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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,815
    Live by the sword, die by the sword. As Sangakkara says, Brook might have won the battle with the scoop but that sweep, exposing his stumps as he did to that seamer, had inherently more risk.   
    Critics often talk about this England side not playing the percentages, and that was a perfect example of it.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,817
    Live by the sword, die by the sword. As Sangakkara says, Brook might have won the battle with the scoop but that sweep, exposing his stumps as he did to that seamer, had inherently more risk.   
    At this point in the match you dont try sweeping a medium/ fast pace bowler.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,935
    They persist with Crawley and Duckett purely for their little and large, left and right combination imo.
    It's called trying to fit a theory into a selection process. That will only every work if you pick the right players to do that and if they aren't good enough then you have to pick two batters that can actually bat at Test level. Duckett certainly can. Crawley will only ever do it on benign pitches because his technique is so flawed.
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 146
    edited July 13
    They persist with Crawley and Duckett purely for their little and large, left and right combination imo.
    But that is not good enough. Keep Duckett and get another right hander in. Play Bethell at number 3.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,124
    What's it going to take for Baz and Key to realise that Crawley,Pope and Bashir are major problems 

    Should have spent the Zimbabwe test trying the other options but they used it to stat pad instead. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,817
    Did I read anywhere that Jamie Smith has opened before ?  If so what about dropping Crawley & Pope and have Smith opening, Foakes as 'keeper & Bethel in at 3.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,768
    Did I read anywhere that Jamie Smith has opened before ?  If so what about dropping Crawley & Pope and have Smith opening, Foakes as 'keeper & Bethel in at 3.
    You'd lose a lot of tail end runs with Foakes 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,744
    Did I read anywhere that Jamie Smith has opened before ?  If so what about dropping Crawley & Pope and have Smith opening, Foakes as 'keeper & Bethel in at 3.
    Terrible idea. 

    The strongest part of this England side is our middle order. 
    Root 
    Brooke 
    Stokes 
    Smith.

    That's as good a middle order as there is with 3 of them averaging over 50.

    England can tinker with the top 3 as much as they like until they get it right but under no circumstances would I break up the best middle order in Test cricket  right now.

    Bethell will get his chance at some point as will a couple of others hopefully theycan step up to the job.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,366
    25 byes so far in this innings.  Wouldn't it be awful if India lost by a margin of less than the number of byes the replacement wicket keeper conceded after Pant had proved his fitness by batting? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,768
    Got away with that one there 

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  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,996
    Ha ha Siraj
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,760
    Shit.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,768
    Need at least another 100 here, Woakes and Carse need big innings
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,996
    51 overs bowled at tea. Pathetic. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,817
    51 overs bowled at tea. Pathetic. 
    Perhaps Test cricket needs to change. 90 overs cant be bowled in a day if you have numerous DRS reviews, concussion protocols, ball changes & drink breaks. 

    Or you keep playing past the cut off time until they are. In England you can safely play until gone 8pm on a good summers day. No reason why in this Test match play couldnt carry on past 7pm. Funny because it would have done if we had lost time due to rain, but when it's warm & dry play finishes at 6.30pm . So bonkers rules.

    So....one or the other. But we cant continue as we are.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,768
    I know people will talk about train prices etc but just extend play to start at 10:30. The cooler temperatures might mean they get through an extra over or two too
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,817
    fenaddick said:
    Need at least another 100 here, Woakes and Carse need big innings
    Start of play Stuart Broad said that defending something around 270/280 would be possible. 

    An hour after lunch & one of the Sky commentators was saying 250/260 and India would start getting edgy.

    So yes, at 175 England need at least another 75. Another 100 & we are in the game. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,817
    fenaddick said:
    I know people will talk about train prices etc but just extend play to start at 10:30. The cooler temperatures might mean they get through an extra over or two too
    They did start doing this a few years go. No idea why they stopped tbh. They certainly did after rain delays meant that all the lost overs couldnt be made up. Start at 10.30 & carry on until 7pm if needs be  
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,906
    Did I read anywhere that Jamie Smith has opened before ?  If so what about dropping Crawley & Pope and have Smith opening, Foakes as 'keeper & Bethel in at 3.
    Would you want to move smith up the order when he is doing well lower down?

    rew or cox over foakes for me.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,768
    What I’d give to have a player like Washington on our team 

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,768
    Stokes has got 33 in the second innings of all three matches, fun stat
  • West2003
    West2003 Posts: 389
    Don’t worry everyone, I’m sure Bashir will shake off his injury and spin England to victory 😂🤣😂🤣😂
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,763
    Shot selection today has been awful 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,935
    Did I read anywhere that Jamie Smith has opened before ?  If so what about dropping Crawley & Pope and have Smith opening, Foakes as 'keeper & Bethel in at 3.
    Terrible idea. 

    The strongest part of this England side is our middle order. 
    Root 
    Brooke 
    Stokes 
    Smith.

    That's as good a middle order as there is with 3 of them averaging over 50.

    England can tinker with the top 3 as much as they like until they get it right but under no circumstances would I break up the best middle order in Test cricket  right now.

    Bethell will get his chance at some point as will a couple of others hopefully theycan step up to the job.
    They are the best but there's something disconcerting when three of those are out sweeping/slog sweeping. At what point do they come to the conclusion that exposing the stumps isn't a good idea on this pitch of uneven bounce? In fact, the last six dismissals have all been bowled. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,935
    Did I read anywhere that Jamie Smith has opened before ?  If so what about dropping Crawley & Pope and have Smith opening, Foakes as 'keeper & Bethel in at 3.
    Terrible idea. 

    The strongest part of this England side is our middle order. 
    Root 
    Brooke 
    Stokes 
    Smith.

    That's as good a middle order as there is with 3 of them averaging over 50.

    England can tinker with the top 3 as much as they like until they get it right but under no circumstances would I break up the best middle order in Test cricket  right now.

    Bethell will get his chance at some point as will a couple of others hopefully theycan step up to the job.
    They are the best but there's something disconcerting when three of those are out sweeping/slog sweeping. At what point do they come to the conclusion that exposing the stumps isn't a good idea on this pitch of uneven bounce? In fact, the last six seven dismissals have all been bowled. 
    Edit 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,090
    Let’s hope we bowl at the stumps (not expecting it).
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,768
    If Woakes is given the new ball I will riot 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,768
    fenaddick said:
    If Woakes is given the new ball I will riot 
    Off to get my rioting gear on 
  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 62
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    If Woakes is given the new ball I will riot 
    Off to get my rioting gear on 
    I would have Atkinson to replace him for the next Test.
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,889
    Think that drop will have signalled the end of Woakes’ test career. Been a great servant but past it now