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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Sheffield United: Saturday 17th January 2026: KO 15:00

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  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,021
    Come on lifers, a little perspective please. We've been on a horrible run for a while and up against a side who for the last 2 months have been on a very good run. Yes we didnt batter them in the 2nd half as we might want us to but we did what we needed to. A win is a win. Points on the board. Away from the scrap at the bottom of the table. Platform from which to build and players coming back from injury/new signings looking promising. 

    Cheer up!!
    Charlton fans: "We CANNOT go back down to League One... It would ruin us"
    Also Charlton fans: "Oh we can't be winning games like that"
    We can, it would just be nice if we turned them over, like we did Blackburn. 
  • Michaelmon
    Michaelmon Posts: 290
    We’ve gone from ‘I’ll take 21st any way possible’ at the start of the season to whining about winning very quickly, well done everyone. We’ve gained ground on Oxford, West Brom and Blackburn today while beating a team who I don’t think we expected to get 6 points off this season all without a functional LWB and missing some key players. I’ll definitely take it. It’s a good day
    It’s mad isn’t it. 

    Also people seem to have forgotten how well we played at the start of the season and assume we can never regain any of that form.

    a football season is ups and downs. More downs than ups recently but we won’t play that poorly again this year I’ll bet 
    Financial adverts are usually caveated with the words...." past performance is no guarantee of future returns".  And usually the best guide to the future is current trends. 

    We are nowhere near the team we were in August & September. We havent played well for months & only won today because the opposition went down to 9 men. We are the only team since the end of August not to score against Norwich and we have 3 tough games coming up before the month is out. No win in those 3 games could mean us being very close to the bottom 3.

    And before you start abusing me like you usually do you might do well to read every other post on here, who virtually to a man think we played poorly & were very lucky to get 3 points.
    Thought you didn’t watch the game?
  • gmantaxi
    gmantaxi Posts: 379
    Think it came down to we are not used to having that much possession with jones ball and had no idea what the hell to do with it , but a wins a win and 3 more points to safety, onwards to derby COYR 
  • 3 points and Dykes looked good. Up the table and that's all that matters. A win on Tuesday and a point next Saturday will be a great haul.
  • KingKinsella
    KingKinsella Posts: 1,355
    sam3110 said:

    Glad someone else was watching.
    Crawley mark 2 except with a different outcome.
    Sheffield had more  football talent/more football intelligence on the pitch with 9 men than we did with 11. 
    Very fortunate win.We nearly gave the gift horse a gastroscopy and colonoscopy
    NJ recruited these players and coaches them.
    These are relegation style performances, but we are blessed by having afew more points than others due to a "good start" (fortunate start eg Watford )

    Well done to Dykes and Clarke who  showed that they have played under decent coaches.,hope they can ignore everything NJ tells them.

    And Kaminski- superb

  • mr.se7
    mr.se7 Posts: 279
    edited January 17
    Aside from other points made…I thought that Ramsey balls to Clarke repeatedly killed momentum today. Passing to his heels rather than slightly in front of him with lots of forward space slowed everything. Not only player to do so btw and we all have off days, just the one I can remember.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,944
    The game reminded me of my dog walk this morning. Half way to the park, dog shapes to go turd and I realise i've not brought the poo bags. Fortunately he does a nice solid turd in one spot i can pick up with an empty mcdonalds cup lying in the gutter.

    Absolute dog shit, but good dog shit. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,669
    First half Sheff Utd started as expected front foot , full of confidence the good thing was we stayed in the game .. i do question NJ team selection in midfield and that caused us issues the whole game .. Anderson ?? the only reason we were in the game at HT was Kaminski… two or three excellent saves and was clear MOM … then the sending offs and the changes …. Don’t think NJ done enough at ht we should have stretched the play but didn’t .. good goal
    from Carey after knock down from Dykes .. but then we got it wrong , don’t get me wrong Sheff Utd never looked like scoring second half but we didn’t go for the kill .. we did not keep procession well enough especially at the back , the crowd did not help and when played the ball forward Sheff Utd coped well which is what they wanted .. Campbell had no one marking him at all and he had so much space and time yet again failed to deliver a killer cross he was poor .. why oh why Apter not playing .. .. we huffed and puffed but it got a little nervous cause it was a massive result .. at the end of the day it was massive 3 points against a team who were in top form .. does not matter how you get it , performance it’s about winning and we did .. we seen it thousands of times that sending offs effects the other team more … but today I think NJ got it badly wrong both in starting line up and at ht with the subs and his game management through the second half
    Massive clown.

    If anyone other than the OP had written that, you wouldn’t have said that. There have been countless other posters saying similar on this thread.

    Ronnie says some bizarre stuff sometimes but that’s a blend and mix of opinions from every other post on here. Don’t see the problem with it 
    There are certain posters who like to abuse other certain posters.  Its not nice & should be stopped by the Mods.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,649
    3 points and Dykes looked good. Up the table and that's all that matters. A win on Tuesday and a point next Saturday will be a great haul.

    Have you seen who we are playing next Saturday? :'(

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,043
    Dazzler21 said:
    On the second red card, watching the replays I'd say definite yellow, harsh red. It wasn't exactly a shearer elbow but he came in at velocity. 
    It was a massive forearm smash to a defenceless opponent. I think he can have no complaints and don’t expect it to be overturned if they appeal.
    No way will they apeal.
    Wilder has said they will appeal the second one. Bonkers.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,797
    who gives a shit. give it a month and all we'll remember is that we took 6 points off them.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,895
    Jones digging us out for getting on their backs when only 1 up, bore off you helmet, you can glaze Sheffield all you want, down to 9 men and away from home and you're still scared of them, tells us a lot of how little quality we actually have, should be putting them to the sword and making an impression, not still standing off them and praying they don't score an equaliser 
  • Addickted2U
    Addickted2U Posts: 3,121
    R0TW said:

    Over 2 grand Sheff Utd have cost you?
    Sad. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,260
    edited January 17
    sam3110 said:
    Jones digging us out for getting on their backs when only 1 up, bore off you helmet, you can glaze Sheffield all you want, down to 9 men and away from home and you're still scared of them, tells us a lot of how little quality we actually have, should be putting them to the sword and making an impression, not still standing off them and praying they don't score an equaliser 
    Praying they don’t score an equalizer… behave. I get we didn’t exactly go for the jugular but they also didn’t look like scoring after we  went ahead.  
  • Addickinedi
    Addickinedi Posts: 161
    When I saw the line up, I wondered how much time the midfield spent on the training pitch.
    I found out the answer pretty quickly.
    Shame Ramsay has to make needless fouls and put us under pressure. Looks threatening when going forward but then no one goes with him so often plays ball backwards.
    Clarke looked confident but what a game for Apter to come onto. They doubled up on TC after the goal and might have had the same problem with Apter on the other side.
    Baffling at times but 3 points from that team sheet, brilliant.
  • I remember when Jones first came in a few Luton fans were asked what to expect 
    from him as a manger their response was to expect shit boring football they weren’t wrong .
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,944
    Not at all convinced Ramsay is even 80% fit
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,043
    edited January 17
    Chunes said:
    Posting without reading. I felt like tonight was probably a night to stay off of CL because of the inevitably obvious car crash between the optimists and the realists. But oh well, let's not pretend this site isn't an addictive dopamine hook that can be avoided. 

    I thought we were so incredibly lucky to not be 4 - 0 down early on the first half. Kaminski singlehandedly kept us in it. It took two sendings off for us to scrape the win.

    It's so weird that we won, and yet it's the first day of the season that I thought to myself... We really could go down. I hadn't thought it was a possibility before today. I genuinely thought we had enough. But now, I'm really not sure. 

    Is it not between the realists and the pessimists?

    Pemmists - we won but it wasn’t good enough

    Realists - we won, it wasn’t very good but we won and that’s all that matters after the poor run of form

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  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,312
    Just seen the NJ interview. Absolutely agree lucky not to be in League 2 and he has loads of credit for pushing us on.
    But he should still acknowledge the fans win loose or draw.
    I know we are not going to win every week, but I do think we should win by more than 1 goal against a nine man team. 
  • Not at all convinced Ramsay is even 80% fit
    He didn't look right at all. Trying to do all the things he normally makes look easy but at half the speed. 
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,812
    R0TW said:

    Over 2 grand Sheff Utd have cost you?
    Sad. 
    It would appear you are, when you would favour a bookmaker over a punter.
    Not the first time it has been close but no cigar.
    Just a bet with my head, not my heart.
    Struggle with how you consider laughing out loud at it, that’s all.
    Hey ho.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,222

    The definitive game of two halves.

    I am at a loss to understand how we went in on level terms, given United’s almost total domination of the first half. I suppose the answer is Kaminsky - who made two very good saves - and their profligacy in front of goal. They did hit the post, although from 12 yards out, I’d expect their guy to have hit the target, even with a good few bodies in the way.

    To say the two sending offs changed the game is a huge understatement. Nathan made a couple a smart half-time changes, with Lyndon Dykes coming on for the ineffective Kelman and TC for Bree, who had picked up a first half booking. Dykes introduced himself with a lovely knock down header from Gillespie’s long ball for Carey to lash home a fine volley.

    TC proceeded to burn his full back on a regular basis but we couldn’t find the second killer goal. His pace and ability to take opponents out of the game doesn’t impress everyone on Charlton Life but it certainly impresses me and, most importantly, the man who matters, Nathan Jones.

    Our inability to put the game definitively to bed induced some late nerves, as we’ve had so many setbacks recently, although in truth our goal was never put under any real threat in the second period.

    An absolutely huge 3 points, which was particularly vital given the away wins for Pompey and Norwich. 32 points down and 18 to go.

    A big shout out to Kaminsky, Lloyd Jones, Leaburn, TC and the two new lads, Dykes and Clarke. I was surprised that the latter lasted the full 90 minutes given his lack of game time and he showed some real quality on the ball. 

    Great to see Matty Godden on the pitch, although I’m not sure I’d have introduced him in the last minute for our 6ft 7 centre-forward when Sheffield Utd were loading the box !

    Let’s hope that Harvey Knibbs’ injury isn’t as bad as it looks.

    Just two further points: first, you’d have got long odds on our doing the double over Sheffield Utd back in pre-season; and, second, what an atrocious bit of play acting by Bamford, trying to get Ramsey in trouble and the ref to start evening up the red card count. 

    A perfect start to a tough run of league games. Hopefully we can add to the points total on Tuesday against Derby before the trips to Millwall and Leicester. 

  • It is quite remarkable that we are level on points with Sheff United and only a point behind Southampton. Jones is massively in credit with what he has achieved in that regard.

    However, if we continue getting progressively more and more negative, as we have in recent months, we will eventually get relegated.

    Hopefully today was a wake up call for Nathan. Not all fans who attend the Valley are "die hards", a large section pay their money and expect to see some exciting football occasionally, or at least a fifteen yard pass placed accurately, rather than constantly behind the man.

    Too many of our players seem to have adopted this negative mindset of turning backwards, or playing the easy ball rather than playing with a hint of ambition.
    A change of mindset is required ! 


  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,339
    Huge win, couldn’t give a crap about the circumstances.

    This was against a team who finished on 90 odd points last season and we’ve done the double.  I’m sure the result may have been different had the sending offs not happened, but at the same time, they were two awful fouls, and on paper, the result should be different if both teams have 11 men on the pitch.  

    We’re limited on the ball, but a really well organised and united team off it.  5 years since we were last in the division, about 17 years going backwards as a football club on the whole, save for a couple of seasons under Powell and a miraculous promotion under Bowyer, almost doing the unthinkable and staying up the following season


    if we stay up, we’ve got all summer to debate how the likes of Gillesphey, Docherty etc aren’t able to cut it at this level.  It’s clear the summer business wasn’t quite enough to make this a comfortable fight to stay up, but there’s a togetherness and a way of approaching this season that’s given us a fighting chance

    to go down would be disastrous, as it stands we need to find another 18 odd points from 20 games.  It’s a great position to be in and a massive achievement.  Pompey and Norwich both won today as well, so and even better 3 points 


  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,149
    Sheffield United are a much better side than us with much better players. Looked like our aim, much like the Ipswich game (and other games where we clearly play better sides), was to stay in the game and then maybe try and steal a 1-0. We won that 3-0 and in this one thanks to Kaminski we stayed in it and Sheff U gifted us 3 points.

    We took the lead minutes after (in game time) the second red and were realistically not threatened after. Yes it’d have been nice to kill the game off but we all know we lack creativity and Sheff U stuck 9 men behind the ball and defended relatively well given the situation. 

    Our aim is to stay up. With the squad we have that would be a decent achievement. 3 big points on the way to trying to do that, regardless of how it was achieved.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,495
    Firstly, who on here had us to do the double over the blades without conceding a goal, no I didn't think so. Playing Bree at left wing back was probably Nathan Jones saying to the board, 'look we need a left wing back', most of their best attacks came down that side and if I were Chris Wilder, I would have pointed out that right footed Bree and Gillesphey were to be got at. If we go to the Den without that position filled, hide behind the sofa. Positives, Kaminski, Lloyd Jones, Anderson, leaburn, Dykes, the return of Matt Godden and three points in this three game run. Negatives, vacancy in the left wing back position, no Bell or Edwards. You might think we didn't deserve it but at the end of the season, we will look back and thank our lucky stars for Sheff Utd taking Chris Wilders instructions too literally. 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,925
    Only Charlton fans can complain about how we won, when we're in a relegation battle.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,947
    Redshift said:
    One of the worst performances in more than 60 years watching Charlton. Gifted the win. First half a complete shambles. I can take we have lesser players but the complete lack of any organisation is incredible. Everything we do is off the cuff. No plan at all. I support the team
    and always will. Support does not equal winning. But no sense of approach is unacceptable. 
    Wow!
    I didn’t see the match. Was it that bad? I find it hard to believe that organisation and lack of approach/ plan is the problem. 

    All I can say is that if I were a neutral and saw the result of this match knowing that the away team played the whole second half with 9 men, I’d be saying that the home team must be shit.

    Having seen what I have this season, it confirms to me not that we are overall shit, but that our attack is shit and our manager has the most killjoy approach possible. 

    Can anyone argue that with 11 against 9, they were the 'best version of themselves’? 

    I can’t bear anymore to watch us because of our turgid football.  I’ll keep tracks on here and elsewhere, and hope NJ can do it but I don’t like his football. It’s like going out to eat at a Mexican restaurant and being served Doritos.