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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Sheffield United: Saturday 17th January 2026: KO 15:00
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I thought Clarke did well for a centre-back tasked with being a winger20
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I understand what some (and NJ) are saying about not going for more goals and playing sensibly/defensively but at no stage were we comfortable in that approach, as evidenced by the last minute keeper-up throw in they had. The Leaburn sub at that point was beyond my comprehension of sensibility.
Get the second and then park the bus...a one goal lead is not cushion enough.
If you'd have told me at 14.59 we'd win 1-0 but play shit, I'd have been delighted....but that would've been without witnessing what we did.
Grateful for the three points (which should be all that matters), but the attitude and approach in the second half is more than a little concerning.
As long as we stay up, I give zero shits about how we do it, but that was bordering on idiocy.
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Let’s keep a degree of context. They’re 17th in the Championship and in the last month have lost to West Brom, Wrexham, Mansfield and now Charlton.The Prince-e-Paul said:I think the key point from NJ post match interview, is that he knows just how good Sheff Utd are individually AND as a team.They’ve picked up, but they are no 1970 Brazil.Similarly, Southampton absolutely tearing us apart looks like a complete outliner to their other results and performances.14 -
That is the case. Soumare’s 31st minute effort was classified as a blocked shot, not a shot that hit the woodwork.Desmond Oulu said:
Haven't seen any replays but felt at the time it was deflected onto the post, in which case I presume it would be classified as a blocked shot?swords_alive said:These are the half time stats from fotmob i was sent. Not sure how reliable a souce they are. Sheff U did hit the woodwork and that isn't there. Lots of zeros for us obviously, tells the story.
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They have also scored 14 in their last 5 games before today - So they carry a goal threat.AFKABartram said:
Let’s keep a degree of context. They’re 17th in the Championship and in the last month have lost to West Brom, Wrexham, Mansfield and now Charlton.The Prince-e-Paul said:I think the key point from NJ post match interview, is that he knows just how good Sheff Utd are individually AND as a team.They’ve picked up, but they are no 1970 Brazil.Similarly, Southampton absolutely tearing us apart looks like a complete outliner to their other results and performances.6 -
Seeing the amount of Sheff Utd fans thinking that one, or even both, of those red cards were not correctly given only makes me feel sorry for referees. What chance have they got when fans have such blinkers on?27
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Love the options up top all of a sudden, miles/kelman
dykes/godden etc8 -
Yeah they’ve won 7 of their last 10 league games before today…Dazzler21 said:
They have also scored 14 in their last 5 games before today - So they carry a goal threat.AFKABartram said:
Let’s keep a degree of context. They’re 17th in the Championship and in the last month have lost to West Brom, Wrexham, Mansfield and now Charlton.The Prince-e-Paul said:I think the key point from NJ post match interview, is that he knows just how good Sheff Utd are individually AND as a team.They’ve picked up, but they are no 1970 Brazil.Similarly, Southampton absolutely tearing us apart looks like a complete outliner to their other results and performances.
They’re only in such a position because they lost 12 of their first 15 games. Most sides would be dead and buried after a start like that.6 -
It does irritate me when managers are very happy to talk about the points their team should have got, but didn't due to bad luck or dodgy referee decisions, but don't also acknowledge in other games when their team plays badly but gets the points.
Today we were very poor. But next Saturday if we play well, but lose due to back luck or a dodgy refereeing decision, I'll be happy to support and praise the players. Performances and results aren't the same thing.1 -
a lot of them think they weren’t even bookings!Callumcafc said:Seeing the amount of Sheff Utd fans thinking that one, or even both, of those red cards were not correctly given only makes me feel sorry for referees. What chance have they got when fans have such blinkers on?8 -
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This and all the backwards throw-ins doe my head in and don't get me started on our piss poor corners and free kicks!Themightyath2 said:Defending a corner against 9 men and we still don’t leave one up! So negative.7 -
Why have a "hit woodwork" stat when it doesn't count all efforts that hit the woodwork. Bizarre!Callumcafc said:
That is the case. Soumare’s 31st minute effort was classified as a blocked shot, not a shot that hit the woodwork.Desmond Oulu said:
Haven't seen any replays but felt at the time it was deflected onto the post, in which case I presume it would be classified as a blocked shot?swords_alive said:These are the half time stats from fotmob i was sent. Not sure how reliable a souce they are. Sheff U did hit the woodwork and that isn't there. Lots of zeros for us obviously, tells the story.3 -
You are missing the point. Of course 3 points is great, but we were so to totally outplayed right across the pitch that it raises real fears that we going to struggle to survive. This is only our second win in 14 games and it came because the other team went to 9.The Prince-e-Paul said:I think the key point from NJ post match interview, is that he knows just how good Sheff Utd are individually AND as a team. And more important, all of our players know it. Man for man, I'm pretty sure their player gets picked over ours 1-11, hence the reality is, they could, should and would, beat us most times out of 10. We've been extremely lucky to play them when out of form early season, and when having a brain fart today. The result today tells us that we can compete in this league, but with expansive entertaining football, not a hope in hells chance. The result IS everything, because the performance isn't our priority, not just today, but for the entire season.
NJ is pissed off because his team brought home the bacon today (3 points), and the fans collectively said, "Not enough!"
I hate the NJ style of play, but IF it keeps us up, will most people be happy, or still be saying, "Not enough?"
Our starting lineup had three players who had barely played all season,, Anderson, JRC and Knibbs, in midfield. Collectively they were hopeless, even when Sheff went down to 9 and Carey replaced the injured Knibbs.
One wingback was playing out of position and the other, new boy Clarke, has not played all season.
Ramsay is coming back from injury and not properly fit. The whole side was a mess and only Kaminski saved us.
The real fear is that we have been thoroughly found out and winning games 11 v 11 will continue to be very hard. If we carry on our current form, 2 wins in 14, we will win 3 more games this season, and get relegated.
NJ is not a magician. If we do not get some decent reinforcements we will be done for.14 -
That's football fans for you in general.Callumcafc said:Seeing the amount of Sheff Utd fans thinking that one, or even both, of those red cards were not correctly given only makes me feel sorry for referees. What chance have they got when fans have such blinkers on?0 -
NJ makes out like Sheffield United are prime brazil, they were down to 9, are 17th in the league, and lost to mansfield at home in the cup last week, they have good players, but they aren't world beaters2
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Boggles the mind that people think it's some kind of managerial masterclass to scrape a 1-0 win against 9 men.
To go so conservative during a time of overwhelming advantage, just shows how little confidence Jones/the team has in itself.14 -
Absolutely spot on as the throw ons demonstrate the NJ way of playing which is without RISK. How many times did the ball from our throw on land back at the feet of Kaminski under pressure. The 2nd half not putting on Apter on the wing and making Clarke push up in line with their back 4 as often he was alongside Ramsey. Many of our players just can't control a ball let alone pass. Sorry all that claptrap NJ comes out about the 'journey' and the 'wonderful' teams in the championship it's his lack of nous that is causing us most of the issues. Today Sheffield United could have been 2 or 3 up before the sending offs and whilst they may have technically better players for their part they took RISK. NJ is devoid of risk taking and takes great credit for getting us out of league 1 he is being shown up in the championship. All things being equal and being RISK takers we may still of lost today but to not have one single offensive play in the 1st 40 mins tells me that NJ is getting past his sell date. In addition consistently we take poor corners ( Do they not practice) and have no plan known by all demonstrated by Ramsey getting in the way of Lloyd Jones at the back post in the 2nd half.East Kent Addick said:
This and all the backwards throw-ins doe my head in and don't get me started on our piss poor corners and free kicks!Themightyath2 said:Defending a corner against 9 men and we still don’t leave one up! So negative.
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It's Sheffield United's fault they had two sent off.
We were bad, and the seeds of objective discomfort with Nathan Jones were planted today.
I still think our one and only objective is survival, but looking at how many opposition teams can play, flying by the seat of our pants all the time looks unsustainable in the medium to long term.
Weirdly going in to this season I would never have predicted us somehow doing the double over Sheffield United, yet it just happened, they are very generous.4 -
The first is high and a red for me.Not sure about the second from the screenshot I’ve taken tbh…3 -
Absolutely it was embarrassing. First half they not only had 10 shots to one, we had no touches in their box. This was the luckiest result we have had in many a year. It was awful.CAFCTrev said:We were diabolical today. No way we would have got a result if it stayed 11v11
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I do think this squad is capable of showing more attacking intent, but they're quite clearly instructed not to do so. I don't mind us being scrappy if we stay up come May, but would expect us to progress beyond this utterly turgid stuff we're being served up this season. It's not like we were exactly progressive last season and if you can't express against 9 men, when the fuck are you going to?3
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I feel the opposition each week now know how to play us after Southampton tore us apart. Seems oppo managers plans are to overrun from the first whistle and even if we manage to not concede, our confidence is battered. We usually look marginally better in the Second 45s because the opposition can’t keep up the intensity and a bit of confidence starts to return.As for today, totally bizarre! The Red cards were justified. Tanganga, still incensed by the first Red card, was angry and out of control and imo was the worst of the two. Notwithstanding the horrible outcome. the foul on Knibbs could be seen as a poorly timed tackle. No such excuses could be made for Tangangas assault!
one last thing, and I’m sure it’s due to lack of confidence but this constant taking throw ins backwards is killing us7 -
The number of sympathy good scores for Anderson in the player ratings thread is shocking. There can be differences in opinion for many situations but with a performance that dire - some are clearly not being objective2
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If we go down on a close goal difference, this will be the match to point to.4
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I never give scores and never look at that thread really as I have no interest in such stats but your post above made me look this time. I think the 4’s and 5’s he got were about right, the 6’s and above too much but equally the 2 you gave was too low. It’s all about opinions though and you mark as you see fit as does everyone else.Bostonaddick said:The number of sympathy good scores for Anderson in the player ratings thread is shocking. There can be differences in opinion for many situations but with a performance that dire - some are clearly not being objective1 -
3 points. Job done. Onto the next.5
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The "not enough" was because we were playing against 9 men for 50 minutes......or had you forgotten about that ?The Prince-e-Paul said:I think the key point from NJ post match interview, is that he knows just how good Sheff Utd are individually AND as a team. And more important, all of our players know it. Man for man, I'm pretty sure their player gets picked over ours 1-11, hence the reality is, they could, should and would, beat us most times out of 10. We've been extremely lucky to play them when out of form early season, and when having a brain fart today. The result today tells us that we can compete in this league, but with expansive entertaining football, not a hope in hells chance. The result IS everything, because the performance isn't our priority, not just today, but for the entire season.
NJ is pissed off because his team brought home the bacon today (3 points), and the fans collectively said, "Not enough!"
I hate the NJ style of play, but IF it keeps us up, will most people be happy, or still be saying, "Not enough?"
Football fans aren't stupid. They know when they are under the cosh & fighting for their lives against better teams. They are prepared to put aside their wants for flowing football if their side is scraping for a point away from home. What they wont forgive is a team seemingly unable or unwilling to up the tempo when at home against a team down to 9 men.2 -
This is my first post on this site, so hopefully first impressions count and I don’t ruin my reputation on this site before I’ve even started.
In terms of today’s game, I think the less said about it the better.Did we get 3 points? Yes
Were we worthy winners of those points? No
I can understand what some people on this site are saying regarding “3 points is 3 points” as I agree but if we drew today’s game I’m sure there would have been comments stating that we should’ve gone for a second before trying to take the sting out of the game. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but let’s not kid ourselves if the plan was to score 1 and shut up shop and limit Sheffield Utd then that was just risky as one chance could’ve changed us gaining 3 points to only gaining 1. They are Sheffield Utd not Man City and we are level on points atm which shows that they are not world beaters.We had 0 shots in the whole first half and that includes the 15 mins after Soumare got their first red of the game. That is unacceptable. If you want to stay in a division then you have to earn that right. 0 shots in a whole half of football at home does not earn that.I don’t mind getting 3 points from bad performances but against 9 men I would expect better from the team. When TK is probably the only Charlton player that deserved POTM against 9 men for 50 minutes I think says it all tbh.I don’t want to come across as a moany fan as I try to stay optimistic and with this being my first post probably doesn’t show that, I just expected more from the boys. It was great to see Godden back and hopefully Edwards is not that far either. I thought Clark put in some good low deliveries which Dykes nearly got on the end of. With more minutes and cohesion I can see them being good additions (as long as they stay fit).As people have said, yes it’s 3 extra points on the board which is all that matters at the end of the day and as long as we can match or better the results of pompey, Blackburn and Oxford for the next 20 games then we will be in this division next year.15
