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  • If FIFA were to make qualification strictly "fair" by simply putting the 48 highest-ranked countries into the finals based on the rankings at the time of the draw (i.e. now), the numbers would look like:

    26 Europe
    7 Africa
    7 South America
    4 North America
    4 Asia
    0 Oceania

    That looks a bit unbalanced and doesn't achieve the aim of having representation from all continents, so instead let's suggest the qualifiers should be the 42 highest ranked plus 1 country per continent chosen from the local equivalent of the Nations League:

    22 Europe
    8 Africa
    7 South America
    5 North America
    5 Asia
    1 Oceania

    If anything, I'm a bit surprised that there are 4 North American countries in the top 42, I'd have guessed at 2 if I hadn't just looked it up. Asia was slightly surprising as well, but only because I'd forgotten that Iran are ranked quite high. Japan, Australia and South Korea are fairly obvious qualifiers.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,573
    The North American thing is partly because USA/Canada/ Mexico basically always make the latter stages of the Gold Cup, Nations League and will usually qualify for a WC, all of those games carry a higher weighting. Denmark, for example, miss out on some of those points because they won’t make the QF of the Euro’s/the final of the NL as often 
  • cafctom said:
    I shouldn’t have brought up this issue as it’s detracting from my main point. That being, that the system should be devised so that we try to get the best teams into the competition. If Caracao or Jamaica were in a European qualifying group then they would be finishing below second place. If Italy were in their qualifying group then they’d be winning it with 10 men.

    Next year will be the proof of the pudding. Normally I support the underdogs but I’m so pissed off with FIFA that I think it would be funny to see some of these Pot 4 teams getting stuffed 8 or 9-0 in the group stages and show it up for the circus it now sadly really is.
    Representation of all confederations at a World Cup has been in place since 1982. Its not as if what is happening next year is any different than what we've had the past 43 years, with the exception now being that there are more teams involved. 

    And another consideration to be aware of is that the reason we're getting Curacao and Haiti in contention is because the regulars from their confederation (USA, Mexico, Canada) are automatically qualified. Its highly unlikely we'll see either of them at a World Cup again any time soon after this. 
    I'm assuming FIFA will keep expanding the number of teams - 48 is a ludicrous number buf will it stop there?
    64 is a nice round number :)
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,062
    edited November 24
    I was born in Leicester, my mum is Irish, I play as Spain on EA FC, study French, and Ive been on holiday to Cyprus a lot. Who do I qualify for?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,151
    CAFCTrev said:
    I was born in Leicester, my mum is Irish, I play as Spain on EA FC, study French, and Ive been on holiday to Cyprus a lot. Who do I qualify for?
    Assuming you’re a horrifically below average footballer, Scotland? 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,062
    CAFCTrev said:
    I was born in Leicester, my mum is Irish, I play as Spain on EA FC, study French, and Ive been on holiday to Cyprus a lot. Who do I qualify for?
    Assuming you’re a horrifically below average footballer, Scotland? 
    I apply a 10% commission on LOLs gleaned from one of my posts btw...
  • The playoff qualifiers are all going into pot 4 for the draw, which by a staggering coincidence bumps Qatar and Saudi up to pot 3. I'm sure FIFA were as surprised as the rest of us when they realised this was the consequence.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvg84knn2p5o

    I think this means England will want a UEFA country from pot 2 or 3, so as to be protected from the risk of getting a relatively high-ranked opponent from pot 4.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,176
    Toughest possible group is something along the lines of Mexico, Uruguay, Norway, Italy

    Easiest probably Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,176
    Hardest for England probably Uruguay, Ivory Coast and Italy?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,531
    edited November 25
    From BBC Sport: 

    "Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.

    Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year."

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,176
    Toughest possible group is something along the lines of Mexico, Uruguay, Norway, Italy

    Easiest probably Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand
    Unless every group requires a minimum of one UEFA team in which case this isn’t possible. You’d swap NZ with a UEFA minnow like Ireland. :-)
  • Killarahales
    Killarahales Posts: 1,080
    Chunes said:
    From BBC Sport: 

    "Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.

    Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year."
    What a ****ing joke. How much worse can things get with FIFA?
  • CAFCTrev said:
    I was born in Leicester, my mum is Irish, I play as Spain on EA FC, study French, and Ive been on holiday to Cyprus a lot. Who do I qualify for?
    Ireland!
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,085
    cafctom said:
    I shouldn’t have brought up this issue as it’s detracting from my main point. That being, that the system should be devised so that we try to get the best teams into the competition. If Caracao or Jamaica were in a European qualifying group then they would be finishing below second place. If Italy were in their qualifying group then they’d be winning it with 10 men.

    Next year will be the proof of the pudding. Normally I support the underdogs but I’m so pissed off with FIFA that I think it would be funny to see some of these Pot 4 teams getting stuffed 8 or 9-0 in the group stages and show it up for the circus it now sadly really is.
    Representation of all confederations at a World Cup has been in place since 1982. Its not as if what is happening next year is any different than what we've had the past 43 years, with the exception now being that there are more teams involved. 

    And another consideration to be aware of is that the reason we're getting Curacao and Haiti in contention is because the regulars from their confederation (USA, Mexico, Canada) are automatically qualified. Its highly unlikely we'll see either of them at a World Cup again any time soon after this. 
    I'm assuming FIFA will keep expanding the number of teams - 48 is a ludicrous number buf will it stop there?
    64 is a nice round number :)
    I think you mean square number
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,995
    cafctom said:
    I shouldn’t have brought up this issue as it’s detracting from my main point. That being, that the system should be devised so that we try to get the best teams into the competition. If Caracao or Jamaica were in a European qualifying group then they would be finishing below second place. If Italy were in their qualifying group then they’d be winning it with 10 men.

    Next year will be the proof of the pudding. Normally I support the underdogs but I’m so pissed off with FIFA that I think it would be funny to see some of these Pot 4 teams getting stuffed 8 or 9-0 in the group stages and show it up for the circus it now sadly really is.
    Representation of all confederations at a World Cup has been in place since 1982. Its not as if what is happening next year is any different than what we've had the past 43 years, with the exception now being that there are more teams involved. 

    And another consideration to be aware of is that the reason we're getting Curacao and Haiti in contention is because the regulars from their confederation (USA, Mexico, Canada) are automatically qualified. Its highly unlikely we'll see either of them at a World Cup again any time soon after this. 
    I'm assuming FIFA will keep expanding the number of teams - 48 is a ludicrous number buf will it stop there?
    64 is a nice round number :)
    Actually is a square number.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 12,573
    I know it’s a mental statement but I’d prefer a 64 team WC to a 48 team one, the format is neater 
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,484
    Chunes said:
    From BBC Sport: 

    "Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.

    Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year."
    What a ****ing joke. How much worse can things get with FIFA?
    How long have you got? 
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,484
    Chunes said:
    From BBC Sport: 

    "Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.

    Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year."
    Hope he snaps his cruciate falling down the stairs off the plane.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,745
    edited November 25
    FIFA are going to keep the top four Nations (Spain - Argentina - France - England) separated in a tennis style system when the World Cup draw gets made next week - Means that if all four teams win their Groups, they won't be able to face each other until the Semi-Finals at the earliest.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/nov/25/world-cup-2026-draw-tennis-seed-system-spain-argentina-france-england

    Am surprised they've not replaced England (seeing we're 4th)with the United States in that top four, by having the pathway to the Semi-Finals a bit "easier" for one of the main hosts, and so keeping interest alive longer for locals
  • Chunes said:
    From BBC Sport: 

    "Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.

    Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year."
    Ooooh Mr President, can you please speak to FIFA for me so i can play at your World Cup....



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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,176
    FIFA are going to keep the top four Nations (Spain - Argentina - France - England) separated in a tennis style system when the World Cup draw gets made next week - Means that if all four teams win their Groups, they won't be able to face each other until the Semi-Finals at the earliest.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/nov/25/world-cup-2026-draw-tennis-seed-system-spain-argentina-france-england

    Am surprised they've not replaced England (seeing we're 4th)with the United States in that top four, by having the pathway to the Semi-Finals a bit "easier" for one of the main hosts, and so keeping interest alive longer for locals
    That’s a result for us. The World Cup draw simulations I was doing kept sticking us in with France or Spain in a quarter final.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,176
    edited November 26
    Each quarter of the knockout bracket will include the following Group’s winners with only one of Spain, France, England or Argentina ending up in each, as long as they each win their group:

    Q1: E, F, I

    Q2: D (USA), G, H

    Q3: A (Mexico), C, L

    Q4: B (Canada), J, K

    When the draw is made it should become obvious quite quickly which groups England will and will not be drawn into e.g. if Spain are first ball out drawn into Group C, then Group L cannot be France, Argentina or England.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,139
    Chunes said:
    From BBC Sport: 

    "Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.

    Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year."
    What a ****ing joke. How much worse can things get with FIFA?
    How long have you got? 

    Below was posted up on Substack this morning. It’s a screenshot from the official FIFA resale site. $105 tickets being touted now for $1,200!!!  From a piece I read before, I understand that FIFA take a 15% fee from the seller and another 15% from the buyer!  It’s just one huge grift 🤬





  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,300
    Chunes said:
    From BBC Sport: 

    "Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.

    Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year."
    Much as I think old Thornton has had a result here, there are precedents apparently. 

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cvgj9e1782xo
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,300
    Toughest possible group is something along the lines of Mexico, Uruguay, Norway, Italy

    Easiest probably Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand
    Mexico - now there's an underachieving nation. Only made it to the quarter finals twice, both on home soil. Outside Mexico they have only won more than one game at a world cup on four occasions.  
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,484
    Toughest possible group is something along the lines of Mexico, Uruguay, Norway, Italy

    Easiest probably Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand
    Mexico - now there's an underachieving nation. Only made it to the quarter finals twice, both on home soil. Outside Mexico they have only won more than one game at a world cup on four occasions.  
    Yeah and they're almost always brilliant to watch - I'd love then to get to the semis or final one year. My favourite international team along with Japan. Entertaining games. 
  • TelMc32 said:
    Chunes said:
    From BBC Sport: 

    "Cristiano Ronaldo will be able to play for Portugal in their opening game at next summer's World Cup finals despite his red card against the Republic of Ireland.

    Violent conduct normally carries a three-match ban but Ronaldo has had the second and third matches suspended for a year."
    What a ****ing joke. How much worse can things get with FIFA?
    How long have you got? 

    Below was posted up on Substack this morning. It’s a screenshot from the official FIFA resale site. $105 tickets being touted now for $1,200!!!  From a piece I read before, I understand that FIFA take a 15% fee from the seller and another 15% from the buyer!  It’s just one huge grift 🤬





    Why would anyone be buying those before knowing who is actually playing in that game?

    Fair do's if it's Argentina/Messi but you'd be pretty sick if you paid $2,400 and it's Uzbekistan v Haiti.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,305
    FIFA are going to keep the top four Nations (Spain - Argentina - France - England) separated in a tennis style system when the World Cup draw gets made next week - Means that if all four teams win their Groups, they won't be able to face each other until the Semi-Finals at the earliest.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/nov/25/world-cup-2026-draw-tennis-seed-system-spain-argentina-france-england

    Am surprised they've not replaced England (seeing we're 4th)with the United States in that top four, by having the pathway to the Semi-Finals a bit "easier" for one of the main hosts, and so keeping interest alive longer for locals
    So England will get to the semi final, before losing in straight sets to Carlos Alcaraz. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,176
    edited November 28


    Posted by a user on Reddit who ran 1 million World Cup draw simulations.

    England’s most likely Pot 2 opponent: Uruguay / Colombia / Ecuador

    England’s most likely Pot 3 opponent: Paraguay / Panama

    England’s most likely Pot 4 opponent: Iraq / Bolivia / Suriname


  • Posted by a user on Reddit who ran 1 million World Cup draw simulations.

    England’s most likely Pot 2 opponent: Uruguay / Colombia / Ecuador

    England’s most likely Pot 3 opponent: Paraguay / Panama

    England’s most likely Pot 4 opponent: Iraq / Bolivia / Suriname
    How can our most likely Pot 3 opponent be Paraguay then, if our Pot 2 opponent comes from South America