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  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,629
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    What has happened to Welling? I was hoping the drop down a league might allow the club to stabilise somewhat, buy they just seem to be on a permanent nose dive and will end up in the SCEFL at this rate. 
    There's clearly issues behind the scenes but I don't know enough about them to comment. On the pitch, not one player was there last year. That was always going to take time to gel but with a manager in his first job it's looking like it's taking even longer. Going forward Wings look alright but some of the defenders are atrocious. Recruitment issues again with around 25 players signed, about 6 of them leaving already 
    Even given the shocking decision to not send off the Ramsgate player for the tackle and Welling being down to 10 men due to the players reaction, they were awful last night. 
  • CoveredEnd1905
    CoveredEnd1905 Posts: 147
    DaveMehmet said:
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    What has happened to Welling? I was hoping the drop down a league might allow the club to stabilise somewhat, buy they just seem to be on a permanent nose dive and will end up in the SCEFL at this rate. 
    There's clearly issues behind the scenes but I don't know enough about them to comment. On the pitch, not one player was there last year. That was always going to take time to gel but with a manager in his first job it's looking like it's taking even longer. Going forward Wings look alright but some of the defenders are atrocious. Recruitment issues again with around 25 players signed, about 6 of them leaving already 
    Even given the shocking decision to not send off the Ramsgate player for the tackle and Welling being down to 10 men due to the players reaction, they were awful last night. 
    Agreed. If anything they were better after the sending off which says quite a lot
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,003
    It's just a bit sad really, to go from a National league south playoff final in 2019, to the bottom of the Isthmian prem in a few years. 
  • Guardy
    Guardy Posts: 64
    What’s happened to Dartford?
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 693
    Guardy said:
    What’s happened to Dartford?

    It's still there sadly
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,681
    Kap10 said:
    A few years ago a players for Bath City had a horrendous head injury after "smashing" into the hoardings.  Eventually the player "recovered" and returned to playing but I believe soon after had to retire.  Sadly there is a repetition of history and a former Arsenal U21 Billy Vigar is in an induced coma after suffering a head injury during a match for his club Chichester City. 

     https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/ex-arsenal-striker-in-coma-with-brain-injury-after-horrific-head-collision-during-match/ar-AA1N50B5?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68d249f3277b4950969aea908ce3c413&ei=13
    Died apparently. 
    RIP.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/36831234/billy-vigar-dead-ex-arsenal/

    No doubt the savings top level clubs have made from FA cup replays will be finding there way to his family.
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,681
    edited September 25
    Welling finally plan on doing something regarding park end concrete wall.
    Just fucking annoys me all the wealth at the top end, yet lower down you have to go cap in hand for these basic provisions.
    https://wellingunited.com/2025/09/statement-player-safety-at-park-view-road/
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,681
    Wonder if we will hear anything from Arsenal?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,900
    Guardy said:
    What’s happened to Dartford?
    The three playoff teams who stayed down, are currently14th,15th,and 17th


  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,592
    R0TW said:
    Kap10 said:
    A few years ago a players for Bath City had a horrendous head injury after "smashing" into the hoardings.  Eventually the player "recovered" and returned to playing but I believe soon after had to retire.  Sadly there is a repetition of history and a former Arsenal U21 Billy Vigar is in an induced coma after suffering a head injury during a match for his club Chichester City. 

     https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/ex-arsenal-striker-in-coma-with-brain-injury-after-horrific-head-collision-during-match/ar-AA1N50B5?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68d249f3277b4950969aea908ce3c413&ei=13
    Died apparently. 
    RIP.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/36831234/billy-vigar-dead-ex-arsenal/

    No doubt the savings top level clubs have made from FA cup replays will be finding there way to his family.
    I just saw this. Tragic, RIP

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  • CAFCBill
    CAFCBill Posts: 409
    Absolutely awful
  • FremlinsFellow
    FremlinsFellow Posts: 41
    Such sad news 

  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,756
    Sleep tight, Billy.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,097
    edited September 26
    R0TW said:
    Kap10 said:
    A few years ago a players for Bath City had a horrendous head injury after "smashing" into the hoardings.  Eventually the player "recovered" and returned to playing but I believe soon after had to retire.  Sadly there is a repetition of history and a former Arsenal U21 Billy Vigar is in an induced coma after suffering a head injury during a match for his club Chichester City. 

     https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/ex-arsenal-striker-in-coma-with-brain-injury-after-horrific-head-collision-during-match/ar-AA1N50B5?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68d249f3277b4950969aea908ce3c413&ei=13
    Died apparently. 
    RIP.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/36831234/billy-vigar-dead-ex-arsenal/

    No doubt the savings top level clubs have made from FA cup replays will be finding there way to his family.
    Extremely tragic. RIP Billy.

    This incident should lead to immediate reform at non-league stadiums. No club in 2025 should have a concrete wall just a couple of metres from their pitch. 

    This is a wall at the stadium where the poor kid collided and eventually died, i'd love someone at the FA to tell me how that is in any way deemed safe and passes an inspection?



    Visiting teams should refuse to play there (or any other ground with concrete walls/barriers) until it is knocked down.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,507
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    R0TW said:
    Kap10 said:
    A few years ago a players for Bath City had a horrendous head injury after "smashing" into the hoardings.  Eventually the player "recovered" and returned to playing but I believe soon after had to retire.  Sadly there is a repetition of history and a former Arsenal U21 Billy Vigar is in an induced coma after suffering a head injury during a match for his club Chichester City. 

     https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/ex-arsenal-striker-in-coma-with-brain-injury-after-horrific-head-collision-during-match/ar-AA1N50B5?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=68d249f3277b4950969aea908ce3c413&ei=13
    Died apparently. 
    RIP.
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/36831234/billy-vigar-dead-ex-arsenal/

    No doubt the savings top level clubs have made from FA cup replays will be finding there way to his family.
    Extremely tragic. RIP Billy.

    This incident should lead to immediate reform at non-league stadiums. No club in 2025 should have a concrete wall just a couple of metres from their pitch. 

    This is a wall at the stadium where the poor kid collided and eventually died, i'd love someone at the FA to tell me how that is in any way deemed safe and passes an inspection?



    Visiting teams should refuse to play there (or any other ground with concrete walls/barriers) until it is knocked down.
    Exactly. Saw a bloke barged into the block work wall at Beaconsfield FC a few years ago. No long-term harm done that day (the player was carried off though) but the Billy Vigar incident shows how bad it could have been.

    SKY money should be used to put the safest, same barriers around every non-league pitch that doesn't already have them. The Premier League/EFL clubs will just have to pay their players a bit less for a while. 
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,199
    edited September 26
    Hemel Hempstead have got an area that concerns me. They've got a brick wall near the tunnel area and if that's not bad enough, it's not very high so it's not too far fetched to think someone could go flying over it, and the ground behind it is a couple of feet lower down than the pitch. Every time I see it I think it's got multiple ways of hurting someone. Not that I would dare mention it to that particular chairman!!  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,967
    In the biggest shock of the night, Dartford had a player sent off. 
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,592
    Went to Flamingo Park, where I take my daughters Puppy to go swimming. That's more fun than tonight watching Hamlet at Cray Wanderers. 

    A bit of Charlton connection, Alan Pardews project Chris Dickson came on for Cray half way through the first half.

    Hamlet failed to come to grips with the extra bounce of an artificial pitch and were two down after 17 minutes and three down just before half time. Hamlet got one back when they sent ageing Danny Mills on and promptly got one back, but they continued to be pretty useless and Cray eventually running out winners 4-2
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,097
    Kap10 said:
    Went to Flamingo Park, where I take my daughters Puppy to go swimming. That's more fun than tonight watching Hamlet at Cray Wanderers. 

    A bit of Charlton connection, Alan Pardews project Chris Dickson came on for Cray half way through the first half.

    Hamlet failed to come to grips with the extra bounce of an artificial pitch and were two down after 17 minutes and three down just before half time. Hamlet got one back when they sent ageing Danny Mills on and promptly got one back, but they continued to be pretty useless and Cray eventually running out winners 4-2
    This guy seems to play for a different team every season.
  • CoveredEnd1905
    CoveredEnd1905 Posts: 147
    Aveley v Gateshead and Spennymoor v Billericay in a regionalised cup draw. Sounds about right 

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,190
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    Aveley v Gateshead and Spennymoor v Billericay in a regionalised cup draw. Sounds about right 
    That is absolutely ridiculous, surely the midlands should be the furtherst north and south these teams should travel.
    I remember reading the programme when we played away to Halifax in the FA Cup, I saw the table to see Bishops Stortford in the National League North.

  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,097
    edited October 2
    CoveredEnd1905 said:
    Aveley v Gateshead and Spennymoor v Billericay in a regionalised cup draw. Sounds about right 
    The reason is because quite stupidly the draw was done before Aveley and Billericay played their replays. No idea why they couldn't just wait a day or two for the replays.

    What is bizarre though is Aveley's opponents were Halesowen which is near Birmingham, so surely that tie would've made far more sense for the Southern section draw?
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,507
    The FA need an equal amount of teams in each half of the draw. Unless they start regionalising further, then this sort of thing is always possible. 

    Big part of of the enjoyment of cup football is going to places you'd never normally get to. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,003
    Looks like Welling have binned off Martin, was a joke of an appointment

    https://wellingunited.com/2025/10/club-statement-lee-martin/?fbclid=IwdGRjcANLhVRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmsNBwcQ1ol2CcMMBNu1ACkxtzEDZAERzXlE5pvnKcE6ohHlEm3BoYoJQVHy_aem_wKpmZqmT39ndgp_K9PrHYw

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,967
    -10 GD after 10 games is grim.
  • dev
    dev Posts: 37
    FA Youth Cup tonight....

    Erith Town 1-0 Dulwich Hamlet

    Another great win from the Dockers Youth. Have some really great kids on our Pathway scheme.

  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,192
    dev said:
    FA Youth Cup tonight....

    Erith Town 1-0 Dulwich Hamlet

    Another great win from the Dockers Youth. Have some really great kids on our Pathway scheme.

    I was there - Hamlet Youth were taught a bit of a lesson. Enjoyable match, though, and a good crowd - a decent night out for a fiver!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,967
    https://x.com/wellingunited/status/1974422468447424918?s=19

    Rod Stringer the second Welling interim this week!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,967
    Must be mad.  At Hadley FC to watch Dartford in the FA Trophy.  To be fair it's fairly close to me, and a new ground also.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,967
    To cap a fairly grim afternoon,  Dartford crash out 2-1. A very poor second half performance,  Hadley being completely on top.
    Dartford look desperately ordinary. 

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