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  • Raw was a mess. I've only started watching since Netflix took it so don't know if it's always this bad.

    New day must have had one fight since winning at Mania 

    Now everyone is going after Gunthers title which they seem to have ignored since Mania.

    Kross attacking Zayn but then doesn't appear in the main event

    It all seems a mess booking wise 
    It started getting bad when they moved to Netflix!

    They should have done more with heel new day, I can't remember a proper storyline they were in. They would just cut heel promos to the live crowd each week, boring!

    Gunther recently beat Jey for the title, it's been used pretty well in fairness.

    They should have Bron and Bronson talk on the mic. The stable should be used to bring them up to Seth's level, instead they appears as lankies to a wrestler who is getting very stale.
  • Raw was a mess. I've only started watching since Netflix took it so don't know if it's always this bad.

    New day must have had one fight since winning at Mania 

    Now everyone is going after Gunthers title which they seem to have ignored since Mania.

    Kross attacking Zayn but then doesn't appear in the main event

    It all seems a mess booking wise 
    It started getting bad when they moved to Netflix!

    They should have done more with heel new day, I can't remember a proper storyline they were in. They would just cut heel promos to the live crowd each week, boring!

    Gunther recently beat Jey for the title, it's been used pretty well in fairness.

    They should have Bron and Bronson talk on the mic. The stable should be used to bring them up to Seth's level, instead they appears as lankies to a wrestler who is getting very stale.
    Yeah that's another one I had high hopes for at first. Bronson was starting to feel really special before his injury and Bron always felt that way. I'm less interested in both of them now. 

    Instead of decent mic time Bronson's reduced to saying "what's the plan boss?!" While Bron scares away interviewers by barking at them (I guess he's actually a literal dog now?) on smackdown.
  • They can both do decent promos, and the dog barking is over (more so due to Bron's father than Bron himself). Bronson did an advert for Godzilla or something of that ilk and it looked like a pro was doing the read. The NWO (if you think run ins are bad now!) used to pass the mic about, they should do the same here. 
  • Current ‘corporate’ WWE was summed up well on Wrestlemania night 1 when it became evident that the War Raiders were only in a title match solely because they could be dressed up as ‘Clash of Clan’ characters to fit with a sponsorship. 
  • They can both do decent promos, and the dog barking is over (more so due to Bron's father than Bron himself). Bronson did an advert for Godzilla or something of that ilk and it looked like a pro was doing the read. The NWO (if you think run ins are bad now!) used to pass the mic about, they should do the same here. 
    I don't mind the in ring barking, but it's this kind of stuff that has me rolling my eyes:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/lTMyoij7cbw
  • Mr. Happy said:
    They can both do decent promos, and the dog barking is over (more so due to Bron's father than Bron himself). Bronson did an advert for Godzilla or something of that ilk and it looked like a pro was doing the read. The NWO (if you think run ins are bad now!) used to pass the mic about, they should do the same here. 
    I don't mind the in ring barking, but it's this kind of stuff that has me rolling my eyes:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/lTMyoij7cbw
    Cringe!
  • Each to their own but I liked that 😂

    I think the whole wild dog thing suits Bron for now
  • cafctom said:
    Current ‘corporate’ WWE was summed up well on Wrestlemania night 1 when it became evident that the War Raiders were only in a title match solely because they could be dressed up as ‘Clash of Clan’ characters to fit with a sponsorship. 
    And the crowd reaction they got was as hot as if I'd walked out there with my brother.
  • Always good to stumble across stuff like this:

    https://x.com/WrestleClips/status/1943359157375008964?t=sHYbDPMs337WVujIyvKNGQ&s=19

    Stone Cold in his element. There will never be another Stone Cold.
  • Always good to stumble across stuff like this:

    https://x.com/WrestleClips/status/1943359157375008964?t=sHYbDPMs337WVujIyvKNGQ&s=19

    Stone Cold in his element. There will never be another Stone Cold.
    In many ways it was the perfect storm. Exactly the right character at exactly the right time, that famous 3:16 promo that went viral before going viral was even a thing. Even the fact that he was not even around for that long in wrestling terms, as he never lost any mystique by visibly getting older and creakier like (for instance) Undertaker arguably did by the very end.
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  • thenewbie said:
    Always good to stumble across stuff like this:

    https://x.com/WrestleClips/status/1943359157375008964?t=sHYbDPMs337WVujIyvKNGQ&s=19

    Stone Cold in his element. There will never be another Stone Cold.
    In many ways it was the perfect storm. Exactly the right character at exactly the right time, that famous 3:16 promo that went viral before going viral was even a thing. Even the fact that he was not even around for that long in wrestling terms, as he never lost any mystique by visibly getting older and creakier like (for instance) Undertaker arguably did by the very end.
    Me and my friend were discussing this, we both said he peaked and then left early enough so much so that it protected his character. 

    I agree with him on the walkout over the Brock situation. A draw as big as Stone Cold should never be beaten in such a basic match, there should have been a build up. 

    Undertaker done really well to protect his rep, it's so easy in wrestling to become a joke if you stay around long enough. 
  • This is my favourite Austin promo in WWF. As i said earlier, my Mount Rushmore is Austin, Flair and 2 interchangeable wrestlers.

    https://youtu.be/M7yLbfNywhI?si=_tlrCVHp76qDLMkF

    Also love this, as with the benefit of hindsight he stated how the Monday Night Wars would go just as they had started.

    https://youtu.be/xlN8-Su7RGs?si=IKq6KEN7pdKSq8Zd
  • The quality in 2025 has been overwhelmingly in favour of one company it's not even funny. 

    Great PPV last night and crowning of Hangman and solidifying of Toni Storm. 
  • I suppose you blew your load all over the Swerve, Ospreay, Bucks nonsense then?
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    Saw clips.

    Heavy choreographed Young Bucks /Omega match ✔️

    Moxley in some over the top death match with lots of blood. ✔️

    Still doing the same stuff that doesn't draw. If you're in the minority who likes this then it's the best company ever. It seems they sadly will always remain a niche product. There are people out there who loved CZW and XPW.

    SNME was very meh. Surprised Jessie was back. Seems to be a show used to build up to SummerSlam. 

    Evolution could be decent. Some great matches and a battle royal featuring Niki Bella and some great talent that should have a match. Also Trish has Some how got a title shot. 🤨
  • edited July 13
    sam3110 said:
    I suppose you blew your load all over the Swerve, Ospreay, Bucks nonsense then?
    Enjoy your Uso v Solo matches buddy. Clap along to Jelly Roll and a geriatric Goldberg. 
  • Goldberg is such a unit still for someone who is 58
  • Goldberg is such a unit still for someone who is 58
    Impressive how he was able to take that slap. Would stop a lot of 58 year old's hearts!
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    Goldberg is such a unit still for someone who is 58
    Impressive how he was able to take that slap. Would stop a lot of 58 year old's hearts!
    This is the bar WWE are currently operating at. 

    He looks good with the roids and glad his heart didn't stop! Match quality and entertainment value doesn't matter I guess. 
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  • Goldberg is such a unit still for someone who is 58
    Impressive how he was able to take that slap. Would stop a lot of 58 year old's hearts!
    Imagine if Hogan took one of those 😂

    "Get my wife & kids on the phone brother" 

    On a side note, does anyone collect figures? Saw a fantastic set that Sting posted on his insta the other day.

    https://shop.jazwares.com/products/aew-legacy-of-sting-3-pack?utm_source=meta&utm_medium=organic-social&utm_campaign=vault0709drop&variant=54565708398665&fbclid=PAQ0xDSwLeZHRleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABpwFPxOfY--cadAOk3_aLWGNi-FFmsEkRNIOIYsk5ns4nrbLXWcM4AoCf4msY_aem_kvX9Typ-GySNzsQEAR5VLg
  • No one here is glad that Goldberg had a match. Find someone on Twitter to argue with.
  • Thought All In was really good, although way too long. The main event was an incredible spectacle and it was a huge feet that they had the crowd heavily into it from the beginning to the end after having to digest such a lengthy show. I'd been bored senseless by Moxley for a long time but he really came into his own in the build up and during this match.

    A lot of stories culminating and a lot set up for the future.

    Saw the end of Saturday nights main event too and really hope Seth's knee injury isn't as bad as it looked. Been a shitty time for injuries what with Kevin Owens and looking like Adam Cole likey done too.

    The Goldberg match wasn't as bad I thought it would be, but having home go for that long was a crazy decision (likely due to the Seth match being cut short but, but even so).
  • edited July 13
    I haven't been a massive fan of AEW in the last few years due to the poor story telling but All In was a fantastic show. 
  • Really enjoyed All In, really happy for Hanger who has been my fave AEW wrestler since it began. 
  • sam3110 said:
    I suppose you blew your load all over the Swerve, Ospreay, Bucks nonsense then?
    Enjoy your Uso v Solo matches buddy. Clap along to Jelly Roll and a geriatric Goldberg. 
    Interesting that you pick those...

    Hope you also clap along to The Costco Guys and a geriatric Dustin Rhodes.
  • sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    I suppose you blew your load all over the Swerve, Ospreay, Bucks nonsense then?
    Enjoy your Uso v Solo matches buddy. Clap along to Jelly Roll and a geriatric Goldberg. 
    Interesting that you pick those...

    Hope you also clap along to The Costco Guys and a geriatric Dustin Rhodes.
    Pre show buddy where they belong and Dustin won a final match in his home town for a cheap pop. 

    Jelly roll is paired up with Drew wasting his prime. Which is worse? WWE is a joke propped up with blood money. 
  • I'm not your buddy, pal. 

    "Pre-show" of their biggest show of the year, and on PPV for $50(!) compared to a glorified house show on free TV and YouTube, definitely the same thing.

    You crack one out on though, matey. 
  • edited July 13
    Enjoy heatwave. Or clash in Paris. Or the annual blood money extravaganza. 

    WWE have been poor for a very long time. 

    Jelly roll is currently listed as one of the three main matches at summerslam by the way. How embarrassing. What a waste of Orton and Drew 
  • All In was fantastic. Thought the three main events were excellent. 
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