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Deadline Day from Pg.641 - Summer 2025 Charlton Athletic Transfer Rumours

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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,134
    MarcusH26 said:
    Just wondering, would Nathan have been at Brighton the same season they had Joe Bennett on loan? 
    Looks like Nathan Jones was even briefly Caretaker Manager (Dec-Feb) at Brighton in 2014, the season Bennett was on loan there. He then went back to being First Team Coach
    I knew there had to be some crossover. That was the dreadful Sami Hyypia experiment season they had. 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,541
    I have managed to watch all the friendlies live or streamed, there is no way that we are undercooked or under readied fitness wise. There is every chance however that such was the intensity of the cardiovascular training upon their return to training that a couple or few of the older ones picked up calf, thigh or hamstring strains. Nathan’s game is all about spatial closure and man to man press, while he will know that 80%+ of the teams will have more possession in game than us this season, so our fitness and stamina levels would have had to ratchet up a bit from league one level. I think our better than most fitness last season saw us get a lot of late goals in games etc. based on this approach. 

    Berry, Godden and Burke (his general injury proness in mind) would all be likely candidates for strains in the above circumstances imho.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,888
    MarcusH26 said:
    Just wondering, would Nathan have been at Brighton the same season they had Joe Bennett on loan? 
    Yes. Jones said the other day that’s how he knew Bennett and that Bennett had asked to train with us 
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 637
    With regards to Berry if he comes off the bench to change even just one result, then it was worth keeping him
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,324
    With regards to Berry if he comes off the bench to change even just one result, then it was worth keeping him

    Depends.  If we are winning and he changes that to a defeat it wasn't! 🤣
  • CB1
    CB1 Posts: 118
    Are we expecting Knibbs to be announced today? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,888
    From the latest Cawley substack and after a mention of Knibbs

    "But the Welshman was also keen to make the point that some of the transfer fees reported for signings has been wide of the mark.

    “We’d like to bring one, maybe two in,” said Jones. “But definitely one. That is something we’ve not made a secret of.

    “Don’t believe everything you hear by the way, in terms of certain stuff with the spending. But the board have backed what we wanted to do. We have been realistic spenders and spent on assets, people that will get better and do well for this football club. Hopefully, God-willing, they will give us a good season in the Championship."

    So basically, he is saying it's not as much as £3.5m for Knibbs and maybe not as much as reported for Kelman, Apter etc.

    The reported Knibbs fee is £1.8m My guess is he was specifically pouring water on Fabriziio Romano's claim that Kelman was £3.5m rising to £5m as Rich said he hadn't had anyone able to confirm that 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,718
    Knibbs has been reported as 1.8m, Kelman was 3.5m.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,888
    CB1 said:
    Are we expecting Knibbs to be announced today? 
    I would think so, assuming he is as done a deal as people think

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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,134
    Think it's probably all semantics and there's so many add-ons mixed in that make it hard to judge what the upfront fee actually is. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,335
    fenaddick said:
    From the latest Cawley substack and after a mention of Knibbs

    "But the Welshman was also keen to make the point that some of the transfer fees reported for signings has been wide of the mark.

    “We’d like to bring one, maybe two in,” said Jones. “But definitely one. That is something we’ve not made a secret of.

    “Don’t believe everything you hear by the way, in terms of certain stuff with the spending. But the board have backed what we wanted to do. We have been realistic spenders and spent on assets, people that will get better and do well for this football club. Hopefully, God-willing, they will give us a good season in the Championship."

    So basically, he is saying it's not as much as £3.5m for Knibbs and maybe not as much as reported for Kelman, Apter etc.

    The reported Knibbs fee is £1.8m My guess is he was specifically pouring water on Fabriziio Romano's claim that Kelman was £3.5m rising to £5m as Rich said he hadn't had anyone able to confirm that 
    Correct, my mistake 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 740
    CB1 said:
    Are we expecting Knibbs to be announced today? 
    Should be the Reading boss implied that a fee was agreed the day of their Portsmouth game on Saturday. Doesn’t take 3 days to do a medical and media footage 
  • Walkingred
    Walkingred Posts: 99
    I believe Cawley stated £3 mil, Fabrizio and elsewhere seems to go with £3.5 rising to 5, QPR fans are claiming £5 million. I know who I'd veer towards being the most accurate.
  • AddickinBerlin
    AddickinBerlin Posts: 201
    edited July 30
    Sounds like Knibbs is here already. Was listening to Rich Cawley’s pod and during Jones’s tribute to poor Ethan, a trainer in the background is putting the players through their paces. At one point he starts shouting “Come on the Knibbs” or “Harvey Knibbs”. 
  • Walkingred
    Walkingred Posts: 99
    Crazy to think the Kelman deal could be as much as £35 million.
    If he wins the Champions League with us we have to give Richie Wellens the trophy.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    edited July 30
    I have managed to watch all the friendlies live or streamed, there is no way that we are undercooked or under readied fitness wise. There is every chance however that such was the intensity of the cardiovascular training upon their return to training that a couple or few of the older ones picked up calf, thigh or hamstring strains. Nathan’s game is all about spatial closure and man to man press, while he will know that 80%+ of the teams will have more possession in game than us this season, so our fitness and stamina levels would have had to ratchet up a bit from league one level. I think our better than most fitness last season saw us get a lot of late goals in games etc. based on this approach. 

    Berry, Godden and Burke (his general injury proness in mind) would all be likely candidates for strains in the above circumstances imho.

    We can't have it both ways Pav ?

    Either Dr Will Abbott is very skilled in sports science and how to have players reach an optimum level by the first match or he isn't. Even then it takes a few matches to get to prime fitness and with the bigger squad   some don't get any minutes on match days.

    Of course in the videos from Slovenia they were doing runs from day one but not to an excess and if Godden had an issue on the first day of training then maybe underlying problem from last season when he played more minutes at the business end because he was our number one scorer.

    Berry wasn't fit at the end of last season and must be way behind the rest and Burke we know was described as Injury prone at Luton.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,436
    I believe Cawley stated £3 mil, Fabrizio and elsewhere seems to go with £3.5 rising to 5, QPR fans are claiming £5 million. I know who I'd veer towards being the most accurate.

    Fabrizio has 36 million followers on his X page, so he's probably added some gloss to his tweet.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,533
    mendonca said:
    I believe Cawley stated £3 mil, Fabrizio and elsewhere seems to go with £3.5 rising to 5, QPR fans are claiming £5 million. I know who I'd veer towards being the most accurate.

    Fabrizio has 36 million followers on his X page, so he's probably added some gloss to his tweet.
    A way for QPR to get out there that they got a really deal perhaps.

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    After the tragic death of young Ethan I assume the announcement of Knibbs will be ASAP today.
  • fenaddick said:
    From the latest Cawley substack and after a mention of Knibbs

    "But the Welshman was also keen to make the point that some of the transfer fees reported for signings has been wide of the mark.

    “We’d like to bring one, maybe two in,” said Jones. “But definitely one. That is something we’ve not made a secret of.

    “Don’t believe everything you hear by the way, in terms of certain stuff with the spending. But the board have backed what we wanted to do. We have been realistic spenders and spent on assets, people that will get better and do well for this football club. Hopefully, God-willing, they will give us a good season in the Championship."

    So basically, he is saying it's not as much as £3.5m for Knibbs and maybe not as much as reported for Kelman, Apter etc.

    The reported Knibbs fee is £1.8m My guess is he was specifically pouring water on Fabriziio Romano's claim that Kelman was £3.5m rising to £5m as Rich said he hadn't had anyone able to confirm that 
    Agree with this and other figures are likely the same. I'm guessing/heard the figures are correct as a whole package with add on etc but not indicative of what we pay upfront
  • felix_31
    felix_31 Posts: 295
    edited July 30
    What do we think the position of the "maybe one other" will be? 

    I actually think - looking at the size of Ipswich's team last night - we could do with another CB...

    But also we look light at RB/RWB

    and do we have enough cover in the middle of the park - say, if Coventry were to get injured?  
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,888
    felix_31 said:
    What do we think the position of the "maybe one other" will be? 

    I actually think - looking at the size of Ipswich's team last night - we could do with another CB...

    But also we look light at RB/RWB

    and do we have enough cover in the middle of the park - say, if Coventry were to get injured?  
    I think it would be one of the trialists/ a WB
  • felix_31 said:
    What do we think the position of the "maybe one other" will be? 

    I actually think - looking at the size of Ipswich's team last night - we could do with another CB...

    But also we look light at RB/RWB

    and do we have enough cover in the middle of the park - say, if Coventry were to get injured?  
    I think after knibbs any signings will be squad players at best, maybe another LWB/CB
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,034
    felix_31 said:
    What do we think the position of the "maybe one other" will be? 

    I actually think - looking at the size of Ipswich's team last night - we could do with another CB...

    But also we look light at RB/RWB

    and do we have enough cover in the middle of the park - say, if Coventry were to get injured?  
    Maybe someone who can do both, in the style of Ramsay/Bell - to provide cover for both.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,268
    Crazy to think the Kelman deal could be as much as £35 million.
    And yet it still won't come anywhere close to what we paid for our record signing Francis Jeffers
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,716
    felix_31 said:
    What do we think the position of the "maybe one other" will be? 

    I actually think - looking at the size of Ipswich's team last night - we could do with another CB...

    But also we look light at RB/RWB

    and do we have enough cover in the middle of the park - say, if Coventry were to get injured?  
    I think it's just the wing backs where we look light. I'd like a quality RWB but I agree with others that it's likely that we bring in Lembikisa and/or Bennett to cover there.

    With JRC, Coventry, Anderson and Doc in the middle I think we're fine there - believe Knibbs has the physicality to play further back if required as well.        
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,328
    CM and RWB left for me
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,026
    edited July 30
    Crazy to think the Kelman deal could be as much as £35 million.
    When we sell him to Man U next year that is...👍