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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Sheffield United: Saturday 17th January 2026: KO 15:00

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  • JoshrewCAFC
    JoshrewCAFC Posts: 928
    Just seen the replays. Can't understand their fans reaction to the second red. No way is that getting successfully appealed. Nowhere near winning the ball and led with an elbow.

    Two crazy decisions from their team and we deserved to win as a result of those moments. Disgusting.
  • Just seen the replays. Can't understand their fans reaction to the second red. No way is that getting successfully appealed. Nowhere near winning the ball and led with an elbow.

    Two crazy decisions from their team and we deserved to win as a result of those moments. Disgusting.
    I'd make the argument as well that the ex-Millwall twat deserved a booking for not shutting up when he argued the initial Red Card - So even if he'd been on a booking, it was a deserved second yellow ;)
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,260
    edited January 17
    Mostly turgid in attack, which is nothing new. The team looked off balance, which has been a bit of a problem whenever Edwards or Bell aren’t at left back, but seemed to be exaggerated by how uncomfortable Bree looked on the left and the midfield 3 looking like strangers.

    We seem to have gotten away from what we were doing well at the start of the season, no doubt partly because teams have a plan to counteract us now. The relative lack of quality in our team is also starting to bite a little but once again we worked hard and showed why it’s important to stay in games as you never know what’ll happen. We got a change of luck as Sheff U imploded so it’s a valuable 3 points in the end.

    We’ll need to improve on today’s performance but 18 points from the last 20 games should be enough to keep us up and is very doable. Vital we maximize our return from games against those around us. It’s looking likely to be a lot of one-nils and nil-nils if we are going to get over the line. 

    Finishing 21st will still be a good season. 
  • Worst performance this season, even worse than Southampton. Bizarre united threw it away completely, I’d be livid if I was a blade. You could see Clarke being exasperated by the lack of running etc when we had the ball. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,133
    SOTF said:
    Come on lifers, a little perspective please. We've been on a horrible run for a while and up against a side who for the last 2 months have been on a very good run. Yes we didnt batter them in the 2nd half as we might want us to but we did what we needed to. A win is a win. Points on the board. Away from the scrap at the bottom of the table. Platform from which to build and players coming back from injury/new signings looking promising. 

    Cheer up!!
    Charlton fans: "We CANNOT go back down to League One... It would ruin us"
    Also Charlton fans: "Oh we can't be winning games like that"
    Do you think the performance was good?

    No-one is unhappy with 3 points, but we need another 18-20 for safety. We’ll get nowhere near that number if the first half performance and marginally beating 9 men Sheffield United is the level we’re satisfied with.
    The first 30mins wasn't great, but it was similar vs. Ipswich where we got dominated and weathered the storm
    The fact that Sheffield United had two players sent off isn't our problem
    We then didn't struggle in the second half as others would want to believe, given that we had 3-4 opporuntities to score, including a clearance off the line... We're just not going to be high scorers this season, that was pretty obvious even before this match. We basically played a team who parked the bus, a team who finished 3rd last season, and because of miss-management in the summer, are in a false league position... We've just done the double against that side... Yet for some its not good enough... Jesus!!
    We've also played better than we have done today, most notably against Leicester and we've lost - So the outcome of both games, when you primarily take the performance into account is that it means absolutely f**k all... All that matters is to score more than the opposition... We've done that today... Tuesday we might be better, we might be even worse, who the f**k knows... Its the beauty of Football
    I do think you might sometimes have a different perspective if you had attended. Not meant to be an antagonistic comment just an observation.
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,689
    Pisspoor today. Lucky not to be behind before the first red.

    second half get the goal and a fantastic opportunity to kick on and get another 1 or 2.

    40 minutes of ponderous, arrogant, clueless football followed where we quite easily could have thrown it away. Who the fuck instructs us to keep lumping long balls in when we have 2 extra players? Why didn’t we keep playing short corners so it drags another on of their players out of the area? Honestly, raging with it. 


    A win is a win, but we are seriously going to struggle if we continue to put in performances like that. 
  • Bod
    Bod Posts: 217
    Personally I don't care how we get the points so long as we get the points. It's not our problem if Sheffield United lost their discipline and had two sent off.
    We did what we needed to do. There are games when we deserved more and got less and supposedly these things even out over the course of a season.
    We definitely could have made it more comfortable and helped the goal difference count into the bargain but I am comfortable with the 3 points even if it wasn't comfortable.
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,227
    Worst 1-0 win I have seen -pathetic tactics and inability to pay against 9 men.

    So much wrong 
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,095
    We’ve gone from ‘I’ll take 21st any way possible’ at the start of the season to whining about winning very quickly, well done everyone. We’ve gained ground on Oxford, West Brom and Blackburn today while beating a team who I don’t think we expected to get 6 points off this season all without a functional LWB and missing some key players. I’ll definitely take it. It’s a good day
    A good way of looking at it sure, but as one of the people whining about winning, let me elaborate.

    We play like that against 11 men, we will lose. If we had conceded on a break - remember, Swindon back in 2009 or whenever it was conceded 2 against our 9 men - I didn't see where our impetus would re-emerge from.

    I genuinely think we tried to see it out from minute 50, and it wasn't fun to watch. Add what looks like a bad injury for Knibbs into the mix and it takes a lot of gloss off the three points.

    It was not the standard I would want to see rest of season. I think it was a low point, sure, and things will look better (we were alright against e.g. Coventry for instance), and we will start better XIs, but... that was a *very* low point in terms of actual performance, and we took a game management risk that REALLY could have backfired.
  • Killarahales
    Killarahales Posts: 1,099
    It wasn’t great, but we won, and I’m not feeling as negative as what seems to be the majority on here.
    The ref made two correct decisions and Sheff U got what they deserved. I think we will see the benefit of today’s (midfield) selection on Tuesday; surely Anderson won’t be a starter!
    Was happy with the Dykes and TC substitutions, but why the f*** did NJ take off Miles when a long throw with the oppo keeper up was about to be delivered! I wonder if Ramsay is fully fit?

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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,356
    Still don’t really know what to write. Got the three points which is ultimately the main take home. But we learned a lot from the first 30 mins. We were getting battered and the midfield was non existent.

    Ironically I learned more from that than the second half. We are no good and playing it around our opposition? I think we all knew that.

    So yes it was a shit performance but a good result. And we know we have to be 100 times better on Tuesday to get anything.

    And a word for the decision to take Leaburn off when they had a long throw at the end. Baffling baffling decision.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,117
    Goal came from a Gillesphey ball from half way line nodded down by big striker
  • fattmatt
    fattmatt Posts: 615
    Who did the tunnel jump. Lol
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,895
    fattmatt said:
    Who did the tunnel jump. Lol
    A half-hearted Carey and a bemused Dykes
  • fattmatt said:
    Who did the tunnel jump. Lol
    Carey, jones stormed off so no fist pumps from anyone, you could see the players knew he was hacked off at the crowd 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 837
    fattmatt said:
    Who did the tunnel jump. Lol
    Carey, jones stormed off so no fist pumps from anyone, you could see the players knew he was hacked off at the crowd 
    Was he pissed off at the crowd? Or was it the team performance?, hope was the latter. He was doing his nut at Anderson most of the game.
  • iainambler
    iainambler Posts: 971
    IR94 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Chris Powell comes to mind. Sometimes you have to win ugly. 
    With jones every win is ugly
    Jones didnt even stay and clap the fans today. He is upset with the negativity, it looks like! 
    There’s an easy answer to that. 
    If the team play without passion or conviction, don’t expect much in return. 

  • fattmatt
    fattmatt Posts: 615
    edited January 17
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,312
    Thankfully we scored in the second minute of the second half, the longer it would have gone on without us scoring, the more toxic the place would’ve become.
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,178
    Nathan Jones tries to get us 1-0 up then hold on. We've seen the formula. After showing how bad we were for 35 minutes, I'm more than happy with getting the 1-0 and holding on. United had every man back for most of the 2nd half. We'd basically stopped and they weren't pressing. It's annoying it wasn't more, but I've seen far worse performances in the last few years than that 2nd half, which was just controlled and dull. 
    Kaminski's first save and the goal were both absolute quality.
    And Wilder is a knob for his comments.

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,104
    Writing off the performance as just a bad day (which it absolutely was), results wise that was still actually exactly what we needed it to be. 4 points clear of 21st and Pompey, Blackburn and West Brom all need to get more points than us before we're down in the relegation zone - and while we were terrible today I'd be very surprised if we're consistently THAT bad going forward.
  • I thought it was very important they had the second man sent off, I wouldn't have fancied us 11 V 10.
  • fattmatt said:
    Who did the tunnel jump. Lol
    Carey, jones stormed off so no fist pumps from anyone, you could see the players knew he was hacked off at the crowd 
    What did the crowd do to piss him off? 
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,980
    Midfield performance was awful and like they had never played together before…. Oh hang on.

    Calling for a leader in the second half. Unsure what he has done to be out of the squad.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,754
    First half Sheff Utd started as expected front foot , full of confidence the good thing was we stayed in the game .. i do question NJ team selection in midfield and that caused us issues the whole game .. Anderson ?? the only reason we were in the game at HT was Kaminski… two or three excellent saves and was clear MOM … then the sending offs and the changes …. Don’t think NJ done enough at ht we should have stretched the play but didn’t .. good goal
    from Carey after knock down from Dykes .. but then we got it wrong , don’t get me wrong Sheff Utd never looked like scoring second half but we didn’t go for the kill .. we did not keep procession well enough especially at the back , the crowd did not help and when played the ball forward Sheff Utd coped well which is what they wanted .. Campbell had no one marking him at all and he had so much space and time yet again failed to deliver a killer cross he was poor .. why oh why Apter not playing .. .. we huffed and puffed but it got a little nervous cause it was a massive result .. at the end of the day it was massive 3 points against a team who were in top form .. does not matter how you get it , performance it’s about winning and we did .. we seen it thousands of times that sending offs effects the other team more … but today I think NJ got it badly wrong both in starting line up and at ht with the subs and his game management through the second half
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,716
    That was truly dreadful.  We were completely outplayed vs 11, still looked poor vs 10, and struggled against 9.

    Not just in attack either, when United attacked,  so often we just retreated into the box so that we had 5 defenders marking one attacker, and the 9 men having spare players on the edge of the box. Where we concede so many goals. 

    The slowness of our attacking,  the constant passing backwards when Clarke was in acres of space,  not leaving anyone up when defending set pieces. Yes we were nervous,  but our attacking play was awful. 

    Confusing why we didn't make any subs in the second half until the nonsense introduction of Godden in injury time. We didn't need two right backs out there, as United had to pack the middle of the park. The perfect game to bring Apter on, and rest either Ramsay or Clarke. 

    Anderson isn't a 6. The last place you want him is in front of the defence,  as he gets caught in possession so often.

    Of course I'm happy we won, but that was giftwrapped to us, and we still could have thrown away 2 points. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,874
    edited January 17
    Jonniesta said:
    Nathan Jones tries to get us 1-0 up then hold on. We've seen the formula. After showing how bad we were for 35 minutes, I'm more than happy with getting the 1-0 and holding on. United had every man back for most of the 2nd half. We'd basically stopped and they weren't pressing. It's annoying it wasn't more, but I've seen far worse performances in the last few years than that 2nd half, which was just controlled and dull. 
    Kaminski's first save and the goal were both absolute quality.
    And Wilder is a knob for his comments.
    Somebody who gets it. We are in a relegation struggle and had we not scored early it would have been different I suspect. When we did, there was a better percentage route to winning which was to control the game with a safety first attitude. We are not good enough at scoring goals to take that option over keeping them out. There was not one hairy moment in the second half. Lots of aimless midfield balls are fine if you are winning and there is no pressure on the ball.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,895
    Couldn't understand people screaming for us to get forward faster in the last 10/15 minutes. Did they not realise that Sheff Utd couldn't score without the ball?
    The only way we weren't going to win the game was to needlessly give the ball away and allow them to counter-attack us.
    The only thing that mattered was getting 3 points from a game where we should have been 3 or 4 down after 30 minutes.
    Because at 2-0 against 9 men even we can't fuck that up.

    Can you trust this lot to hold onto the ball and not concede? We were doing our level best to gift them opportunities even with them basically holding station in the second half 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,397
    Sure we got three points and that's the big Brucie bonus. We'd have never got them without their northern over-agression and a referee who was brave enough to give a double red, without later trying to balance things up. 

    We failed monumentally to capitalise on our fortune like we should have. It's unlikely we'll get as good a chance as that all season to improve our goal difference. We blew it spectacularly. It's unlikely we'll get as good a chance as that to actually send the fans home entertained. We blew that spectacularly too. 

    11 v 9, we should have ran them ragged. We should have stretched them all over the place. Instead, we allowed them to sit compact in the middle of the pitch whilst we passed it around at the back.

    Kaminski kept us in it early on. Clarke looked ok, but Ramsay looked like he'd never seen him in his life before. Carey took his chance well and Dyke battled. Other than that though, it was only really TC that had any real urgency about his play. In a team where lots of players have scored rather less than they might have hoped this season, you might have thought they'd be busting a gut to get on the scoresheet. If they were, they sure did a good job of concealing it. And so, we ended up with the customary Charlton nervousness that we might not hold on. Against nine men! No wonder Jones didn't hang around after the match.