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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    killerandflash said:
    He had a couple of bad games, but I'm still baffled how Sam Curran can't get into our white ball team. 
    Once you're in with this "clique" you're in. Once you're out, you're out. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Elsewhere Mitchel Starc has retired from international T20 cricket, to concentrate on Test cricket and the 2027 ODI world cup.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,563
    Really odd that a team of players that never plays this format have been so poor. I demand an inquiry
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,427
    A quite appalling performance - feel sorry for the spectators who will have paid ODI prices to watch what will turn out to be not much more than a one sided T20.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,818
    Just tuned in, Looks like South Africa about to bat.

    Must have been a rain delay, good to see play about to get underway.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Addick Addict said:
    killerandflash said:
    He had a couple of bad games, but I'm still baffled how Sam Curran can't get into our white ball team. 
    Once you're in with this "clique" you're in. Once you're out, you're out. 
    Bethell should be back at Warks, trying to get some form with the bat, if he's going to be in the Ashes squad. 

    Sam Curran should be batting at 6, and then captaining us against Ireland.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    killerandflash said:
    Addick Addict said:
    killerandflash said:
    He had a couple of bad games, but I'm still baffled how Sam Curran can't get into our white ball team. 
    Once you're in with this "clique" you're in. Once you're out, you're out. 
    Bethell should be back at Warks, trying to get some form with the bat, if he's going to be in the Ashes squad. 

    Sam Curran should be batting at 6, and then captaining us against Ireland.
    That's not how the ECB work though. 
  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 275
    killerandflash said:
    He had a couple of bad games, but I'm still baffled how Sam Curran can't get into our white ball team. 
    Heard that both him and his brother Tom are dickheads. Same reason Ollie Robinson’s been canned 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,017
    Would rather see James Coles developed than Bethall but feels like Bethall is the can't do anything wrong golden child. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,659
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would rather see James Coles developed than Bethall but feels like Bethall is the can't do anything wrong golden child. 
    Stokes and the management team have identified him as someone they believe will develop into something special. 
    Personally I have my doubts  .
    But as Addick Addict says the lack of proper cricket he has played means he hasn't had the right preparation so far.
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  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,801
    let's hope we let SA bat first on Thursday - ha
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,017
    blackpool72 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would rather see James Coles developed than Bethall but feels like Bethall is the can't do anything wrong golden child. 
    Stokes and the management team have identified him as someone they believe will develop into something special. 
    Personally I have my doubts  .
    But as Addick Addict says the lack of proper cricket he has played means he hasn't had the right preparation so far.
    Yeah Bethall needs to be playing regular cricket for Warwickshire instead of jetting off to the IPL or carrying drinks. 
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    Baker getting absolutely slapped about. He’s gone for 48 off 3 & a half overs!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    23 ball 50 for Markram
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    Make that 56 off 4. Archer has gone for 5 off 3. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,816
    Keeping Baker on feels cruel now.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    edited September 2
    Since the first game that was played in The Hundred, England have had 52 ODI's of which they've won 22 and lost 30.

    That's a shocking record in itself but becomes even more so when one considers that 13 of those victories have come against four of the lowest ranked ODI sides in the world namely Netherlands, Ireland, Bangladesh and West Indies. Against the seven top ranked sides the record becomes W9-L25.

    Full record (W-L)

    Afghanistan (0-2)
    Australia (2-8)
    Bangladesh (3-1)
    India (1-6)
    Ireland (1-0)
    Netherlands (4-0)
    New Zealand (3-2)
    Pakistan (1-0)
    South Africa (2-6)
    Sri Lanka (0-1)
    West Indies (5-4)

    In the 5 years prior to The Hundred, our record was W56-L21. It really isn't rocket science to work out how and why this has happened. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,949
    Sonny Baker 4 overs for 56.
    Worse than a baker's dozen.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,818
    arny23394 said:
    Make that 56 off 4. Archer has gone for 5 off 3. 
    His batting made up for it.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    I blame Brook for bowling Baker from the wrong end. 
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  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,432
    Leuth said:
    As someone who hates The Hundred: good. Hope this happens in every game 
    I hate the Hundred too! What's you reasoning here?

    Why is Surrey's T20 QF on Wednesday not Thurs? Because the next ENG ODI is Thurs?The way ENG are playing they could fit both in on the same day, even with a 1pm start1
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,432
    Addick Addict said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    Why do they keep selecting Bethell? He's clearly not ready. Maybe pick him against Ireland if they want to develop him
    He's been selected as captain for the T20s. He's only had 26 List A innings in his career and 40 First Class innings. The ECB have prevented him all summer from playing either code but then wonder why he doesn't go out there and look the part with him having played nothing but 100/120 ball cricket. Talk about "mismanaged". 
    Looks like the lack of cricket has had a disastrous impact on his game!
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,432
    Addick Addict said:
    killerandflash said:
    He had a couple of bad games, but I'm still baffled how Sam Curran can't get into our white ball team. 
    Once you're in with this "clique" you're in. Once you're out, you're out. 
    ENG players out a lot longer than they are in today!
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,432
    blackpool72 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would rather see James Coles developed than Bethall but feels like Bethall is the can't do anything wrong golden child. 
    Stokes and the management team have identified him as someone they believe will develop into something special. 
    Personally I have my doubts  .
    But as Addick Addict says the lack of proper cricket he has played means he hasn't had the right preparation so far.
    Maybe he needs to prove how good he is in and in form BEFORE he turns out for ENG
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,427
    Not sure what Brook is achieving by keeping Baker on so long. 
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,432
    Isawsummersplay said:
    Not sure what Brook is achieving by keeping Baker on so long. 
    As it is a foregone conclusion, maybe just getting some practice?
  • greenwichred68
    greenwichred68 Posts: 277
    Why cant we find any decent one day players? There must be some decent up and coming youngsters to pick from all the counties we have.Our one day record is abysmal and would rather rip it up and start again.Id rather rebuild and be shit for a few years than keep playing the same players and getting embarrassed.
    We are below Afghanistan in the ranking and have played more games than them.Surely we cant get any worse.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,927
    131-2, got them on the ropes now, tie incoming.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,927
    131-3....
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,927
    Booooo

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