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World Cup 2026 - USA/Canada/Mexico

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  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,987
    edited December 12
    CAFCsayer said:
    Curb_It said:
    Do people you think it is a terrible risk to book flights on the understanding that we top the group if we wanted to go out for a knockout game. Or should you really wait to do that and risk hefty increases?  

    I'm really torn on what to do.  
    I wouldn’t want to do that myself. Round 2 is in Toronto or Atlanta.. miles apart and a 500-600 quid return flight if you had to change destination. 

    Very possible we don’t come top. 

    If you definitively want to go to an England game I’d leave it til the time and try and be all set to react to flights you have eyed up depending on how things go. Pretty confident that would end up less than committing to the wrong city, and almost certainly be less hassle 
    Disagree there, we will walk that group 
    Im not saying we won’t but would you risk a grand on it to get sat 1500 quid back?

    croatia are a good side and beat France in March of this year. They’re ranked 10th in the world. We drew in the group last year with Slovenia and Denmark. 

    It’s very very plausible that Croatia could finish above us so it would be madly naive, especially for anyone with understanding off England football teams fortunes over many decades, to simply assume we will finish top 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,833
    A friend of a friend was stopped from entering the USA a few months back as he gave them his Twitter handle and Insta account and there was anti Trump messages on them.  Nothing threatening or illegal, simply his political views.
    I would be very mindful of your social media accounts comments before committing many £'s to travelling out there.
    Land of the free..
    Not with Trump in charge. I'm seeing lots of people who say that they won't risk travelling to the USA. 
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,297
    With all the negativity around, Im actually just not excited whatsover for the WC.
    im sure it will be fine tho
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,347
    A friend of a friend was stopped from entering the USA a few months back as he gave them his Twitter handle and Insta account and there was anti Trump messages on them.  Nothing threatening or illegal, simply his political views.
    I would be very mindful of your social media accounts comments before committing many £'s to travelling out there.
    I've heard similar.

    I think the questions are a bit like the old entry form, where you had to confess if you were a drug lord or a member of a terrorist organisation.

    I mean, how will they link your handle to your identity if you said you didn't have any social media accounts of note?

    If they could, what would be the point of asking you?
    Last time I went there was a couple of questions about have you been a member of the Nazi party or have you committed an act of moral terpitude. 
  • Five million requests for 2026 World Cup tickets have been made since the latest ticketing phase opened on Thursday, says Fifa - despite growing criticism over their cost.

    Football's world governing body says fans from more than 200 countries have asked for tickets, with the group match between Colombia and Portugal in Miami on 27 June the most sought after.

    https://www.jagonews24.com/en/sports/news/87973


  • Five million requests for 2026 World Cup tickets have been made since the latest ticketing phase opened on Thursday, says Fifa - despite growing criticism over their cost.

    Football's world governing body says fans from more than 200 countries have asked for tickets, with the group match between Colombia and Portugal in Miami on 27 June the most sought after.

    https://www.jagonews24.com/en/sports/news/87973


    Wont help the FA's appeal to FIFA to rethink the ticket prices - Wonder how many of those will be touters, with the plan to sell on for even more
  • iaitch said:
    A friend of a friend was stopped from entering the USA a few months back as he gave them his Twitter handle and Insta account and there was anti Trump messages on them.  Nothing threatening or illegal, simply his political views.
    I would be very mindful of your social media accounts comments before committing many £'s to travelling out there.
    I've heard similar.

    I think the questions are a bit like the old entry form, where you had to confess if you were a drug lord or a member of a terrorist organisation.

    I mean, how will they link your handle to your identity if you said you didn't have any social media accounts of note?

    If they could, what would be the point of asking you?
    Last time I went there was a couple of questions about have you been a member of the Nazi party or have you committed an act of moral terpitude. 

    You have to answer yes to both to gain entry.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,277
    Did Rio get an 18 month ban for missing drug test? 
    Would he had to have declared that on his ESTA?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,478
    edited December 14
    Just done my ticket application. A handful group games and the knockout games up to quarters that might include England (if they win the group). Fingers crossed.
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,987
    Just done my ticket application. A handful group games and the knockout games up to quarters that might include England (if they win the group). Fingers crossed.
    We must meet up if we cross paths in the same city Callum! 

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,108
    Did anyone in the ESTC receive their access codes today?
  • Shag
    Shag Posts: 4,578
    Nope nothing yet 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,229
    edited December 16
    The generosity of FIFA knows no bounds.
     A whopping 400 tickets for each group game will be available for £45. 

    This of course is only made available due to the backlash of the ticket pricing. 
  • Shag
    Shag Posts: 4,578
    Massive gimmick, there’s more top cappers than cheapest tickets available!

  • The generosity of FIFA knows no bounds.
     A whopping 400 tickets for each group game will be available for £45. 

    This of course is only made available due to the backlash of the ticket pricing. 
    Probably all get snapped up by touts and will be on resale sites for $250.
  • The US has just announced a widening of its visa ban. As before there's an exemption for players and coaches travelling to the World Cup, but not for fans. Senegal and Ivory Coast added to the list that already included Iran and Haiti. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,980
    The US has just announced a widening of its visa ban. As before there's an exemption for players and coaches travelling to the World Cup, but not for fans. Senegal and Ivory Coast added to the list that already included Iran and Haiti. 
    Would love it if those four countries pulled out in protest. Obviously won’t happen.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 13,363
    The US has just announced a widening of its visa ban. As before there's an exemption for players and coaches travelling to the World Cup, but not for fans. Senegal and Ivory Coast added to the list that already included Iran and Haiti. 
    Would love it if those four countries pulled out in protest. Obviously won’t happen.
    Problem is I don’t think FIFA would care
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,643
    Would need a huge footballing nation to be banned for it to have any effect, us, France, Spain, Argentina, someone like that
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,833
    The US has just announced a widening of its visa ban. As before there's an exemption for players and coaches travelling to the World Cup, but not for fans. Senegal and Ivory Coast added to the list that already included Iran and Haiti. 
    Perhaps everyone should boycott the Workd Cup. Banning fans is unacceptable and FIFA should take a stand, they won't of course. 

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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,347
    The US has just announced a widening of its visa ban. As before there's an exemption for players and coaches travelling to the World Cup, but not for fans. Senegal and Ivory Coast added to the list that already included Iran and Haiti. 
    Senegal and Ivory Coast should include all their fans as coaches.
  • The US has just announced a widening of its visa ban. As before there's an exemption for players and coaches travelling to the World Cup, but not for fans. Senegal and Ivory Coast added to the list that already included Iran and Haiti. 
    Perhaps everyone should boycott the Workd Cup. Banning fans is unacceptable and FIFA should take a stand, they won't of course. 
    Fans are weak. Four figures for tickets, have to show 5 years of social media posts. Their compliancy has no bounds.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,034
    After much soul searching I've decided that I won't be going to the World Cup in protest at FIFA, the ticket pricing, the breaking up of the game into quarters and many many other things.

    In truth I was never intending to go anyway and have only ever been to two England games in my life, but that shouldn't overshadow my decision to boycott. 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,398
    Shag said:
    Massive gimmick, there’s more top cappers than cheapest tickets available!

    Then again, England have probably the biggest supporter club of any country in the world. The ‘top capper’ issue likely doesn’t apply to many of the other 48 teams. 

    Without this cheaper ticket, it’s likely a lot of countries would have absolutely no representation in the stadiums whatsoever. This isn’t to appease England fans who would likely turn up anyway. 
  • The US has just announced a widening of its visa ban. As before there's an exemption for players and coaches travelling to the World Cup, but not for fans. Senegal and Ivory Coast added to the list that already included Iran and Haiti. 
    No worry, FIFA have laws that will protect against this.  Unless of course there is a financial sacrifice.

    Key Written Laws and Policies
    • FIFA Statutes (Article 4): This is a core part of FIFA's legal framework. Article 4 strictly prohibits discrimination of any kind against a country, private person, or group of people on account of race, ethnic, national or social origin, gender, disability, religion, political opinion, wealth, birth, sexual orientation, or any other reason.

    • FIFA Human Rights Policy: This policy outlines FIFA's commitment to respecting internationally recognized human rights, in accordance with the UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights. It provides a framework for integrating human rights principles across all of FIFA's operations and relationships.

    • FIFA Disciplinary Code: The Disciplinary Code includes tough sanctions for discriminatory behavior. Since the 2019 edition, this has explicitly covered homophobia and racism, allowing for a range of penalties, including fines, match bans, and match forfeiture, as well as the ability for a referee to abandon a match due to discriminatory incidents.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,833
    The US has just announced a widening of its visa ban. As before there's an exemption for players and coaches travelling to the World Cup, but not for fans. Senegal and Ivory Coast added to the list that already included Iran and Haiti. 
    No worry, FIFA have laws that will protect against this.  Unless of course there is a financial sacrifice.

    Key Written Laws and Policies
    • FIFA Statutes (Article 4): This is a core part of FIFA's legal framework. Article 4 strictly prohibits discrimination of any kind against a country, private person, or group of people on account of race, ethnic, national or social origin, gender, disability, religion, political opinion, wealth, birth, sexual orientation, or any other reason.

    • FIFA Human Rights Policy: This policy outlines FIFA's commitment to respecting internationally recognized human rights, in accordance with the UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights. It provides a framework for integrating human rights principles across all of FIFA's operations and relationships.

    • FIFA Disciplinary Code: The Disciplinary Code includes tough sanctions for discriminatory behavior. Since the 2019 edition, this has explicitly covered homophobia and racism, allowing for a range of penalties, including fines, match bans, and match forfeiture, as well as the ability for a referee to abandon a match due to discriminatory incidents.
    Perhaps a ban for the US team should be considered if the USA breaks FIFA rules.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,367
    Just disband FIFA, its too corrupt now... The UEFA Nations need to go it alone with South America and form a new governing body, do that and am sure the other continents will follow suit, as they know no one will give a shit about them.

    Then again, given how those at the top simply care about making as much money as possible, I wouldn't trust any new version of FIFA to get it right either
    I have been saying this for years. I think it would just need the big five in Europe to break away (Spain, Germany, Italy, England and France) and the walls would begin to crumble. If Argentina and Brazil followed the whole house of cards would come tumbling down (forgive the mixed metaphores).  

    Regarding the "pride match", from what I can understand, it was never offically that as far as FIFA are concerned, they had never indicated that any kind of celebration would take place inside the stadium. Seattle had designated it as such because it coincides with the city's pride celebrations.

    I see FIFA's decision to play the Egypt v Iran game there as a clever double whammy. They will say it's not their fault that nothing can take place in the stadium, it's because of the objections of the two nations (even though it appears to fly in the face of their own rules as quoted by Raith), and at the same time appease the orange blob by sticking two fingers up to both people who he and his neanderthal followers hate and a city/state where they voted against him in large numbers.    
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,398
    edited December 17
    The ‘breakaway’ idea sounds good in theory but in practice I wouldn’t see it getting off the ground.

    Regardless of how much FIFA are hated by the hardcore supporters club fans, the vast majority simply don’t care about their shenanigans. That tournament is the absolute holy grail of football around the world. 

    And when it really comes down to it, I don’t even think the dedicated fans would truly buy into an alternative. Look at the Nations League. It’s a great concept, but the majority of fans sat in their armchairs see it as a waste of time because it doesn’t hold the gravitas of what a major tournament brings. They want the World Cup. And not  some new version of it either. They want the one that has the history and lineage of Pele, Maradona, Bobby Moore and Messi.

    And the second reason why the breakaway doesn’t work, is because so many of the smaller nations absolutely love FIFA. That’s where their funding comes from. And that’s why Infantino gets their vote. The football associations of Comoros or Mali aren’t bothered about World Cup tickets being too expensive for fans….but they will love the fact that the major revenues it brings in will partially go to them. And their one vote is just as powerful as the single vote Spain, England, Germany etc have. 

    Really what needs to happen is for millions and millions of fans worldwide to reject what FIFA throws at them, so that we see political change in their organisation. But sadly that just won’t happen when it comes down to it. The World Cup is a precious event that only happens every four years, and will always hold that emotional grip over people so that they open their wallets when it comes down to it. 

    I’m as much a culprit in the fact that I pay my money for tickets, watch the games on TV, buy the merchandise etc. But the practical solution of an alternative I think is beyond reach. Capitalism always wins out, and that’s not just a football/FIFA issue.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,890
    edited December 18
    Shag said:
    Seriously don’t think I’ll bother going 

    tickets prices are just a joke
    official allocations a piss take 
    Games split into 4 1/4s
    VAR for everything 

    let’s suck all the enjoyment out of it

    fuck off fifa
    The world cup died when it was hosted in Qatar.
    For those who went to it, the Qatar World cup was actually pretty decent. Logistically the easiest world cup there will ever be, stadiums all really nice, ticket prices weren't too bad, fans of all countries mingled without any threat of it kicking off like it would at a European world cup. And for those in the UK who weren't there, the matches were all at a suitable time for tv.

    2026 will be a massive ball ache in comparison.
    Glad they had a nice time, shame about workers deaths, the calendar being rearranged to play it in the winter, a non-footballing country bribing Fifa to host it, refusing to supply Kosher food, fans paid to fill stadiums, Grant Wahl's death, human rights violations...
    Absolutely.

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  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,367
    edited December 18
    cafctom said:
    The ‘breakaway’ idea sounds good in theory but in practice I wouldn’t see it getting off the ground.

    Regardless of how much FIFA are hated by the hardcore supporters club fans, the vast majority simply don’t care about their shenanigans. That tournament is the absolute holy grail of football around the world. 

    And when it really comes down to it, I don’t even think the dedicated fans would truly buy into an alternative. Look at the Nations League. It’s a great concept, but the majority of fans sat in their armchairs see it as a waste of time because it doesn’t hold the gravitas of what a major tournament brings. They want the World Cup. And not  some new version of it either. They want the one that has the history and lineage of Pele, Maradona, Bobby Moore and Messi.

    And the second reason why the breakaway doesn’t work, is because so many of the smaller nations absolutely love FIFA. That’s where their funding comes from. And that’s why Infantino gets their vote. The football associations of Comoros or Mali aren’t bothered about World Cup tickets being too expensive for fans….but they will love the fact that the major revenues it brings in will partially go to them. And their one vote is just as powerful as the single vote Spain, England, Germany etc have. 

    Really what needs to happen is for millions and millions of fans worldwide to reject what FIFA throws at them, so that we see political change in their organisation. But sadly that just won’t happen when it comes down to it. The World Cup is a precious event that only happens every four years, and will always hold that emotional grip over people so that they open their wallets when it comes down to it. 

    I’m as much a culprit in the fact that I pay my money for tickets, watch the games on TV, buy the merchandise etc. But the practical solution of an alternative I think is beyond reach. Capitalism always wins out, and that’s not just a football/FIFA issue.
    It would not be seen as a holy grail without the seven nations I mention. Look how people have turned their back on the world's oldest cup competition just because the leading clubs leave a few of their stars out of the starting XI until the semi-finals...

    No need for Mali or East Timor to vote for anything, they won't be involved until they ask to join the new set up. The lineage you mention is kind of the point - all four played for nations that would (in my world) be involved from the start. With the exception of Uruguay all the former winners are in that group.

    I am not talking about setting up an elite alternative, any nation that is currently a FIFA member that wants to join should be allowed in. It will just be run by better, more principled people.   

    As long as financially the new set up mostly mirrors the present one, why would other nations not want to join?