximum of 20, maybe 25 overs today - India have caught a case of the dropsies
I hope that when play begins today that we don't go full Bazball ( I hate that expression) from the off. Play normal cricket for the 1st session and then reassess at lunch. If we are say 3 wickets down by lunch then play sensible and go for the draw. If we find ourselves 120 without loss then have a go, but this is a 5 match series and a draw here with some of our best bowlers missing is not a bad result.
I think England are favourites tbh, and they're favourites because of their batting approach
Lord why do you test me?
I've just said I agree with you on another thread and now you post this.
Mr Jagger, please behave.
I think we've got a very good chance and I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled it off whatsoever. But favourites? Stop it Louis!
MR READ, I put it to YOU that:
- India have three bowlers who leaked runs like crazy when the pitch was doing if anything a bit more - England bat aggressively down to 9 - Jadeja has a terrible record in England - Bumrah can bowl a maximum of 20, maybe 25 overs today - India have caught a case of the dropsies
How are India going to get these wickets?
We will, and please excuse how vulgar this is, wank out at least five wickets today.
There will be someone caught hooking to fine leg, a cloth to mid off, an attempted clip to mid wicket that results in an LBW.
You know the sorts of dismissals I'm talking about.
I mentioned yesterday that I'm optimistic and really think we can do it. But I can't subscribe to "favourites".
I hope that when play begins today that we don't go full Bazball ( I hate that expression) from the off. Play normal cricket for the 1st session and then reassess at lunch. If we are say 3 wickets down by lunch then play sensible and go for the draw. If we find ourselves 120 without loss then have a go, but this is a 5 match series and a draw here with some of our best bowlers missing is not a bad result.
I think England are favourites tbh, and they're favourites because of their batting approach
Lump on then - 3.40 freely available. Before you do, though, I would check for the cloud cover that might be around. You don't have to be a great fast bowler to be an exponent of such conditions but it helps if you have one in your side that is. And take a check of the wicket for any cracks that Jadeja might expose on a 5th day wicket.
The more I look at the weather the draw looks really tasty at that 3.25 no?
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It's going to be some day, whatever the outcome.
Can't wait!
With Duckett, Brook, Smith and Woakes, we've arguably got a stronger batting lineup than in that match.
There's no chance at all that England won't set out to win this Test.
80 overs x 4.5 = 360 runs.
I think I'm more optimistic than most about tomorrow. I reckon it's about 60/40 in favour of India.
We seem to lose games we should win but we do the mad unexpected stuff to win a game like this.
Have a feeling we're in a for an all-timer, whatever the result, but now I've said that that ... 4 down by lunch and it's curtains!
India 2.24
Draw 3.45
England 3.70
Just before the close winviz had the draw at 5%, which Broady said was too low.
There always has to be someone held culpable for things people on CL do not want to see because it's always that person's fault when it does happen. If I had a pound for each and every time I had said "we look comfortable here" and we then conceded a goal or lost a wicket but was paid a pound when that didn't happen, then I would be in massive profit because superstitious people only ever remember the bad episodes that they think proves their point.
With that in mind, I'm thinking of starting a new thread entitled "All Aboard The Good Ship Charlton Survival". How long before there's a petition to ban me?
With this England team though, they'll definitely think about going for it
You heard it here....
Play normal cricket for the 1st session and then reassess at lunch.
If we are say 3 wickets down by lunch then play sensible and go for the draw.
If we find ourselves 120 without loss then have a go, but this is a 5 match series and a draw here with some of our best bowlers missing is not a bad result.
I've just said I agree with you on another thread and now you post this.
Mr Jagger, please behave.
I think we've got a very good chance and I wouldn't be surprised if we pulled it off whatsoever. But favourites? Stop it Louis!
- India have three bowlers who leaked runs like crazy when the pitch was doing if anything a bit more
- England bat aggressively down to 9
- Jadeja has a terrible record in England
- Bumrah can bowl a maximum of 20, maybe 25 overs today
- India have caught a case of the dropsies
How are India going to get these wickets?
There will be someone caught hooking to fine leg, a cloth to mid off, an attempted clip to mid wicket that results in an LBW.
You know the sorts of dismissals I'm talking about.
I mentioned yesterday that I'm optimistic and really think we can do it. But I can't subscribe to "favourites".