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Things you don't see in cricket - Bairstow being given out LBW for a duck and not reviewing the decision when the ball would have gone over the stumps by a county mile. He was the impact sub too and didn't have to field either.0
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pm me plskinveachyaddick said:
What’s the story there?fenaddick said:We all know why Collingwood is absent it just can’t legally be said. Not replacing him is awful though
Can you give a hint without posting anything you shouldn’t?0 -
The video of Duckett doesn't suggest someone who had been having a few quiet drinks with his family...0
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https://www.icc-cricket.com/tournaments/u19-cricket-worldcup-2026/news/england-name-squad-for-u19-world-cup
Thomas Rew to skipper the U19s at the World Cup
Thomas Rew (Somerset – captain)Farhan Ahmed (Nottinghamshire – vice-captain)Ralphie Albert (Surrey)Ben Dawkins (Kent)Caleb Falconer (Middlesex)Ali Farooq (Leicestershire)Alex French (Surrey)Alex Green (Leicestershire)Luke Hands (Lancashire)Manny Lumsden (Hampshire)Ben Mayes (Hampshire)James Minto (Durham)Isaac Mohammed (Worcestershire)
Joe Moores (Lancashire)Sebastian Morgan (Middlesex)1 -
Are we playing too many international matches ? I wonder how many international games someone like Harry Brooks has played vs Steve Smith or Travis Head this year ?0
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Smith, primarily due to him not being in the Aussie T20 side but also due to injury and illness, has played substantially less than the other two.billysboots said:Are we playing too many international matches ? I wonder how many international games someone like Harry Brooks has played vs Steve Smith or Travis Head this year ?
Brook took part in 37 internationals and Head 29. However, that is offset, to a degree, by Head playing one more Test match plus Head had one more trip abroad too for his country and he elected to take part in the IPL which Brook pulled out of although he was committed to the Hundred.
Key is using Brook as an example but the truth is that he has the heaviest workload in terms of being a fixture for all three of our sides combined. Smith, Carse and Duckett won't be too far off albeit the latter asked for time off from England duty due to "burn out" and might, the way he is currently performing (it's now 20 innings since he scored a 50 in a competitive match for anyone), struggle to justify his place in any of our sides.1 -
Presume someone has made a "Boozeball" joke?MarcusH26 said:Duckett does have previous after the incident with Jimmy in 17-18 when he poured a drink over him.0 -
Landed in Melbourne last night, think it might be hotter in England 😂2
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Ah diddums. Away in Australia for a couple of months getting handsomely paid for it. How terrible. No one asked them to be international cricketers. If you can’t handle it get another job. No sympathy at all.Todds_right_hook said:I am going against the grain here. The squad are away from home for a long time, including being away for Christmas. I’m assuming that wags and kids are likely to be with them but how about parents, siblings, grandparents, cousins, friends. It must be a difficult time of year to be away and as a result, I have no issue with some down time.
the problem is that should more practice games have been arranged pre 1st test and also between tests. If the tour was extended by a couple of weeks to ensure a suitable number of competitive games were played, down time would be less of an issue.
disclaimer: if I’m talking rubbish, it’s because I’ve had a work Christmas lunch washed down with a few pints5 -
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Coldest Christmas in 19 years here!Pelling1993 said:Landed in Melbourne last night, think it might be hotter in England 😂0 -
I understand your perspective, but as someone who has lived 'Down Under' for twenty years, its hard to explain just how much of a spotlight the team is under in Australia during an Ashes. I'd lay a lot of dough that Pat Cummins and Steve Smith could walk down Oxford street, and nobody would bother them, but if Stokes or Root went out and about here, they'd be hassled non-stop, not to mention cop plenty of abuse on the way. The Aussies are taught from an early age that nothing beats thrashing the Pommies, and when the Ashes comes around it really feels like an entire country is lined up against you, which we can only really claim happened once in 2005 for us.LargeAddick said:
Ah diddums. Away in Australia for a couple of months getting handsomely paid for it. How terrible. No one asked them to be international cricketers. If you can’t handle it get another job. No sympathy at all.Todds_right_hook said:I am going against the grain here. The squad are away from home for a long time, including being away for Christmas. I’m assuming that wags and kids are likely to be with them but how about parents, siblings, grandparents, cousins, friends. It must be a difficult time of year to be away and as a result, I have no issue with some down time.
the problem is that should more practice games have been arranged pre 1st test and also between tests. If the tour was extended by a couple of weeks to ensure a suitable number of competitive games were played, down time would be less of an issue.
disclaimer: if I’m talking rubbish, it’s because I’ve had a work Christmas lunch washed down with a few pints
The idea of Noosa (a tiny upmarket seaside town), was to get them out of the spotlight and give them a bit of a break from the cricket. If the series had been level, nobody would be fussed, but as we're losing everything comes under the microscope.
Additionally as a cricketer, there is only so long you can spend in the nets or on the outfield practising, especially when the temperature is in the mid 30s and it gets light at 430am!! There are multiple reasons why we've got wallopped again, a few of the lads getting on the cans isn't one of them!!3 -
Jofra out of the rest of the series , Atkinson in. Bethell in for Pope.0
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So, as feared, Archer wouldn't be capable of playing four let alone five Tests. England's number one spinner looks like he won't play a single game for the series we were told he was being aimed at.Addick Addict said:
All of that is very true on paper except for the fact that at crucial times in the game our batting is likely to implode and it also assumes that our bowling attack will out perform theirs. Australia might opt to bring in Jhye Richardson who took 5-42 in the second innings of the Adelaide Ashes Test in 2021.killerandflash said:
We definitely have a chance of winning a game, as after 3 Tests, some of our players are finally looking like they understand the local conditions, and how to play Test cricket in Australia. The last 2 days in Adelaide, we were genuinely competitive.Addick Addict said:
Only if the Aussies take their foot off the throat which I'm not sure they will. Hazlewood has missed all three, Cummins was injured for the first two, Lyon was left out of the second Test and Khawaja was injured too for that one and Smith was ill for the third, The only person we've had missing is Wood who hasn't taken a Test wicket for 16 months.Lincsaddick said:We've got chance in Melbourne, Lyon and probably Cummins won't be playing
Hazlewood wasn't a big miss for the Aussies, as Boland is so good. Not having Cummins and Lyon at Melbourne will be a big loss for them, as someone like Neser, who's a bit of a pink ball specialist, is unlikely to be anywhere near as effective.
On the subject of selection, our management have the issue as to whether they opt to play "our number one spinner", Bashir and drop Jacks or promote him up the order in place of Pope. Jacks had a gritty innings lasting 137 balls in the second innings but it is clear that he is not going to offer any respite for our quicks with the ball (4 wickets at 61.50 and an economy rate of 4.87).
Archer hasn't played four cricket matches so close together for six years but he will have to be risked if we are to have a chance of winning and then it will be Stokes and probably Tongue plus one from Carse, Atkinson and Potts.
The only positive thing is that the pressure is off and there is very little weight of expectation.0 -
Would love to know what Matty Potts has done so wrong not to even get a chance in this series yet. Would have brought him in for Carse.0
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Not too confident of it happening , but would love to see Bethel have a day out at The MCG . He ‘s got KP’s hairstyle let’s hope he has his talent !1
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The whole series is a shambles.Our batting has been woeful,who do we have that is going to be hard to get out,and make a few runs,on a consistent basis.Look at the Aussies,their middle order,tail enders will get their heads down and stick it out,look at Starc batting he has a better average than most of our top order.Oh for an Alistair Cook or dare I say a Geoffrey Boycott who could patiently see off the bowlers and grind their way to decent score.I feel sorry for the bowlers,never at any stage have they had any sort of score to bowl at,we are getting all out so quickly,they dont even get a proper rest.Rant over,lets hope we can get some pride back in the last two games(dont hold yoyr breath)1
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As stated above who’d have thought Jofra wouldn’t be fit at some stage. Like others the time and effort invested in him was a total waste. Again the rest of us don’t need hindsight to know how shortsighted this was.
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Don’t fully buy the Archer injury this time. With a WC around the corner it makes sense to rest him for two games. Regardless, it was worth the effort to get him to Aus. He’s been our best bowler by a country mile and outperformed a lot of the top order with the bat too2
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He is certainly talented. The concern is his experience. KP was 25, having made his first FC game seven years earlier, when he made his debut and had some 34 Test innings behind him before he played in the Ashes in Australia. Bethell is 22 and has eight innings behind him, having scored 11 runs in two innings against India last season. We shouldn't expect too much of him but that talent and the enthusiasm of youth might just outweigh his inexperience.billysboots said:Not too confident of it happening , but would love to see Bethel have a day out at The MCG . He ‘s got KP’s hairstyle let’s hope he has his talent !0 -
There's a WC round the corner for Starc too. The Aussies are 3-0 up whereas we are trying to avoid the humiliation of a 5-0 drubbing. One suspects that he will play in this one and Cummins will return for him in the final Test.fenaddick said:Don’t fully buy the Archer injury this time. With a WC around the corner it makes sense to rest him for two games. Regardless, it was worth the effort to get him to Aus. He’s been our best bowler by a country mile and outperformed a lot of the top order with the bat too0 -
But Starc doesn't have the same history of injury issues. You have to be sensible with these things, especially when his injuries were started by Root bowling him into the ground in a way the Aussies never would have with Starc.Addick Addict said:
There's a WC round the corner for Starc too. The Aussies are 3-0 up whereas we are trying to avoid the humiliation of a 5-0 drubbing. One suspects that he will play in this one and Cummins will return for him in the final Test.fenaddick said:Don’t fully buy the Archer injury this time. With a WC around the corner it makes sense to rest him for two games. Regardless, it was worth the effort to get him to Aus. He’s been our best bowler by a country mile and outperformed a lot of the top order with the bat too0 -
thought Cummins and Lyon were out for rest of series ?0
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Sorry, I thought Cummins was only going to be rested for the next one. In which case, Starc might end up playing in all of five. Shame for those of us holding betting slips on him being Player of the Series and Australian top wicket taker!MrOneLung said:thought Cummins and Lyon were out for rest of series ?
It also means that three of their first choice bowling attack namely Cummins Hazlewood and Lyon will play a total of 3/15 of the combined appearances they might otherwise have made. And we're still going to be thrashed.0 -
Boland for Hazlewood doesn't weaken them though. He's a top quality bowler at home, who would have had 60 caps in another era. In Australia he's taken 60 wickets at 15.46Addick Addict said:
Sorry, I thought Cummins was only going to be rested for the next one. In which case, Starc might end up playing in all of five. Shame for those of us holding betting slips on him being Player of the Series and Australian top wicket taker!MrOneLung said:thought Cummins and Lyon were out for rest of series ?
It also means that three of their first choice bowling attack namely Cummins Hazlewood and Lyon will play a total of 3/15 of the combined appearances they might otherwise have made. And we're still going to be thrashed.
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He is raw but I would have him at 3 personally. It's not going to ruin him so it's worth it.Addick Addict said:
He is certainly talented. The concern is his experience. KP was 25, having made his first FC game seven years earlier, when he made his debut and had some 34 Test innings behind him before he played in the Ashes in Australia. Bethell is 22 and has eight innings behind him, having scored 11 runs in two innings against India last season. We shouldn't expect too much of him but that talent and the enthusiasm of youth might just outweigh his inexperience.billysboots said:Not too confident of it happening , but would love to see Bethel have a day out at The MCG . He ‘s got KP’s hairstyle let’s hope he has his talent !
Edit: Just seen this is exactly what they have done.
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Does your Christmas spirit extend to Marcus Trescothick, and Jonathan Trott? Flintoff retired early due to mental health issues (according to Google) with stokes having time out for the same reason. How about poor Graham Thorpe? But I’m guessing mental health issues are a working class issue and doesn’t extend to those who are handsomely paid.LargeAddick said:
Ah diddums. Away in Australia for a couple of months getting handsomely paid for it. How terrible. No one asked them to be international cricketers. If you can’t handle it get another job. No sympathy at all.Todds_right_hook said:I am going against the grain here. The squad are away from home for a long time, including being away for Christmas. I’m assuming that wags and kids are likely to be with them but how about parents, siblings, grandparents, cousins, friends. It must be a difficult time of year to be away and as a result, I have no issue with some down time.
the problem is that should more practice games have been arranged pre 1st test and also between tests. If the tour was extended by a couple of weeks to ensure a suitable number of competitive games were played, down time would be less of an issue.
disclaimer: if I’m talking rubbish, it’s because I’ve had a work Christmas lunch washed down with a few pints1 -
Throwing Bethell in at No 3 feels too high for an Ashes debut though. Especially when he's likely to be at the crease in the first couple of overs.
Batting at 5 or 6 IS easier than batting in the top 3, especially in Australia when the ball goes soft after 20 odd overs. Nobody wants to bat at 3 in the England setup, so it seems to be given to the newbie or the batsman not secure of their place.0 -
killerandflash said:Throwing Bethell in at No 3 feels too high for an Ashes debut though. Especially when he's likely to be at the crease in the first couple of overs.
Batting at 5 or 6 IS easier than batting in the top 3, especially in Australia when the ball goes soft after 20 odd overs. Nobody wants to bat at 3 in the England setup, so it seems to be given to the newbie or the batsman not secure of their place.
I see your point and that's the problem with that position as no one can trust our opening batters to do their job and dig in and see their way through those opening overs. Just got to hope that youth and enthusiasm wins the day.
Unless stokes fancies taking responsibility and bats there. Which I doubt would work.0
