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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Sheffield United: Saturday 17th January 2026: KO 15:00
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From my angle, which was the same as the ref’s but further away, the 2nd looked worse real time than the 1st.covered_end_junior said:
The first is high and a red for me.Not sure about the second from the screenshot I’ve taken tbh…2 -
It wasn't a great performance and the team selection was terrible.
I'm not sure why Jones is persisting with this formation when we don't have the players for it. I feel like we've been playing with 9 players since Edwards and Bell got injured so nice to even up the numbers for once. Utilising Apter and Campbell as our only attacking outlets, a 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 would suit us more at the moment.
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Totally agree about Apter. They were forced to stay compact through the middle leaving lots of space out wide. It worked for TC on the left. With Apter running at them with pace on the right we may have created a few more chances.Addickinedi said:When I saw the line up, I wondered how much time the midfield spent on the training pitch.
I found out the answer pretty quickly.
Shame Ramsay has to make needless fouls and put us under pressure. Looks threatening when going forward but then no one goes with him so often plays ball backwards.
Clarke looked confident but what a game for Apter to come onto. They doubled up on TC after the goal and might have had the same problem with Apter on the other side.
Baffling at times but 3 points from that team sheet, brilliant.3 -
It's insane to me that we keep seeing TC at left wing back.Charlton and on said:It wasn't a great performance and the team selection was terrible.
I'm also not sure why Jones is persisting with this formation when we don't have the players for it. I feel like we've been playing with 9 players since Edwards and Bell got injured so nice to even up the numbers for once. Utilising Apter and Campbell as our only attacking outlets, a 4-5-1 / 4-3-3 would suit us more at the moment.
One of the switches that changed our fortunes last season was Campbell being up top and pulling out left, giving us an out ball. It made us probably more like a 4-3-3 when we got forward as TC was starting so wide.That continued at the start of this season too.
Now that's just stopped. I don't understand it.
I do understand we have injuries at LWB, but there has to be a better option than taking our fastest striker/winger and playing him there and letting him get pelters from the fans because, not so surprisingly, he's not a defender.
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Its possible that had something to do with it, not because the ref was annoyed by his bleating, but because the ref was convinced that the red must had descended and knew that he was out to put himself about. He was a loose canon and was looking to hurt our players.thenewbie said:I wonder if the 2nd red would have been a red if it had been anyone except the absolute cockwomble who'd been in the refs ear after the (totally deserved) first one...
We said this at the time. It wasn't an elbow, but his forearm into the back of the neck with such force was deliberate and intended to hurt/injure.
He fully deserved his red, but not all refs would have been brave enough to furnish a second so soon after the first.5 -
I think Leaburn gives Tanganga a cheeky push which makes that jump look more silly than it was.
But you can't be leading with your arm like that. It's a red all day. Both were.6 -
Was not able to make it today or watch, sounds like that was for the best.19/20 we had 28 points from 26 games, this time 32 (with more home games to come than away), so this win was huge to keep us ahead of that season (as a comparison).Sometimes football teams don’t perform. The fact we did not turn up, but still won, maybe means the footballing powers that be are finally letting us start our recovery (rather than pushing us back down there again).3
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He had quite a hard shot that the keeper saved at the near post. He also put in a few decent crosses. I think he’s the least of our problems right now, albeit not getting enough goals or assists.queensland_addick said:
According to some on this site, TC would have 2 defenders on him, walking to his car!guinnessaddick said:
So with 2 on TC, that left 6 other out field players for them, no wonder we found it so hard in the second half.Southbank said:
Campbell had two men marking him every time he got the ball. Apter should have been on the side to take advantage of that.RonnieMoore said:First half Sheff Utd started as expected front foot , full of confidence the good thing was we stayed in the game .. i do question NJ team selection in midfield and that caused us issues the whole game .. Anderson ?? the only reason we were in the game at HT was Kaminski… two or three excellent saves and was clear MOM … then the sending offs and the changes …. Don’t think NJ done enough at ht we should have stretched the play but didn’t .. good goalfrom Carey after knock down from Dykes .. but then we got it wrong , don’t get me wrong Sheff Utd never looked like scoring second half but we didn’t go for the kill .. we did not keep procession well enough especially at the back , the crowd did not help and when played the ball forward Sheff Utd coped well which is what they wanted .. Campbell had no one marking him at all and he had so much space and time yet again failed to deliver a killer cross he was poor .. why oh why Apter not playing .. .. we huffed and puffed but it got a little nervous cause it was a massive result .. at the end of the day it was massive 3 points against a team who were in top form .. does not matter how you get it , performance it’s about winning and we did .. we seen it thousands of times that sending offs effects the other team more … but today I think NJ got it badly wrong both in starting line up and at ht with the subs and his game management through the second half
I only saw him in acres of space for the most part and any winger would love that amount of freedom in this league.
Unfortunately despite looking dangerous on multiple occasions, he once again created very little and didn't have a single shot.
Am I a TC hater?, no, he livened us up considerably, but his end product is pretty woeful.6 -
Admittedly I watched it on the CATV, but we were totally out of touch in midfield, and looked bereft of any ideas, whilst the defence worked their socks off trying to compensate.
Dykes looked a handful up top, and a great headed assist for Carey’s goal, and TC was good in spurts, but I hope they find themselves before Tuesday ‘cos Derby will have 11 players 🙏1 -
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He's out top goal scorer by 3 goals, hasn't been up to his normal standards recently, but pisstaker is ridiculousBilly_Mix said:KAMINSKI: kept us in it again if he’d been 5% off we’d have been 3 nil down in 20 minutes with worse to come
BREE: hopelessly one footed shoulda got hooked after about 15 minutes
RAMSAY: fit? Looked like a pub player
JONES: struggled with 2 clunkers either side
GILLESPHEY: donkey
CLARKE: good debut scandalously underused by his colleagues when in oceans of space
ANDERSON: industrious but headless chicken needs to realise he doesn’t have to play at 100mph all the time
RANKIN-COSTELLO: overrun first half les bad 2nd
KNIBBS: lightweight and lack of effort whenever he starts - hope the injury isn’t too serious
LEABURN: worked hard but had negligible service
KELMAN: looked disinterested and couldn’t find a pass
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Subs: CAREY: utterly shameful didn’t try a leg couldn’t even get one corner or free kick right pops up with a goal but he has been shaming the shirt for weeks now
CAMPBELL: Pacy but one dimensional
DYKES: Showed what he’s all about with his first two involvements- 1 assist then smashed a defender The team then singularly failed to get the ball anywhere near him for the rest of the game
What the fuck was NJ watching? Looks like he’s lost the plot Keeps putting square pegs in round holes and picking pisstakers like Carey and Knibbs if we go down by goal difference it’s all on the manager
What defeatist moron keeps everybody back to defend set plays when we have a 2 man advantage ?
11 back is always a fuckwit choice cos there’s no out ball and there is always at least one chump who’s a liability at the back - today was as demented as it was dismal
Good to see Godden back even if subbing him on for the final throw on was A grade suicidal mental nonsense
Must mean we won’t see the desperately disappointing Olaofe again
Need to be 300% better on Tuesday to avoid a shallacking And better again to compete with smallwall and Leicester
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Tough watch, and I think people are rightly frustrated. Everything can change though, and Derby on Tuesday we could/should be looking better. Let’s wait and see!2
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Horrible game to watch i have to agree.
But the target at the start of the season was survival and nothing has changed.
50 points should guarantee we stay up so 18 more points needed from 20 games.
Just stay up and strengthen in the summer.4 -
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A well worked goal from us; a great ball over the top by Gillesphey, brilliantly headed down by Dykes for a well placed finished by Carey.2
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Sheff Utd fans proper showing themselves up on socials. Cant be many more cities in the world with two more awful clubs.
We’ve had 9 points of them both so far this season, so that’s nice.
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Seen some replays on the stream and both red carda were justified. The first one was a really awful challenge.covered_end_junior said:The first is high and a red for me.Not sure about the second from the screenshot I’ve taken tbh…3 -
Weird game of football. Sheffield United should have been 3 goals up after 30 minutes and then they absolutely had a shocker with both sending offs to hand the 3 points to us in the second half.The crowd were getting edgy second half but it was about keeping the ball after we went a goal up. In an ideal world we would all love a 2nd or 3rd against 9 men. I make Jones right on that.
Short term that’s a very handy 3 points for us and will go a long way in our battle to stay up this season.
Long term based on that first half and mainly what I have seen so far this season, we are miles behind the majority in this division. If we stay up we would have to spend twice as much as we did back in the summer to be competitive.Onto Tuesday and another opportunity to pick up another win.5 -
I think that Nathan Jones was a little bit canny yesterday in his team selection. The team definitely had an experimental look about it, with only the front two, as a combination, being recognisable, the midfield contained only Rankin Costello, who could be considered a starter and he probably needs game time more than anyone. As for the wingbacks, well Clark hasn't started for a year and poor old Bree was forced to play on his dead foot, and with Gillie and a ring rusty Ramsay starting it definitely looked like we used the game as one we weren't expected to win. Two big games coming up, against Derby, the return of Coventry and Berry is probably certain and I think Burke will start instead of Ramsay. Please get fit Amari Bell and Josh Edwards because if we don't get that left side sorted then we will slip into trouble.2
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I agree, each season in the Championship we will improve its not going to happen over night. Both signings played well yesterday, we need to trust Jones that he knows what he is doing.shirty5 said:Weird game of football. Sheffield United should have been 3 goals up after 30 minutes and then they had absolutely had a shocker with both sending offs to hand the 3 points to us in the second half.The crowd were getting edgy second half but it was about keeping the ball after we went a goal up. In an ideal world we would all love a 2nd or 3rd against 9 men. I make Jones right on that.
Short term that’s a very handy 3 points for us and will go a long way in our battle to stay up this season.
Long term based on that first half and mainly what I have seen so far this season, we are miles behind the majority in this division. If we stay up we would have to spend twice as much as we did back in the summer to be competitive.Onto Tuesday and another opportunity to pick up another win.
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Unless I'm mistaken we just beat THE form team in the division over the last 10 league games. Yes, we were poor, yes, we were lucky, but anything against 9, 10 or 11 of this Chris Wilder side is, in my eyes, a bonus. I'm much more confident that will take points off Derby than I was against this outfit. That's 3 games undefeated in the league now and hopefully that will increase to 4 on Tuesday, at which point I will be feeling a lot, lot happier.10
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Also, Jones himself went ballistic several times on the sidelines in the second half when we weren't moving the ball quickly enough and misplacing passes... Exactly the same frustration in the moment as the rest of ususetobunkin said:Just seen the NJ interview. Absolutely agree lucky not to be in League 2 and he has loads of credit for pushing us on.
But he should still acknowledge the fans win loose or draw.
I know we are not going to win every week, but I do think we should win by more than 1 goal against a nine man team.4 -
I got back late last night after the game.
I resisted posting anything as I felt like many on here.
Having now read all the posts my more measured comment would be yes - "3 points" is everything and I'll take it if course. I will also try to understand those who comment about not going all out for more goals against 9 men.....
What I am amazed with however was to note the complete inability to attack and pass forward by many of our players even when the pitch was wide open in front of them?
It is almost as if this is an anathema to them? They simply are not pre- programmed to do it and didn't know how to do it?
Maybe Nathan Jones has so engrained his "soak it all up then try and snatch a win" mentality in them that they were comatose when faced by 9 men and an open pitch? Nosebleed time?!
Many have said that we played well at the start if the season and we have lost confidence and have had injuries. Accepted - to a point but I would expect pro footballers to have more basic ability going forward than they showed - even at league 1 level!
Still as I say 3 points is everything but blimey - come on lads pick it up a bit against Derby eh?
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Sheff United had 7 wins in 10 games coming into this and were the form team in the league. That is more important an indicator than their position. It was always going to be a difficult game. I think they jumped all over us and played with a lot of aggression. As a result we were suffocated. Something we were doing to teams last season and the start of this. Although they were doing this higher up the pitch and were successfully bullying our midfield. We do have to thank Kaminski who made a couple of great saves. No way should they have had a pen. Bamford should have tried a shot but felt a touch on his back and went over.
The game changed on two bits of their aggresive play, which was fine and successful up to then, going wrong. The first sending off was a dangerous out of control tackle. Stevie Wonder would have seen it was a red card so Wilderis embaressing himself a bit. Sometimes a player has to know when not to go for the ball. The second was a clear red in front of the ref. You can not jump leading with your elbow and make contact with you opponents head with any part of your harm. Was Carey hurt, probably not but that is not what the ref has to consider. He gave the decision straight away because it was in front of him and he knows the laws of the game. Wilder talking about intent is rubbish. There is always a decision to be made how you attack the ball and these were two stupid decisions which resulted in two red cards which effectively cost them the game.
Then we set out in the second half how fans wanted us to play throughout it. We had a great opportunity just before we scored when their defender made a last ditch header to stop Leaburn scoring but we got our goal moments later. Then they had to play deep and catch us on the break and we had the option of really going for the second but percentage wise it is unlikely a team playing that way Is going to break you down if you have a defensive mindset. The importance of the three points has to be considered. United posed no threat to our goal after that and we did look more like scoring although we weren't really going for it. I accept that. What I would say is if you are trying to win a game, it is a legitimate option if that is all that matters and we know Jones has that approach. I don't have a problem with that and we had a few away games last season were we won 1-0 and didn't really deserve to. It is about results and those moaning IMO should only do so if United had chances, even half or quarter chances in the second half but they didn't.
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It's nearly all been said. Kaminski, Clarke, Jones, Campbell, Leaburn and Dykes can hold their head up. The rest should take a long hard look at themselves.
I'm sorry to say this but I really do think that Karoy Anderson is nowhere near good enough to be in a Championship midfield. Ok as a substitute to add some energy and shore things up but lacking in technical ability, speed of thought and ambition.3 -
I’m a bit puzzled by the plan for Tuesday without Bree unless we pull something out the bag against the odds there. Does Clarke have two 90s in a row in his tank, given that was his first in a year?Yesterday was the opportunity to keep Bree on the right alongside the returning Ramsay with Clarke coming on for the last 30 or so to ease him in. OK, that would have meant TC playing LWB all match or otherwise Fullah as he did (modestly successfully) at Birmingham. Bree really wasn’t up to playing on the left which was bad for him and his possible last impression here.As it is, it feels like we’ve given ourselves a proper / risky selection headache for Derby at both RWB and LWB. Really hoping we don’t end up breaking Clarke by overplaying him too soon.4
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that first half is what our team looks like when TC isn't in it - nowhere to go with the ball - if JRS signed tomorrow he would transform this side - b like putting small on the other wing last year - sheff utd swarmed all over us coz we had zero threat2
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Morning after post. Don’t get me wrong, I was as pissed off as everyone else was, How is it possible to win and feel like that?.
But take a step back. We are pretty much all agreed that survival is all we want for this season. That means finishing 21st, or for the optimists amongst us, finishing around 18th. What kind of season do you get, If you finish 18th – in any league? A shit one, that’s what. you lose far more games than you win, and that’s because your squad is weaker than most of the other clubs in the division. A team that finishes 18th does not play heroically in all the games it loses like we did against Leicester. Leicester was an outlier. That means there will be some horrible results – like Southampton – and some really strange things going on in some games, like yesterday. Does it mean we spend most of the season worrying about relegation? Well yes – every team that finishes 21st spends most of the season worrying about relegation.
Am I okay with it after watching what I watched yesterday and other games?. Of course I’m not. I fully understand the overall level of frustration with yesterday, and Nathan Jones needs to do a better job of understanding it too. But in another way, I am with him in his own frustration. He is right when he says we are unable to compete with the resources of many of the clubs in this division, and Sheffield United is one of them. Some roll their eyes and demand that somehow “we” splash a load of money, Then we will be more like Sheffield United, aquad wise, presumably. But that’s where I think we are ignoring the elephant in the room.
Really everyone should try to follow Rich Cawley and Louis Mendez output. Pay for it, even if it means cutting some other pay TV subscription. During yesterday’s post match discussion, Louis mentioned that there is some kind of closed access website which clubs use to effectively advertise the type of player that they are looking to acquire, and they indicate the budget they’re prepared to discuss. Apparently Sheffield United have an entry on there. If I recall, the position is central midfield and their budget is £300,000 a month. Ambitious owners? shows what our owners need to do in order to compete? Please. That money isn’t coming out of the owner’s pocket, it is coming from the Premier League thanks to the ridiculous way in which English football is organised, and we all collectively should own that situation.12 -
Is this official, or your personal point of view? I ask because I find the thought of four more years like this one quite depressing.bromdog said:
Spot on. Fans need to take a step back and see where we are. Yes the performances aren’t always the greatest watch but things take time. The next 4 years are about settling into the championship, then let’s try and kick on. Getting on the teams back is only going to end one way.Redrobo said:“But he and the players now seem to be stuck in that negative mode, and can't snap out of it.”
I really do think that applies more to some fans.
When Jones arrived we were a broken Club going backwards at an alarming rate. Staff had been cut to the bone, scouting seemed none existent, numerous managers were tried - and failed, relegation to league 2 looked like a real possibility.
We have all come such a long way in such a short time. Yes the squad is short of some real quality, and yes, the quality below 1st team players is a lot lower than we need. Perhaps promotion came a bit too early on the journey - I wouldn’t change that as I love the Championship.
The squads of every other team cost more and get paid more. On paper we should lose every game.
But Jones has created a team. They have the belief and give everything they have to our team.
For me, the biggest threat to survival this season is us the fans. If we don’t give 100% as well, then we are not keeping up our end of the deal.
We have to give Jones and the team the love so they can continue the fight.
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Whoever get promoted from League One this season and in the future are unlikely to have the spending power of Birmingham and Wrexham.Stig said:
Is this official, or your personal point of view? I ask because I find the thought of four more years like this one quite depressing.bromdog said:
Spot on. Fans need to take a step back and see where we are. Yes the performances aren’t always the greatest watch but things take time. The next 4 years are about settling into the championship, then let’s try and kick on. Getting on the teams back is only going to end one way.Redrobo said:“But he and the players now seem to be stuck in that negative mode, and can't snap out of it.”
I really do think that applies more to some fans.
When Jones arrived we were a broken Club going backwards at an alarming rate. Staff had been cut to the bone, scouting seemed none existent, numerous managers were tried - and failed, relegation to league 2 looked like a real possibility.
We have all come such a long way in such a short time. Yes the squad is short of some real quality, and yes, the quality below 1st team players is a lot lower than we need. Perhaps promotion came a bit too early on the journey - I wouldn’t change that as I love the Championship.
The squads of every other team cost more and get paid more. On paper we should lose every game.
But Jones has created a team. They have the belief and give everything they have to our team.
For me, the biggest threat to survival this season is us the fans. If we don’t give 100% as well, then we are not keeping up our end of the deal.
We have to give Jones and the team the love so they can continue the fight.
Time to step up and get right behind them Tuesday.
The Wendie's situation helps us this time though.
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