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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Sheffield United: Saturday 17th January 2026: KO 15:00
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I Guess football is a game of opinions? I thought it was obvious unless Coventry has the plague he plays. Club captain not even on the bench, new young exciting starlet nowhere to be seen. Kelman off at HT.AFKABartram said:
I don’t think it was clear as Jones had never adopted a weekend / midweek squad utilising strategy, even over a congested Xmas period. Derby are also above Sheff U in the league so it was hardly a Arsenal / Wolves conundrumManic_mania said:
I thought it was fairly clear from the team sheet that we saving personnel for the game Tuesday which on paper was more winnable - not saying if that is right or wrong but with the defensive line up, holding back Coventry, tanto, doc, even ibs not on the bench - I think NJ had already written this one off and was hoping for a 0-0AFKABartram said:
Then (not being personal), I honestly can’t believe anyone present who sat through that hasn’t got serious concerns at the direction our play and confidence is going in, or highlight the fans as being negative as a key takeaway.superclive98 said:
I was. In fact, because of the shit trains, I haven't even made it home to Broadstairs yet.AFKABartram said:
Out of interest, were you there @superclive98 ?superclive98 said:Only Charlton fans can complain about how we won, when we're in a relegation battle.Given the circumstance, I thought the fans were great. If Jones or anyone thinks a crowd of football fans isn’t going to voice some frustration when they are playing so badly and negatively during a bad run, then they are in cloud cuckoo land. I’d rather highlight that despite what was on offer, the fans continued to sing Nathan Jones red and white army throughout.At the end of the game, the team felt embarrassed to celebrate and there were no fist pumps. The manager scarpered quickly. Our goal keeper was man of the match in a game we played against 9 men for more than half of it. The away team got a standing ovation from their fans.It was awful. Everyone is hugely thankful for the three points, particularly given other results, but we’ll see in the next few games whether the double sending off was just the bit of fortune we’ve been needing, or a very temporary papering over the cracks.
them going down to 9 exposed the lack of proper preparation for Sheff U today.
Sheff u won like 4 on the trot and derby form patchy - yeah i stand by it I think if you asked the fanbase 24 hours ago which one we were more likely to win at home it would have been Derby.0 -
Not aimed at Jones or in fact any individual. It’s a comment about the team as a collective.ElfsborgAddick said:iainambler said:
There’s an easy answer to that.llama_child_21cws said:If the team play without passion or conviction, don’t expect much in return.Which can certainly not be aimed at Jones, without this we would be in a more dangerous position than we are now.Second season syndrome is how I see it, survive this one and need to build on it next season.There’s a lot to build on for next season.0 -
The loss of balance in the side has really f#€>ked us up, we are in for these inconsistent performances until it’s sorted, it’s drained any confidence we had away and needs building back up. I’m sure someone will tell me, but I can’t remember the loss of one particular player having such an overall effect on the team as losing Edward’s has.0
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One of the most one sided opening 35 minutes i have ever seen. They were slicker, faster and at last Kamikaze has given me food for thought as rating him as a keeper. But we hung in there.
Bamford tried to con the ref for a penalty and the two sending offs were well deserved. Who knows how long Knibbs will be out and his career so far has been stop and start here, whilst the culprit will only be out for 3. The second well what do you expect when you charge into someone's head at almost full pelt.
Great start second half and we should have got more goals but a precious 3 points.
Derby will be different, we have to come out of the blocks otherwise they wont miss the chances that sheff utd did.5 -
Quite a feat to write multiple paragraphs on a post match thread for a match you haven’t seen!golfaddick said:PWR.
Not at the game so can omly go on what was said on here during the match......and my general observations of the season so far.
Sounds like we got out of jail. TK kept us in it for the first 35 mins & then 2 reds turned the game. Yes, 3 points is 3 points but unless we meet teams who are going to have players sent off every match then something has to change. In a way it will as Bree wont be around anymore (what a stupid decision to play him on the left in any case) and so without a LWB Jones will have to go back to putting TC there....or think up another cunning plan with our right footed players 🤔🤷♂️. Today just papered over the cracks & although we are starting to get players back (Ramsay & Godden) we really need to sort out the left side of our defence pretty damn quick if we want to stay away from the relegation places. I have tried not to comment on our (non) action in the transfer market re a LWB (I did post last week on that thread but got pelters so left the week ride out to see where we would be going into this weekend).
Our attacking threat (or lack thereof) still concerns me and even if we sort out the LWB position I still think we will struggle to win enough games to be safe going into the last few weeks of the season. Probably need another 6 or 7 wins with a few draws thrown in to be safe. Love to think today could be a springboard but I have a fear we will lose the next 3 games (or at least wont pick up a win) and we will be looking over shoulder again going into February.11 -
But it wasnt 11 v 11 so all good really 👍CAFCTrev said:We were diabolical today. No way we would have got a result if it stayed 11v11
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Bell/TC worked. Bell's absence on top of Edwards has done us.Sword65pf said:The loss of balance in the side has really f#€>ked us up, we are in for these inconsistent performances until it’s sorted, it’s drained any confidence we had away and needs building back up. I’m sure someone will tell me, but I can’t remember the loss of one particular player having such an overall effect on the team as losing Edward’s has.2 -
Well over the top and negative, who gives a shit how we played. WE WON!!!!!3 points in the bag12
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Try to enjoy?!NomadicAddick said:That second half was really painful, knew it would be as soon as I saw Dykes for Kelman. Would have much rather Dykes for Leaburn, I get that they were going to be deep but we could’ve done with much more intricate play around the box rather than just relying on crosses from TC most of the game. F knows, maybe playing against 9 men isn’t as easy as it sounds, in fairness to them they held their shape very well. Really surprised Coventry didn’t come on either for Anderson, we could’ve done with some more composure. Our pitch also looks shit, guess that isn’t the worst thing in the world under Jones.Anyway, a massive 3 points which I’ll now try to enjoy. Dykes showed some promise, well played to Kaminski and great to have Godden back! COYR.
What?! 🤣🤣 enjoy any win! Rubbish performance or not!0 -
Defending a corner against 9 men and we still don’t leave one up! So negative.6
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All starts with Edward’s, Bell would then be in his best position with gillesphey on the bench. We aren’t then worrying about covering Maccas pace and look forward rather than containing things. Bell/TC worked to an extent.Southbank said:
Bell/TC worked. Bell's absence on top of Edwards has done us.Sword65pf said:The loss of balance in the side has really f#€>ked us up, we are in for these inconsistent performances until it’s sorted, it’s drained any confidence we had away and needs building back up. I’m sure someone will tell me, but I can’t remember the loss of one particular player having such an overall effect on the team as losing Edward’s has.2 -
I’m in exactly the same place @chunes. Aspects of the Chelsea performance concerned me, but I put that down our players feeling inferior/ showing too much respect. But we were just as bad both in and out of possession today. No partnerships seemed right, we are on our heels or out of positional shape far too much (why we collect so many bookings for pull backs, play stopping etc). We have no real flow to our play at all at the moment.Chunes said:Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided.
I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.
It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure.
The stats for the 1st half are horrific, particularly given they had 10 men for the last 10 mins. For the 1st half, we made just 28 passes in the opposing half (for comparison, 0-0 1st half on the opening game v Watford was 70 passes off just 42% possession).0.0xg. No shots, no corners, no touches in the opposition box. That last stat is bonkers.4 -
I would rather have Ben Purrington as lwb rather than Bree. Or Adam Reach. Or the Aussie Mauragis that I've never seen play but his tapes seem good attacking wise.0
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What are the stats for the first half v second half? BBC only has them for the whole match.AFKABartram said:
I’m in exactly the same place @chunes. Aspects of the Chelsea performance concerned me, but I put that down our players feeling inferior/ showing too much respect. But we were just as bad both in and out of possession today. No partnerships seemed right, we are on our heels or out of positional shape far too much (why we collect so many bookings for pull backs, play stopping etc). We have no real flow to our play at all at the moment.Chunes said:Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided.
I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.
It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure.
The stats for the 1st half are horrific, particularly given they had 10 men for the last 10 mins. For the 1st half, we made just 28 passes in the opposing half (for comparison, 0-0 1st half on the opening game v Watford was 70 passes off just 42% possession).0.0xg. No shots, no corners, no touches in the opposition box. That last stat is bonkers.0 -
+1 to this - i'm desperate to know where we are in the XG and posession leagueOff_it said:
What are the stats for the first half v second half? BBC only has them for the whole match.AFKABartram said:
I’m in exactly the same place @chunes. Aspects of the Chelsea performance concerned me, but I put that down our players feeling inferior/ showing too much respect. But we were just as bad both in and out of possession today. No partnerships seemed right, we are on our heels or out of positional shape far too much (why we collect so many bookings for pull backs, play stopping etc). We have no real flow to our play at all at the moment.Chunes said:Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided.
I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.
It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure.
The stats for the 1st half are horrific, particularly given they had 10 men for the last 10 mins. For the 1st half, we made just 28 passes in the opposing half (for comparison, 0-0 1st half on the opening game v Watford was 70 passes off just 42% possession).0.0xg. No shots, no corners, no touches in the opposition box. That last stat is bonkers.0 -
Off_it said:
What are the stats for the first half v second half? BBC only has them for the whole match.AFKABartram said:
I’m in exactly the same place @chunes. Aspects of the Chelsea performance concerned me, but I put that down our players feeling inferior/ showing too much respect. But we were just as bad both in and out of possession today. No partnerships seemed right, we are on our heels or out of positional shape far too much (why we collect so many bookings for pull backs, play stopping etc). We have no real flow to our play at all at the moment.Chunes said:Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided.
I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.
It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure.
The stats for the 1st half are horrific, particularly given they had 10 men for the last 10 mins. For the 1st half, we made just 28 passes in the opposing half (for comparison, 0-0 1st half on the opening game v Watford was 70 passes off just 42% possession).0.0xg. No shots, no corners, no touches in the opposition box. That last stat is bonkers.
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Quite content in our circumstances.3 points and new starters looked ok.Godden back and TC also looked no worse for wear.Ramsay looked rusty and too many slightly misplaced passes. But assume that’s a one off.Kaminski won it really.Onwards and upwards.3
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How have Sheff U had 0 “big chances”se9addick said:Off_it said:
What are the stats for the first half v second half? BBC only has them for the whole match.AFKABartram said:
I’m in exactly the same place @chunes. Aspects of the Chelsea performance concerned me, but I put that down our players feeling inferior/ showing too much respect. But we were just as bad both in and out of possession today. No partnerships seemed right, we are on our heels or out of positional shape far too much (why we collect so many bookings for pull backs, play stopping etc). We have no real flow to our play at all at the moment.Chunes said:Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided.
I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.
It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure.
The stats for the 1st half are horrific, particularly given they had 10 men for the last 10 mins. For the 1st half, we made just 28 passes in the opposing half (for comparison, 0-0 1st half on the opening game v Watford was 70 passes off just 42% possession).0.0xg. No shots, no corners, no touches in the opposition box. That last stat is bonkers.1st half stats3 -
So with 2 on TC, that left 6 other out field players for them, no wonder we found it so hard in the second half.Southbank said:
Campbell had two men marking him every time he got the ball. Apter should have been on the side to take advantage of that.RonnieMoore said:First half Sheff Utd started as expected front foot , full of confidence the good thing was we stayed in the game .. i do question NJ team selection in midfield and that caused us issues the whole game .. Anderson ?? the only reason we were in the game at HT was Kaminski… two or three excellent saves and was clear MOM … then the sending offs and the changes …. Don’t think NJ done enough at ht we should have stretched the play but didn’t .. good goalfrom Carey after knock down from Dykes .. but then we got it wrong , don’t get me wrong Sheff Utd never looked like scoring second half but we didn’t go for the kill .. we did not keep procession well enough especially at the back , the crowd did not help and when played the ball forward Sheff Utd coped well which is what they wanted .. Campbell had no one marking him at all and he had so much space and time yet again failed to deliver a killer cross he was poor .. why oh why Apter not playing .. .. we huffed and puffed but it got a little nervous cause it was a massive result .. at the end of the day it was massive 3 points against a team who were in top form .. does not matter how you get it , performance it’s about winning and we did .. we seen it thousands of times that sending offs effects the other team more … but today I think NJ got it badly wrong both in starting line up and at ht with the subs and his game management through the second half7 -
I totally disagree with this. Once SU went down to nine men and we scored a goal, their main tactic was to play deep, try to nick the ball off us around their penalty area, or break from an ill directed corner, where our defenders were high up the pitch.golfaddick said:
If the manager cant understand why fans would not be happy with the team not going for the jugular playing against 9 men at home then he either doesn't understand football fans or shouldn't be a manager.....or both.Smithy said:There are no words to describe how bad that was so I won’t bother trying to find them. Very glad of the 3 points because it’s tough to see many wins coming soon. Jones seemingly stormed off at the end and was fuming that fans were calling for more urgency so should be an interesting interview. Time to move on and never think of that game again.
We needed to draw SU out from that defensive structure by playing the ball around at the back. They had no incentive to engage us, but at some point, they would have had to come out to engage, then that would be the time for us to attack. I thought we were too quick to try and get the ball forward, that was what they were looking for, a breakdown in one of our forward moves to launch a counter attack.
This sounds negative, but ultimately it would have led to opening up more space for our attackers. So when the fans around me were baying for the team to attack at every opportunity, I was screaming to keep passing the ball around at the back, draw them out, then attack at speed.
From this post you might have observed that my limited footballing career was as a defender!12 -
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No idea, I am but the messenger.paulsturgess said:
How have Sheff U had 0 “big chances”se9addick said:Off_it said:
What are the stats for the first half v second half? BBC only has them for the whole match.AFKABartram said:
I’m in exactly the same place @chunes. Aspects of the Chelsea performance concerned me, but I put that down our players feeling inferior/ showing too much respect. But we were just as bad both in and out of possession today. No partnerships seemed right, we are on our heels or out of positional shape far too much (why we collect so many bookings for pull backs, play stopping etc). We have no real flow to our play at all at the moment.Chunes said:Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided.
I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.
It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure.
The stats for the 1st half are horrific, particularly given they had 10 men for the last 10 mins. For the 1st half, we made just 28 passes in the opposing half (for comparison, 0-0 1st half on the opening game v Watford was 70 passes off just 42% possession).0.0xg. No shots, no corners, no touches in the opposition box. That last stat is bonkers.1st half stats0 -
We've played some terrible football in recent games and if we do stay up will be favourites for relegation next season unless we improve.
The first half today was embarrassing at times and we were completely outplayed. The red cards saved us..
NJ is no fool - he can't be happy with the performance today.
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Worried. Imperative we stay up and I’m not sure we will.4
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Anderson's passing was especially woeful today.
But so was Carey's and even RC's
Our midfield is either inconsistent passing or poor passing.3 -
These are the half time stats from fotmob i was sent. Not sure how reliable a souce they are. Sheff U did hit the woodwork and that isn't there. Lots of zeros for us obviously, tells the story.
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0-0 first half with two red cardsOff_it said:
What are the stats for the first half v second half? BBC only has them for the whole match.AFKABartram said:
I’m in exactly the same place @chunes. Aspects of the Chelsea performance concerned me, but I put that down our players feeling inferior/ showing too much respect. But we were just as bad both in and out of possession today. No partnerships seemed right, we are on our heels or out of positional shape far too much (why we collect so many bookings for pull backs, play stopping etc). We have no real flow to our play at all at the moment.Chunes said:Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided.
I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.
It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure.
The stats for the 1st half are horrific, particularly given they had 10 men for the last 10 mins. For the 1st half, we made just 28 passes in the opposing half (for comparison, 0-0 1st half on the opening game v Watford was 70 passes off just 42% possession).0.0xg. No shots, no corners, no touches in the opposition box. That last stat is bonkers.
1-0 second half with no red cards 😂4 -
It's almost like Sheffield United lost this game, but Charlton didn't win it.2
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After reading all the comments on here (and other forums), will Nathan apologise to the fans for his post match petulance?3
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Thanks. Surprised we had as much possession as that to be honest. Dreadful first half.se9addick said:Off_it said:
What are the stats for the first half v second half? BBC only has them for the whole match.AFKABartram said:
I’m in exactly the same place @chunes. Aspects of the Chelsea performance concerned me, but I put that down our players feeling inferior/ showing too much respect. But we were just as bad both in and out of possession today. No partnerships seemed right, we are on our heels or out of positional shape far too much (why we collect so many bookings for pull backs, play stopping etc). We have no real flow to our play at all at the moment.Chunes said:Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided.
I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.
It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure.
The stats for the 1st half are horrific, particularly given they had 10 men for the last 10 mins. For the 1st half, we made just 28 passes in the opposing half (for comparison, 0-0 1st half on the opening game v Watford was 70 passes off just 42% possession).0.0xg. No shots, no corners, no touches in the opposition box. That last stat is bonkers.1st half stats0 -
Perhaps because you should know by now not to bet on games involving us, especially in an accumulator.R0TW said:
It would appear you are, when you would favour a bookmaker over a punter.Addickted2U said:
Over 2 grand Sheff Utd have cost you?R0TW said:
Sad.
Not the first time it has been close but no cigar.
Just a bet with my head, not my heart.
Struggle with how you consider laughing out loud at it, that’s all.
Hey ho.0
