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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,022
    North Lower Neil said:
    tom_k said:
    He must have had a tough life to be 39 and looking like that. Unless he's also lying about his age!
    Give it about 10 years and they'll be on I'm a Celebrity or Big Brother
    Fixed it for you.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,955
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    tom_k said:
    He must have had a tough life to be 39 and looking like that. Unless he's also lying about his age!
    Give it about 10 years and they'll be on I'm a Celebrity or Big Brother
    Fixed it for you.
    Where's the jungle gone?

    "Wasn't me."
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    North Lower Neil said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    tom_k said:
    He must have had a tough life to be 39 and looking like that. Unless he's also lying about his age!
    Give it about 10 years and they'll be on I'm a Celebrity or Big Brother
    Fixed it for you.
    Where's the jungle gone?

    "Wasn't me."
    genuine LOL there from me
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    tom_k said:
    He must have had a tough life to be 39 and looking like that. Unless he's also lying about his age!
    Give it about 10 years and they'll be on I'm a Celebrity or Big Brother
    Fixed it for you.
    The woman who exposed rape gangs v the sycamore gap tree lumberjack in a kangaroo ball eating contest. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,228
    Seems they are even worse than it first seemed.

    Sycamore Gap pair were investigated over homophobic attacks - BBC News
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,630
    Henry Irving said:
    Seems they are even worse than it first seemed.

    Sycamore Gap pair were investigated over homophobic attacks - BBC News
    Weren't me gov. I just happen to have 6 bags of icing sugar on me. Wife's decorating some cakes or somefink. 
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    golfaddick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Seems they are even worse than it first seemed.

    Sycamore Gap pair were investigated over homophobic attacks - BBC News
    Weren't me gov. I just happen to have 6 bags of icing sugar on me. Wife's decorating some cakes or somefink. 
    they wont be having showers for the duration of their spell behind bars!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited May 14
    A couple of Village idiots who are the result of inbreeding would be my guess.

    Carruthers is 32 and looks like an 22 year old who has lived in the woods like a feral dog and Daniel Graham 39 must've had a tough long paper round as he looks like a pensioner. Graham is going to play the Mental health card which is being used by so many to try to stay out of Jail.

    A total insult to many who don't commit crimes when their mental health is at a low level.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,765
    Four years and 3 months in jail for these two scumbags.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,809
    If you haven't seen 28 Years Later, the tree is back in its rightful place, as it could never have been chopped down 
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  • ThreadKiller
    ThreadKiller Posts: 8,620
    It’s a bit shitty what they did, but I think the sentences were extremely harsh
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,971
    I disagree. Think the sentence is probably about right, but in addition I'd have demolished their houses (in the unlikely event they own them)
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,027
    ThreadKiller said:
    It’s a bit shitty what they did, but I think the sentences were extremely harsh
    Yes the sentences are harsh and as a taxpayer, I'm thinking about how much we have to pay out to keep the buggers. That said, I expect vermin like that would probably be doing plenty of other stuff in four years to aggravate their local neighbourhood. Here's hoping that a stiff sentence is enough for them to want to turn their lives around.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,853
    Regarding the Toby Carvery (non)incident mentioned earlier in the thread; tragic stories like this one are part of the reasons why people can take perfectly legitimate, rational and calculated decisions to cut down trees.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gdr4el5vpo

    t's not "murder" to cut down a tree, no matter what some nutters may try and tell you. But it could be negligence and corporate manslaughter if you don't take action when you're told something is unsafe and a terrible incident like that one then occurs. Truly tragic.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,680
    Pair of wankers 
    No sympathy from me 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Stig said:
    ThreadKiller said:
    It’s a bit shitty what they did, but I think the sentences were extremely harsh
    Yes the sentences are harsh and as a taxpayer, I'm thinking about how much we have to pay out to keep the buggers. That said, I expect vermin like that would probably be doing plenty of other stuff in four years to aggravate their local neighbourhood. Here's hoping that a stiff sentence is enough for them to want to turn their lives around.
    You won’t be paying for 4 years, they will be out in 2 or sooner when Labour needs more room in the prisons 
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,852
    Insane sentence in my opinion when you compare it to what many violent offenders get, and I'm appalled at what these morons did. 

    Make them plant trees, ceaselessly, for 4 years. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited July 16
    I think sentences like these have to carry a detterent message. These two idiots are unlikely to do something similar again but now other idiots might think twice or even three times.
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,256
    eaststandmike said:
    Stig said:
    ThreadKiller said:
    It’s a bit shitty what they did, but I think the sentences were extremely harsh
    Yes the sentences are harsh and as a taxpayer, I'm thinking about how much we have to pay out to keep the buggers. That said, I expect vermin like that would probably be doing plenty of other stuff in four years to aggravate their local neighbourhood. Here's hoping that a stiff sentence is enough for them to want to turn their lives around.
    You won’t be paying for 4 years, they will be out in 2 or sooner when Labour needs more room in the prisons 
    So we're doing this as a political discussion?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    eaststandmike said:
    Stig said:
    ThreadKiller said:
    It’s a bit shitty what they did, but I think the sentences were extremely harsh
    Yes the sentences are harsh and as a taxpayer, I'm thinking about how much we have to pay out to keep the buggers. That said, I expect vermin like that would probably be doing plenty of other stuff in four years to aggravate their local neighbourhood. Here's hoping that a stiff sentence is enough for them to want to turn their lives around.
    You won’t be paying for 4 years, they will be out in 2 or sooner when Labour needs more room in the prisons 
    Or do you mean they will be out in 2 as per the actual  guidelines 
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  • stop_shouting
    stop_shouting Posts: 3,680
    Nonces get fines, simpleton vandals get 4 years. Make it make sense. Personally, I would have given them about 1000 hours community service planting trees in the rain. 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    It's a fucking tree

    Meanwhile, youths carrying knives just get warnings/community service
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    MrOneLung said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Stig said:
    ThreadKiller said:
    It’s a bit shitty what they did, but I think the sentences were extremely harsh
    Yes the sentences are harsh and as a taxpayer, I'm thinking about how much we have to pay out to keep the buggers. That said, I expect vermin like that would probably be doing plenty of other stuff in four years to aggravate their local neighbourhood. Here's hoping that a stiff sentence is enough for them to want to turn their lives around.
    You won’t be paying for 4 years, they will be out in 2 or sooner when Labour needs more room in the prisons 
    Or do you mean they will be out in 2 as per the actual  guidelines 
    That’s what I said and I quote “out in 2 or sooner……………..”

    ”or” is the important word 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    ken_shabby said:
    eaststandmike said:
    Stig said:
    ThreadKiller said:
    It’s a bit shitty what they did, but I think the sentences were extremely harsh
    Yes the sentences are harsh and as a taxpayer, I'm thinking about how much we have to pay out to keep the buggers. That said, I expect vermin like that would probably be doing plenty of other stuff in four years to aggravate their local neighbourhood. Here's hoping that a stiff sentence is enough for them to want to turn their lives around.
    You won’t be paying for 4 years, they will be out in 2 or sooner when Labour needs more room in the prisons 
    So we're doing this as a political discussion?
    Do it as you like fella, I was responding to Stigs comment about the tax payers paying to keep these shit staines in prison.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    4 years 3 months is just over the threshold of automatic release after 2 years, its 4 years and under for that to kick in.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    DA9 said:
    4 years 3 months is just over the threshold of automatic release after 2 years, its 4 years and under for that to kick in.
    thanks, Didnt see the 3 months months part earlier in thread, just 4 years mentioned in the quote above mine
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Whilst appalled by their actions and a supporter of climate justice, I don't think the court of public opinion should influence sentencing, and from the reporting, I get the impression that's what's happened here. What next? State sanctioned vigilantism? 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,765
    MrOneLung said:
    It's a fucking tree

    Meanwhile, youths carrying knives just get warnings/community service
    It's more than that, it was an iconic symbol in a UNESCO World Heritage Site, as well as being an important habitat for wildlife. The sentence will hopefully act as a deterrent for other low life scumbags, who think it funny to damage something that has given so much pleasure to many people over the many years it has been there.
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 584
    swordfish said:
    Whilst appalled by their actions and a supporter of climate justice, I don't think the court of public opinion should influence sentencing, and from the reporting, I get the impression that's what's happened here. What next? State sanctioned vigilantism? 
    of course public opinion should influence sentencing if something affronts the country (as long as its within agreed legislated limits), justice must not only be done, but also SEEN to be done. If they had been sentenced to a non- custodial punishment (or short term sentence) there would have been an outcry, the law would be seen to be ineffectual, and there would be no deterrence for future similar situations.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,765
    swordfish said:
    Whilst appalled by their actions and a supporter of climate justice, I don't think the court of public opinion should influence sentencing, and from the reporting, I get the impression that's what's happened here. What next? State sanctioned vigilantism? 
    Judges have to adhere to sentencing guidelines, that is what the judge did in this case.

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