Its because most of it might as well be grown in a lab, the difference in taste, texture, everything between organic allotment/home/properly organically grown fruit and veg is night and day with supermarket water sacks
The One Show; more vanilla than Vanilla Ice eating vanilla sponge wearing a George ASDA vanilla tracksuit.
They have great guests, but the style and production are A+++++ dishwater. I'd rather spend 30 minutes listening to paint dry.
Its the same for so much stuff made by ITV and the BBC l, trying so hard not to offend the permanently offended so end up making someone that offends nobody but is utterly shite and forgettable
I disagree, I think it's because the vast majority of people are exactly as PopIcon says - vanilla. It's not the apparently offended complaining, it's the terminally dull switching off if anything at all ouside their tiny sphere of interest pops up. If it's not "reality" TV, top ten music, premier league football, uggs, sliders, crocs, shit lager, grey jogging bottoms and hoodies or fucking Greggs, they are not interested...
Maybe and there is something to be said for an overiding dullness of the nation and I use our disgracefully bland crisp stock choices as a data sample
Plain!, Salt and vinegar, cheese and onion
The Europeans laugh at our dull selection of savoury snacks and I don't blame them
And I make you right given the success of the X factor, anything with ant & dec on, I'm a celebrity get me out of here. Dull, dull, dull
Do they? When I come to England, I love the variety of flavours. Which Europeans are these? Thanks to immigration from Asian countries I find a great mix of different flavours in England.
When I first came to France in 2003 I swear that there were only plain crisps available.
The One Show; more vanilla than Vanilla Ice eating vanilla sponge wearing a George ASDA vanilla tracksuit.
They have great guests, but the style and production are A+++++ dishwater. I'd rather spend 30 minutes listening to paint dry.
Its the same for so much stuff made by ITV and the BBC l, trying so hard not to offend the permanently offended so end up making someone that offends nobody but is utterly shite and forgettable
I disagree, I think it's because the vast majority of people are exactly as PopIcon says - vanilla. It's not the apparently offended complaining, it's the terminally dull switching off if anything at all ouside their tiny sphere of interest pops up. If it's not "reality" TV, top ten music, premier league football, uggs, sliders, crocs, shit lager, grey jogging bottoms and hoodies or fucking Greggs, they are not interested...
Maybe and there is something to be said for an overiding dullness of the nation and I use our disgracefully bland crisp stock choices as a data sample
Plain!, Salt and vinegar, cheese and onion
The Europeans laugh at our dull selection of savoury snacks and I don't blame them
And I make you right given the success of the X factor, anything with ant & dec on, I'm a celebrity get me out of here. Dull, dull, dull
Do they? When I come to England, I love the variety of flavours. Which Europeans are these? Thanks to immigration from Asian countries I find a great mix of different flavours in England.
When I first came to France in 2003 I swear that there were only plain crisps available.
No way, petrol stations are a good example. I grant you occasionally now you can pay a fiver for balsamic rosemary or some bollocks like that but the routine 3 choices and variants of, will be the choice. Spain, Croatia, Germany, Belgium have amazingly interesting standard choices. Whatever I had at a Spanish airport last week had a picture of a tomato on the front, what I think was garlic as well and oddly lettuce. Flippin amazing
I am being continually hounded by my GPs surgery. I’ve filled in at least 3 forms asking about my physical health this year - same last year. As far as I’m aware I only have bipolar disorder and arthritis. My BMI, BP are normal. I’ve never smoked and I don’t drink much (except during match threads). I’ve been sent messages saying I must have a blood test or I won’t get my medication. I have the tests.
This morning I get a text saying to phone up and make an appointment for a HOME VISIT for my physical health check. Really???? I’m 61 and could run to the surgery.
I am being continually hounded by my GPs surgery. I’ve filled in at least 3 forms asking about my physical health this year - same last year. As far as I’m aware I only have bipolar disorder and arthritis. My BMI, BP are normal. I’ve never smoked and I don’t drink much (except during match threads). I’ve been sent messages saying I must have a blood test or I won’t get my medication. I have the tests.
This morning I get a text saying to phone up and make an appointment for a HOME VISIT for my physical health check. Really???? I’m 61 and could run to the surgery.
Me and a lot of my friends got texts recently about being put on statins. Fair enough, they must have some data-based information like, ya know, test results to enable them to make that decision. So I phoned them up to make sure it wasn't a mistake, nope, no mistake. They were going to blindly prescribe me statins. I argued the toss and told them if I needed them I would take them. After a call from a doctor she told me from the last set of blood results my cholesterol was fine, oddly really good but they were a while ago so sent me a link to book another blood test, came back decent again. Great. How many people who don't need them have been put on them and at what cost.
I'm all for correctly prescribed medications, they are a wonder of the modern world however putting people on them who don't need them seems to not be progress to me and an example where I guess an AI has been employed with defined parameters to tell everyone over 40 they need medicating then losing all that saved time by people like me asking to see the workings out
I am being continually hounded by my GPs surgery. I’ve filled in at least 3 forms asking about my physical health this year - same last year. As far as I’m aware I only have bipolar disorder and arthritis. My BMI, BP are normal. I’ve never smoked and I don’t drink much (except during match threads). I’ve been sent messages saying I must have a blood test or I won’t get my medication. I have the tests.
This morning I get a text saying to phone up and make an appointment for a HOME VISIT for my physical health check. Really???? I’m 61 and could run to the surgery.
Me and a lot of my friends got texts recently about being put on statins. Fair enough, they must have some data-based information like, ya know, test results to enable them to make that decision. So I phoned them up to make sure it wasn't a mistake, nope, no mistake. They were going to blindly prescribe me statins. I argued the toss and told them if I needed them I would take them. After a call from a doctor she told me from the last set of blood results my cholesterol was fine, oddly really good but they were a while ago so sent me a link to book another blood test, came back decent again. Great. How many people who don't need them have been put on them and at what cost.
I'm all for correctly prescribed medications, they are a wonder of the modern world however putting people on them who don't need them seems to not be progress to me and an example where I guess an AI has been employed with defined parameters to tell everyone over 40 they need medicating then losing all that saved time by people like me asking to see the workings out
I am being continually hounded by my GPs surgery. I’ve filled in at least 3 forms asking about my physical health this year - same last year. As far as I’m aware I only have bipolar disorder and arthritis. My BMI, BP are normal. I’ve never smoked and I don’t drink much (except during match threads). I’ve been sent messages saying I must have a blood test or I won’t get my medication. I have the tests.
This morning I get a text saying to phone up and make an appointment for a HOME VISIT for my physical health check. Really???? I’m 61 and could run to the surgery.
Me and a lot of my friends got texts recently about being put on statins. Fair enough, they must have some data-based information like, ya know, test results to enable them to make that decision. So I phoned them up to make sure it wasn't a mistake, nope, no mistake. They were going to blindly prescribe me statins. I argued the toss and told them if I needed them I would take them. After a call from a doctor she told me from the last set of blood results my cholesterol was fine, oddly really good but they were a while ago so sent me a link to book another blood test, came back decent again. Great. How many people who don't need them have been put on them and at what cost.
I'm all for correctly prescribed medications, they are a wonder of the modern world however putting people on them who don't need them seems to not be progress to me and an example where I guess an AI has been employed with defined parameters to tell everyone over 40 they need medicating then losing all that saved time by people like me asking to see the workings out
That’s pretty shocking tbh.
Thing is, I am broadly in favour of using data and subsequently AI especially in healthcare however there has to be a distinction between data and information.
I can imagine a load of people who are already season-ticket holders at GP surgeries and they do exist, hypochondriacs. Now gladly taking medication they don't need to be taking all the while a service somewhere else gets cut
Easy peelers from Sainsburys, absolutely no need for then and they are tasteless. And the tasteless bit I would extend to a lot of our supermarket fruit & veg. They all look the right shape colour and size but lack the important taste factor. I think they are obviously imported unripe. The Europeans must have a chuckle when they crate up their produce and ship it off to us.
We gave up buying supermarket fruit and vegetables last year, the quality was/is crap
We buy from a local farm shop now, more expensive but the quality is far superior plus you pick it out yourself, it’s not concealed in bags
Did the same with meat, we use a local butcher now
Easy peelers from Sainsburys, absolutely no need for then and they are tasteless. And the tasteless bit I would extend to a lot of our supermarket fruit & veg. They all look the right shape colour and size but lack the important taste factor. I think they are obviously imported unripe. The Europeans must have a chuckle when they crate up their produce and ship it off to us.
We gave up buying supermarket fruit and vegetables last year, the quality was/is crap
We buy from a local farm shop now, more expensive but the quality is far superior plus you pick it out yourself, it’s not concealed in bags
Did the same with meat, we use a local butcher now
I gave that a go and stuck with it for a long time. For some reason the farm shop wasn't selling much if the stuff that came from its farm. The cherries, that I assumed came from the cherry orchard I could see were imported as was most of the fruit and veg. The eggs, that I had assumed came from the hens running around the place. Nope, bought at smithfields market
The quality was better than supermarket and I had no problem paying a bit more for quality but as regards the butchers, its really hard to find one that sells genuinely traceable, quality meet. Stuff that isnt full of saline, antibiotics, has only eaten grass (or corn for the chooks) i don't mind paying for it but it has to be good (that's what she said )
The One Show; more vanilla than Vanilla Ice eating vanilla sponge wearing a George ASDA vanilla tracksuit.
They have great guests, but the style and production are A+++++ dishwater. I'd rather spend 30 minutes listening to paint dry.
Its the same for so much stuff made by ITV and the BBC l, trying so hard not to offend the permanently offended so end up making someone that offends nobody but is utterly shite and forgettable
I disagree, I think it's because the vast majority of people are exactly as PopIcon says - vanilla. It's not the apparently offended complaining, it's the terminally dull switching off if anything at all ouside their tiny sphere of interest pops up. If it's not "reality" TV, top ten music, premier league football, uggs, sliders, crocs, shit lager, grey jogging bottoms and hoodies or fucking Greggs, they are not interested...
Maybe and there is something to be said for an overiding dullness of the nation and I use our disgracefully bland crisp stock choices as a data sample
Plain!, Salt and vinegar, cheese and onion
The Europeans laugh at our dull selection of savoury snacks and I don't blame them
And I make you right given the success of the X factor, anything with ant & dec on, I'm a celebrity get me out of here. Dull, dull, dull
Do they? When I come to England, I love the variety of flavours. Which Europeans are these? Thanks to immigration from Asian countries I find a great mix of different flavours in England.
When I first came to France in 2003 I swear that there were only plain crisps available.
Correct - The UK historically led the way in crisp flavours, not just in breadth of range but also in experimentation.
Any visitor to the continent in the 70's and 80's would have been met by a wall of 2 flavours - with or without salt, whilst in the UK we were eating Worcester Sauce, Pickled Onion and Hedgehog.
The rest of the world has caught up thanks to the globalisation of the leading manufacturer (Pepsico / Lays / Walkers), which has to a large extent been built on the history of innovation in the UK snacking industry. The Americans wont like it, but we led them as well.
Easy peelers from Sainsburys, absolutely no need for then and they are tasteless. And the tasteless bit I would extend to a lot of our supermarket fruit & veg. They all look the right shape colour and size but lack the important taste factor. I think they are obviously imported unripe. The Europeans must have a chuckle when they crate up their produce and ship it off to us.
We gave up buying supermarket fruit and vegetables last year, the quality was/is crap
We buy from a local farm shop now, more expensive but the quality is far superior plus you pick it out yourself, it’s not concealed in bags
Did the same with meat, we use a local butcher now
I gave that a go and stuck with it for a long time. For some reason the farm shop wasn't selling much if the stuff that came from its farm. The cherries, that I assumed came from the cherry orchard I could see were imported as was most of the fruit and veg. The eggs, that I had assumed came from the hens running around the place. Nope, bought at smithfields market
The quality was better than supermarket and I had no problem paying a bit more for quality but as regards the butchers, its really hard to find one that sells genuinely traceable, quality meet. Stuff that isnt full of saline, antibiotics, has only eaten grass (or corn for the chooks) i don't mind paying for it but it has to be good (that's what she said )
Cherries are one of my favorites. Last month on the A21 going down to Pembury in the lay-by was a stall selling cherries. These road side stalls give the impression that what they are selling is local. No way is that possible at this time of year. Added to that who in their right mind would buy car fume fruit? Fruit and veg generally tastes better when it has had time to ripen on the plant rather than pulled from cold storage and then encouraged to ripen. Back in the late 80's while on holiday in the far east I had pineapple one evening. It blew me away how good it was, so sweet, soft and juicy, I had never had anything like it. Being a child of the 60's anything as exotic as a pineapple nearly always came from a can and when it was "fresh", normally hard, stringy and swimming in sugary syrup. On holiday anywhere in southern Europe the citrus fruit, peaches and nectarines are so full of flavour and juice its best to wear a bib when eating. Kent is known as a place that grows exceptional fruit, its cherries, apples and pears are as good anywhere. The Victoria plum season will be here in a few weeks and there is no finer plum in the world.
Easy peelers from Sainsburys, absolutely no need for then and they are tasteless. And the tasteless bit I would extend to a lot of our supermarket fruit & veg. They all look the right shape colour and size but lack the important taste factor. I think they are obviously imported unripe. The Europeans must have a chuckle when they crate up their produce and ship it off to us.
We gave up buying supermarket fruit and vegetables last year, the quality was/is crap
We buy from a local farm shop now, more expensive but the quality is far superior plus you pick it out yourself, it’s not concealed in bags
Did the same with meat, we use a local butcher now
I gave that a go and stuck with it for a long time. For some reason the farm shop wasn't selling much if the stuff that came from its farm. The cherries, that I assumed came from the cherry orchard I could see were imported as was most of the fruit and veg. The eggs, that I had assumed came from the hens running around the place. Nope, bought at smithfields market
The quality was better than supermarket and I had no problem paying a bit more for quality but as regards the butchers, its really hard to find one that sells genuinely traceable, quality meet. Stuff that isnt full of saline, antibiotics, has only eaten grass (or corn for the chooks) i don't mind paying for it but it has to be good (that's what she said )
Cherries are one of my favorites. Last month on the A21 going down to Pembury in the lay-by was a stall selling cherries. These road side stalls give the impression that what they are selling is local. No way is that possible at this time of year. Added to that who in their right mind would buy car fume fruit? Fruit and veg generally tastes better when it has had time to ripen on the plant rather than pulled from cold storage and then encouraged to ripen. Back in the late 80's while on holiday in the far east I had pineapple one evening. It blew me away how good it was, so sweet, soft and juicy, I had never had anything like it. Being a child of the 60's anything as exotic as a pineapple nearly always came from a can and when it was "fresh", normally hard, stringy and swimming in sugary syrup. On holiday anywhere in southern Europe the citrus fruit, peaches and nectarines are so full of flavour and juice its best to wear a bib when eating. Kent is known as a place that grows exceptional fruit, its cherries, apples and pears are as good anywhere. The Victoria plum season will be here in a few weeks and there is no finer plum in the world.
The cherries I bought earlier this week from a stall in the foyer of Maidstone Hospital, were Kent cherries, which are in season now. They looked plump and were juicy, but tasted very sour, though having had Covid for the first time in May, my sense of taste has definitely changed, so it might have been me.
I agree that there is nothing like English Victoria plums, they are the best.
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When I first came to France in 2003 I swear that there were only plain crisps available.
I'm all for correctly prescribed medications, they are a wonder of the modern world however putting people on them who don't need them seems to not be progress to me and an example where I guess an AI has been employed with defined parameters to tell everyone over 40 they need medicating then losing all that saved time by people like me asking to see the workings out
I can imagine a load of people who are already season-ticket holders at GP surgeries and they do exist, hypochondriacs. Now gladly taking medication they don't need to be taking all the while a service somewhere else gets cut
We buy from a local farm shop now, more expensive but the quality is far superior plus you pick it out yourself, it’s not concealed in bags
Did the same with meat, we use a local butcher now
The quality was better than supermarket and I had no problem paying a bit more for quality but as regards the butchers, its really hard to find one that sells genuinely traceable, quality meet. Stuff that isnt full of saline, antibiotics, has only eaten grass (or corn for the chooks) i don't mind paying for it but it has to be good (that's what she said )
Any visitor to the continent in the 70's and 80's would have been met by a wall of 2 flavours - with or without salt, whilst in the UK we were eating Worcester Sauce, Pickled Onion and Hedgehog.
The rest of the world has caught up thanks to the globalisation of the leading manufacturer (Pepsico / Lays / Walkers), which has to a large extent been built on the history of innovation in the UK snacking industry. The Americans wont like it, but we led them as well.
This is an interesting read
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/dec/02/the-weird-secretive-world-of-crisp-flavours
Fruit and veg generally tastes better when it has had time to ripen on the plant rather than pulled from cold storage and then encouraged to ripen. Back in the late 80's while on holiday in the far east I had pineapple one evening. It blew me away how good it was, so sweet, soft and juicy, I had never had anything like it. Being a child of the 60's anything as exotic as a pineapple nearly always came from a can and when it was "fresh", normally hard, stringy and swimming in sugary syrup. On holiday anywhere in southern Europe the citrus fruit, peaches and nectarines are so full of flavour and juice its best to wear a bib when eating.
Kent is known as a place that grows exceptional fruit, its cherries, apples and pears are as good anywhere. The Victoria plum season will be here in a few weeks and there is no finer plum in the world.
I agree that there is nothing like English Victoria plums, they are the best.