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The one Aussie quick I would fear although he's not got genuine raw pace is Fergus O'Neill. Was absolutely exceptional for Notts in a brief county stintChizz said:
Cummins is suffering from a lumbar bone stress injury sustained earlier this year and has been ruled out of Australia's white-ball series against New Zealand and India in October. Starc had scans following some rib and side pain during the fourth Test against India in January. He's been cleared to play since then. Hazlewood is recovering from a shoulder injury. He plans to play a Sheffield Shield match next month to assess and prove his fitness. Boland is recovering from a knee problem and is likely to play in the Sheffield Shield next month. They have a combined age of almost 150 years.Zulu said:First time for many years that i feel we have a quicker/livelier pace attack than OZ - with us having a perm any 4 from Wood,Archer,Tongue,Carse,Atkinson (Tongue has really impressed me recently) - however, you have the usual triumvirate of Cummins,Starc and Hazlewood with the backup of Boland, who i would suggest are better bowlers but also in their twilight Ashes tour methinks. Dont see them (with the exception of Cummins) along with Lyon in a Ashes tour again
Also believe we have a better batting unit than Oz for once
One thing is for sure, its gonna be a fascinating series.Roll on 21st November.
In addition, Lance Morris has been ruled out of the series. Spencer Johnson has a back injury which will rule him out until at least December. Ben Dwarshuis has dodgy hammies.
For once, we're entering an Ashes series where England has - arguably - the faster, fitter, fresher, younger pace attack than the Aussies, and a greater depth of options, should they get injured.0 -
Nobody can state with 100% certainty but Underwood's strengths were timeless and I'd put money on a prime Underwood being successful in 2025. Not so sure of the other two though.Todds_right_hook said:
Doesn’t mean any of them would be successful in 2025LenGlover said:
The late, great Derek Underwood didn't do badly in Australia and even the likes of Phils Edmonds and Tufnell had their moments.cantersaddick said:It'd an odd one. Not one I'd have done but trying to see some logic to it. Are they thinking along the lines of - spin has played less and less of a part I'm Aus over the last couple years. So adding something with the bat is important. It's too early for Rehan the bowler and the Ausdies would likely go after leg spin. Left armers get destroyed in Aus so that rules out Dawson. So picking on "attributes" they like Bashir because he is tall and creates the right angles with his off spin. Jacks has similar "attributes". He is also an above exceptional fielder so a bonus as sub in the squad who is unlikely to play. If he does play it's potentially in the place of Stokes if he gets injured. They're thinking he cam bowl a lot of overs whilst adding something with the bat and in the field.
Not a selection I'd have made but that's the justification I'm guessing.3 -
I would totally agree. What made Deadly different was that he bowled at medium pace, could land it on a sixpence and always kept the stumps in play. With the added bonus of having Knotty standing up, a keeper that kept to him for the majority of his career for club and country, he was impossible to score off even when the wicket didn't offer much.LenGlover said:
Nobody can state with 100% certainty but Underwood's strengths were timeless and I'd put money on a prime Underwood being successful in 2025. Not so sure of the other two though.Todds_right_hook said:
Doesn’t mean any of them would be successful in 2025LenGlover said:
The late, great Derek Underwood didn't do badly in Australia and even the likes of Phils Edmonds and Tufnell had their moments.cantersaddick said:It'd an odd one. Not one I'd have done but trying to see some logic to it. Are they thinking along the lines of - spin has played less and less of a part I'm Aus over the last couple years. So adding something with the bat is important. It's too early for Rehan the bowler and the Ausdies would likely go after leg spin. Left armers get destroyed in Aus so that rules out Dawson. So picking on "attributes" they like Bashir because he is tall and creates the right angles with his off spin. Jacks has similar "attributes". He is also an above exceptional fielder so a bonus as sub in the squad who is unlikely to play. If he does play it's potentially in the place of Stokes if he gets injured. They're thinking he cam bowl a lot of overs whilst adding something with the bat and in the field.
Not a selection I'd have made but that's the justification I'm guessing.
Different times for sure and whether the modern day sweep/slog sweep might have exposed him more is worth contemplating though that would have been offset by the pace he bowled at and in Australia, of course, that combined with the bounce out there.2 -
If you have TNT - the Pakistan v India T20 Asian Cup final is nicely poised.
Pakistan are 107/1 off 12, India are still the betting favourites.
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Chris Woakes officially retires from international cricket
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Great servant to England and as honest a cricketer as one will find. Hope he enjoys continued success domestically as long as that's not against Kent of course.MarcusH26 said:Chris Woakes officially retires from international cricket4 -
Bit unlucky to have been around at the same time as Anderson and Broad, but 62 Tests, player of the series in an Ashes, and winning both World Cups is a very good career.
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When you look at his record as an England player in all formats, he'll go down as a top player.
WC winner , T20 WC winner, Ashes winner, on all 3 honours boards at Lord's.7 -
Penny for Nathan Gilchrist's thoughts now he's got Woakes,Hannon-Dalby and Bamber to compete with.Addick Addict said:
Great servant to England and as honest a cricketer as one will find. Hope he enjoys continued success domestically as long as that's not against Kent of course.MarcusH26 said:Chris Woakes officially retires from international cricket0 -
Part of a golden period of all rounders, considering games when we could field Stokes, Moeen and Woakes together.0
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Not forgetting that he was part of the rhyming threesome - Stokes, Foakes and Woakes.killerandflash said:Part of a golden period of all rounders, considering games when we could field Stokes, Moeen and Woakes together.0 -
Honestly if we had never had stokes he would’ve been seen as this generation of England players great all rounder. Very underrated with the bat.2
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England Lions squad to tour Australia: Rehan Ahmed, Sonny Baker, Jordan Cox, Matthew Fisher, Emilio Gay, Nathan Gilchrist, Tom Hartley, Tom Haines, Josh Hull, Eddie Jack, Ben Kellaway, Tom Lawes, Ben McKinney, Matthew Revis, James Rew, Thomas Rew, Mitchell Stanley, Asa Tribe.
Lions squad is very interesting. Asa Tribe ,Thomas Rew,Ben Kellaway probably the surprise picks there. Shocked no James Coles.0 -
There was a BBC article about Tribe and Kellaway a couple of days ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cly0ze5zqygo0 -
Didn't realise that the Womens world cup has started today.
Home team India are against Sri Lanka today.
England start their campaign they are against sarf Africa on Friday. be surprised if they make it to the semis after the disastrous series against Australia and their loss to india.0 -
Can't believe Olly Stone isn't in the lions. Its meant to be a shadow squad isn't it?0
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I don't think that's a surprise at all. He was out injured for the first three months of the season but still didn't play a single CC game for Notts who sent him out on loan to Middlesex for one game in September during which he returned 1-103. He will be 32 next week so falls into the "Woakes bracket" of not being part of the next cohort of fast bowlers.cantersaddick said:Can't believe Olly Stone isn't in the lions. Its meant to be a shadow squad isn't it?1 -
Cor India got out of jail there, should have been there for the taking but a few drop catches and the tailenders made the score much better. Reduced to 47 overs because of the rain, Sri Lanka need 271 to win.Karim_myBagheri said:Didn't realise that the Womens world cup has started today.
Home team India are against Sri Lanka today.
England start their campaign they are against sarf Africa on Friday. be surprised if they make it to the semis after the disastrous series against Australia and their loss to india.
Its making me wish I were there though 😫😊0 -
I don't disagree that post this series he won't be in consideration. But the goal should be to win the Ashes. Consider this very realistic scenario: going into the 4th test. Wood has broken down with an injury, Archer has just played back to back and is unlikely to be able to play both the next 2 matches. Carse and Gus have both played all 3, Stokes is struggling to bowl much because of his body. Tongue is a decent option but as we saw against India you're not sure what you're gonna get. Potts offers something different but if we are looking for a proper pace bowling option to at least consider in the squad I'd want Stone as that guy. If he doesn't play then he doesn't play. But ultimately an experienced option for a one off match to help us win the Ashes is key.Addick Addict said:
I don't think that's a surprise at all. He was out injured for the first three months of the season but still didn't play a single CC game for Notts who sent him out on loan to Middlesex for one game in September during which he returned 1-103. He will be 32 next week so falls into the "Woakes bracket" of not being part of the next cohort of fast bowlers.cantersaddick said:Can't believe Olly Stone isn't in the lions. Its meant to be a shadow squad isn't it?0 -
'Experienced option to win an Ashes test' - nah that isnt Olly Stone - bit like saying lets bring on Kelman to help us score some goals.0
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Made a cracking start to the women's World Cup. Reduced SA to 19-4 in just 5.1 overs0
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Smith 3-7. The fact that we've opened with a spinner will warm the cockles of Leuth's heart - two of them bowled playing for spin and the ball just going on with the arm.0
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Smith should have had a 4th wicket but Jones missed a regimental stumping. Next over Sciver-Brunt takes her first wicket and SA are 31-50
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Second wicket for Sciver-Brunt
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48-7!0
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Ecclestone strikes thanks to a catch at slip by Knight. I don't think SA have realised this is a 50 over comp.
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Dean gets Klaas, 60-80
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60-8 (16.5)
Yet another bowled by a spinner (Dean)0 -
Another one, Ecclestone gets Jafta. 60-9Addick Addict said:60-8 (16.5)
Yet another bowled by a spinner (Dean)0 -
Swiftly followed by their top scorer, Jafta, bowled too by Ecclestone. This isn't a minefield but the Saffers have batted appallingly. Jafta made 22 (36) and the rest of the side have 30 between them.
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