Millwall [H] ticket information

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

paulsturgess said:

MillwallFan said:

JoshrewCAFC said:

MillwallFan said:

jose said:

The only drag is that having been on the receiving end of violence from Millwall fans in the past (the only other time was ironically Luton fans) I will avoid the train and seek a different journey to and from the Valley.
The attendance number isn’t an issue for me, the only issue is trying to get a point or three from the match.

Sorry to hear this.  Can I ask you how long ago that was? Can only say our away crowds are nothing like they was 10 or 20 years ago. I’d be very surprised if there was any trouble around this fixture in a couple of weeks. Of course both clubs still have a ‘risk’ group, and I think they’ve had a few clashes over the years (and I recall some straight going Millwall fans got attacked by some Charlton in a pub at London Bridge a few years back, resulting in prison sentences for the Charlton fans so it can work both ways). But by and large this isn’t a fixtures that gets the hooligan element excited. They’re still about. But very much in the minority these days. And they rarely cause trouble in or around the ground. When it does happen it’s usually miles from the ground and with like minded individuals. I’ve said on here before, I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble in or in the vicinity of the ground at any of our away games and we more often than not will mingle with opposition fans. 

There were some very ugly scenes at the station after our pre-season "friendly" a couple years back. The worst I've ever seen actually. Both sides involved of course.

So I can understand people's nervousness to travel on crowded routes.

Fair enough. I missed that. Shame. I don’t thinks it’s that sort of derby. 

Bizarre perception. I've been to every Charlton Millwall game in the last 30 years including friendlies and there's almost always some kind of agro whether it's in the ground or outside or both, and primarily (albeit not exclusively) instigated by Millwall fans from what I've seen

Maybe I’m being naive, I drive to the vast majority of games I go to so I rarely see what happens at the stations. I can only comment on what Ive seen and I haven’t seen any trouble at any of the Millwall charlton games I’ve been to in recent years. Actually, tell a lie, when you had the bottom tier at The Den a few years back your fans threw a flare on the pitch and a couple of seats, smashed the bogs up and made a half arsed attempt at ‘charging’ the home ends down in the corner. That’s the closest thing I’ve seen to any trouble but it was hardly a return to the bad old days. 

So the ONLY thing close to trouble at this fixture you’ve seen was caused by Charlton. I know you are on here to defend Millwall’s name at any given opportunity. But that’s just nonsense. 

blackpool72 said:

MillwallFan said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

paulsturgess said:

MillwallFan said:

JoshrewCAFC said:

MillwallFan said:

jose said:

The only drag is that having been on the receiving end of violence from Millwall fans in the past (the only other time was ironically Luton fans) I will avoid the train and seek a different journey to and from the Valley.
The attendance number isn’t an issue for me, the only issue is trying to get a point or three from the match.

Sorry to hear this.  Can I ask you how long ago that was? Can only say our away crowds are nothing like they was 10 or 20 years ago. I’d be very surprised if there was any trouble around this fixture in a couple of weeks. Of course both clubs still have a ‘risk’ group, and I think they’ve had a few clashes over the years (and I recall some straight going Millwall fans got attacked by some Charlton in a pub at London Bridge a few years back, resulting in prison sentences for the Charlton fans so it can work both ways). But by and large this isn’t a fixtures that gets the hooligan element excited. They’re still about. But very much in the minority these days. And they rarely cause trouble in or around the ground. When it does happen it’s usually miles from the ground and with like minded individuals. I’ve said on here before, I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble in or in the vicinity of the ground at any of our away games and we more often than not will mingle with opposition fans. 

There were some very ugly scenes at the station after our pre-season "friendly" a couple years back. The worst I've ever seen actually. Both sides involved of course.

So I can understand people's nervousness to travel on crowded routes.

Fair enough. I missed that. Shame. I don’t thinks it’s that sort of derby. 

Bizarre perception. I've been to every Charlton Millwall game in the last 30 years including friendlies and there's almost always some kind of agro whether it's in the ground or outside or both, and primarily (albeit not exclusively) instigated by Millwall fans from what I've seen

Maybe I’m being naive, I drive to the vast majority of games I go to so I rarely see what happens at the stations. I can only comment on what Ive seen and I haven’t seen any trouble at any of the Millwall charlton games I’ve been to in recent years. Actually, tell a lie, when you had the bottom tier at The Den a few years back your fans threw a flare on the pitch and a couple of seats, smashed the bogs up and made a half arsed attempt at ‘charging’ the home ends down in the corner. That’s the closest thing I’ve seen to any trouble but it was hardly a return to the bad old days. 

So the ONLY thing close to trouble at this fixture you’ve seen was caused by Charlton. I know you are on here to defend Millwall’s name at any given opportunity. But that’s just nonsense. 

I’m not saying Millwall fans haven’t been involved in trouble, I’m just telling you what I’ve seen. Although admittedly I haven’t got a train to one of these fixtures in years, so anything happening at the station or in the vicinity of one I would have missed. I’m purely talking about in and around the ground. That’s all I’ve seen yes. 

In a previous post you mentioned some trouble after the game in a pub near Borough market. 
It did indeed end with a couple of Charlton fans going to prison but that's only half the story. 
Before the game the pub was full of Charlton. 
Millwall fan's we're in a pub a few  hundred metres away.
After the game Charlton fans were held back by the police to allow Millwall fans to leave the ground. 
About a dozen or so Millwall fans headed straight to the pub that they new Charlton fans had been using. 
When Charlton fans arrived at the pub a short time later it all kicked off.
Millwall fans came a very poor 2nd. 
This of course could and should have been avoided if the Millwall fans had returned to the pub they had been using earlier instead of heading to the Charlton pub to cause trouble. 

MillwallFan said:

blackpool72 said:

MillwallFan said:

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

MillwallFan said:

paulsturgess said:

MillwallFan said:

JoshrewCAFC said:

MillwallFan said:

jose said:

The only drag is that having been on the receiving end of violence from Millwall fans in the past (the only other time was ironically Luton fans) I will avoid the train and seek a different journey to and from the Valley.
The attendance number isn’t an issue for me, the only issue is trying to get a point or three from the match.

Sorry to hear this.  Can I ask you how long ago that was? Can only say our away crowds are nothing like they was 10 or 20 years ago. I’d be very surprised if there was any trouble around this fixture in a couple of weeks. Of course both clubs still have a ‘risk’ group, and I think they’ve had a few clashes over the years (and I recall some straight going Millwall fans got attacked by some Charlton in a pub at London Bridge a few years back, resulting in prison sentences for the Charlton fans so it can work both ways). But by and large this isn’t a fixtures that gets the hooligan element excited. They’re still about. But very much in the minority these days. And they rarely cause trouble in or around the ground. When it does happen it’s usually miles from the ground and with like minded individuals. I’ve said on here before, I can’t remember the last time I saw trouble in or in the vicinity of the ground at any of our away games and we more often than not will mingle with opposition fans. 

There were some very ugly scenes at the station after our pre-season "friendly" a couple years back. The worst I've ever seen actually. Both sides involved of course.

So I can understand people's nervousness to travel on crowded routes.

Fair enough. I missed that. Shame. I don’t thinks it’s that sort of derby. 

Bizarre perception. I've been to every Charlton Millwall game in the last 30 years including friendlies and there's almost always some kind of agro whether it's in the ground or outside or both, and primarily (albeit not exclusively) instigated by Millwall fans from what I've seen

Maybe I’m being naive, I drive to the vast majority of games I go to so I rarely see what happens at the stations. I can only comment on what Ive seen and I haven’t seen any trouble at any of the Millwall charlton games I’ve been to in recent years. Actually, tell a lie, when you had the bottom tier at The Den a few years back your fans threw a flare on the pitch and a couple of seats, smashed the bogs up and made a half arsed attempt at ‘charging’ the home ends down in the corner. That’s the closest thing I’ve seen to any trouble but it was hardly a return to the bad old days. 

So the ONLY thing close to trouble at this fixture you’ve seen was caused by Charlton. I know you are on here to defend Millwall’s name at any given opportunity. But that’s just nonsense. 

I’m not saying Millwall fans haven’t been involved in trouble, I’m just telling you what I’ve seen. Although admittedly I haven’t got a train to one of these fixtures in years, so anything happening at the station or in the vicinity of one I would have missed. I’m purely talking about in and around the ground. That’s all I’ve seen yes. 

In a previous post you mentioned some trouble after the game in a pub near Borough market. 
It did indeed end with a couple of Charlton fans going to prison but that's only half the story. 
Before the game the pub was full of Charlton. 
Millwall fan's we're in a pub a few  hundred metres away.
After the game Charlton fans were held back by the police to allow Millwall fans to leave the ground. 
About a dozen or so Millwall fans headed straight to the pub that they new Charlton fans had been using. 
When Charlton fans arrived at the pub a short time later it all kicked off.
Millwall fans came a very poor 2nd. 
This of course could and should have been avoided if the Millwall fans had returned to the pub they had been using earlier instead of heading to the Charlton pub to cause trouble. 

Strange to hear though because it’s a well known fact at Millwall that our hooligan element avoid London Bridge and the Borough like the plague these days and have done for over 20 years because it’s got so much CCTV. Back in the day it was a hotspot for trouble but hasn’t been for a very long time. Quite the opposite. That’s why away fans always go to the borough for a pre and post match drink when they play at ours. The borough is always teeming with away fans these days. 

DOUCHER said:

Blackpool's record of events is correct - we were in that pub before the game and i walked past it after on my way to a party in a hotel on the way to waterloo - my wife has worked in the natwest at borough market for over 20 years now, including a lot of saturdays and could tell you a different story about your 'element' avoiding the area 

MillwallFan said:

DOUCHER said:

Blackpool's record of events is correct - we were in that pub before the game and i walked past it after on my way to a party in a hotel on the way to waterloo - my wife has worked in the natwest at borough market for over 20 years now, including a lot of saturdays and could tell you a different story about your 'element' avoiding the area 

Total rubbish. I have a family member who passes through the borough for every single home game (bar midweek games) and he says there’s never any of our ‘hooligan element’ (or whatever you want to call it) around there. For the reasons mentioned above. Apparently London Bridge and the Borough has more CCTV than any other part of London. I don’t know how true that is but it’s certainly well watched as it’s very touristy around there now. Why would our thugs go and cause trouble there knowing they’re going to be filmed and subsequently arrested? Which is exactly what happened to those Charlton fans on the Bunch of Grapes which sort of proves my point. It is the area away fans are advised to go to if they want a pre match pint. So sorry mate, I’ll say it again, total rubbish. 

cafc_se7 said:

MillwallFan said:

DOUCHER said:

Blackpool's record of events is correct - we were in that pub before the game and i walked past it after on my way to a party in a hotel on the way to waterloo - my wife has worked in the natwest at borough market for over 20 years now, including a lot of saturdays and could tell you a different story about your 'element' avoiding the area 

Total rubbish. I have a family member who passes through the borough for every single home game (bar midweek games) and he says there’s never any of our ‘hooligan element’ (or whatever you want to call it) around there. For the reasons mentioned above. Apparently London Bridge and the Borough has more CCTV than any other part of London. I don’t know how true that is but it’s certainly well watched as it’s very touristy around there now. Why would our thugs go and cause trouble there knowing they’re going to be filmed and subsequently arrested? Which is exactly what happened to those Charlton fans on the Bunch of Grapes which sort of proves my point. It is the area away fans are advised to go to if they want a pre match pint. So sorry mate, I’ll say it again, total rubbish. 

So the video the other year where your lot clashed with Pompey at London Bridge, which was an arranged meet, was a myth was it? Or was that not your hooligan element? Maybe it was your ornament collecting element.

MillwallFan said:

DOUCHER said:

Blackpool's record of events is correct - we were in that pub before the game and i walked past it after on my way to a party in a hotel on the way to waterloo - my wife has worked in the natwest at borough market for over 20 years now, including a lot of saturdays and could tell you a different story about your 'element' avoiding the area 

Total rubbish. I have a family member who passes through the borough for every single home game (bar midweek games) and he says there’s never any of our ‘hooligan element’ (or whatever you want to call it) around there. For the reasons mentioned above. Apparently London Bridge and the Borough has more CCTV than any other part of London. I don’t know how true that is but it’s certainly well watched as it’s very touristy around there now. Why would our thugs go and cause trouble there knowing they’re going to be filmed and subsequently arrested? Which is exactly what happened to those Charlton fans on the Bunch of Grapes which sort of proves my point. It is the area away fans are advised to go to if they want a pre match pint. So sorry mate, I’ll say it again, total rubbish. 

So the video the other year where your lot clashed with Pompey at London Bridge, which was an arranged meet, was a myth was it? Or was that not your hooligan element? Maybe it was your ornament collecting element.

bobmunro said:

dickad1 said:

Amuses me how Millwall forums thrive on the hard as f*ck, 'Wall', right wing stuff and are littered with stories glorifying historic skirmishes and worse.  

Yet whenever accused of bad behaviour from the outside, it either never happened or they are the innocent party, victims of an outrageously unjustified reputation and long-term media conspiracy. 

Bless 'em - they are just misunderstood.

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

There's 40k+ scumbags on a terrorist watchlist who no doubt would love to harm/ kill us and our families.  Why football fans are still fighting each other when that exists is beyond me.

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

There's 40k+ scumbags on a terrorist watchlist who no doubt would love to harm/ kill us and our families.  Why football fans are still fighting each other when that exists is beyond me.

dickad1 said:

Amuses me how Millwall forums thrive on the hard as f*ck, 'Wall', right wing stuff and are littered with stories glorifying historic skirmishes and worse.  

Yet whenever accused of bad behaviour from the outside, it either never happened or they are the innocent party, victims of an outrageously unjustified reputation and long-term media conspiracy. 

MillwallFan said:

DOUCHER said:

Blackpool's record of events is correct - we were in that pub before the game and i walked past it after on my way to a party in a hotel on the way to waterloo - my wife has worked in the natwest at borough market for over 20 years now, including a lot of saturdays and could tell you a different story about your 'element' avoiding the area 

Total rubbish. I have a family member who passes through the borough for every single home game (bar midweek games) and he says there’s never any of our ‘hooligan element’ (or whatever you want to call it) around there. For the reasons mentioned above. Apparently London Bridge and the Borough has more CCTV than any other part of London. I don’t know how true that is but it’s certainly well watched as it’s very touristy around there now. Why would our thugs go and cause trouble there knowing they’re going to be filmed and subsequently arrested? Which is exactly what happened to those Charlton fans on the Bunch of Grapes which sort of proves my point. It is the area away fans are advised to go to if they want a pre match pint. So sorry mate, I’ll say it again, total rubbish.