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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Derby County: Tuesday 20th January 2026: KO 19:45
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You can’t just wake up and decide to play in the second half when you are already a goal down.
A honest bunch of toilers but no quality bar one or two amongst the lot of them. But that’s a Jones side for you7 -
Sorry, Doc wants Jones out of the club or vice versa?Beckboy said:Fullah comes on and gives us that attacking link up play .Needs start more now for me ,and what the hell has Apter done to Jones ?.Someone on other site saying Doc and Jones have had big fall out .And wants him out the club0 -
Obviously jones isnt ever going to change (opposing teams where ex manager singing ‘nathan jones your football is shit’etc)
But it is worrying when jones acknowledges we dont have wing backs but still persists on the formation. Very amorimTc to me has looked frustrated for months.We still believe1 -
Sorry Jones wants him out allegedlyFortune 82nd Minute said:
Sorry, Doc wants Jones out of the club or vice versa?Beckboy said:Fullah comes on and gives us that attacking link up play .Needs start more now for me ,and what the hell has Apter done to Jones ?.Someone on other site saying Doc and Jones have had big fall out .And wants him out the club0 -
A far better performance than Saturdays.
Fantastic goal from Campbell.I’m disappointed, I really thought we could have got more from the game but I can’t fault Jones or the players. I genuinely believe that more often than not they are doing the best they can to keep us in this division and I suspect they can still do it.
Up the Addicks!8 -
Far too easy to play against. Non existant midfield. Left hand side of the team is hopeless, if Gillesphy never played for us again I wouldn't care. No leaders on the field barring Lloyd Jones. As a collective I have never seen so many players without a footballing brain. It been a long time since I have seen a group who to a man are unable to do the basics right - pass to a team mate, move the ball quickly, movement off the ball etc etc. We are an absolute disaster at the moment.
Nathan Jones is in credit for gaining the promotion, but how far does the fanbase's paitience stretch? I am saying it every week - we set up with a baffling starting 11, it doesn't work, we are played through at ease. go 1 or 2 goals down and end up chasing the game. I am utterly sick of attritional (totally shit) football. We are ugly to watch - if you are winning it is just about acceptable - if you aren't picking up results you look like a pub team.
If we don't, as a minimum see an athletic ball carrying midfielder, a left back, a left sided centre back and if Lloyd is injured a leader at the back I fear for us. Genuinely have no idea where the next win is coming from. Millwall is going to be a massacre.14 -
I don’t see how a team 4 pts off the drop zone can already be relegated. Frustrating and poor performance overall, and it’s just not clicking at the moment, but I can’t stand these ‘throw in the towel’ we’re doomed comments.The left side continues to be a problem and needs sorting. The likes of Anderson and Gillesphey are playing in a division above their ceiling and as Garry Manilow pointed out, the likes of TC have found it a tough ask to step up.
But we’re still very much in the mix to stay up. We absolutely need to add in the next couple of weeks or the season could catch up with us, but we need to keep the faith. I think Jones has lost his way a bit with team selection recently and hopefully he’ll see tonight’s set up wasn’t quite right. Tough game on Saturday regardless of our pathetic record against Millwall, but equally, hopefully some bloody good motivation for them.22 -
You can’t keep going into games where the plan is to not concede and hope you nick a goal. It is so obvious that any player we have that has any kind of creative intent such as JRC, Apter, Fullah will be sacrificed in favour of starting negative work horses. I’m sure NJ will be coming out with the usual bollox but it’s him that is setting up the team and it’s not working nor will it as teams have worked out that we have no threat so are not worried by us. I’m not in anyway in the Jones out camp but if he doesn’t change we are in real trouble as I think Oxford will start picking up results with there transfer business lately7
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Because we are only still ‘in the mix to stay up’ because we were flying at the start and accumulated a lot of points early. Our last 15 games have seen us pickup barely any and so we are concerned about where they are coming from now.cabbles said:I don’t see how a team 4 pts off the drop zone can already be relegated. Frustrating and poor performance overall, and it’s just not clicking at the moment, but I can’t stand these ‘throw in the towel’ we’re doomed comments.The left side continues to be a problem and needs sorting. The likes of Anderson and Gillesphey are playing in a division above their ceiling and as Garry Manilow pointed out, the likes of TC have found it a tough ask to step up.
But we’re still very much in the mix to stay up. We absolutely need to add in the next couple of weeks or the season could catch up with us, but we need to keep the faith. I think Jones has lost his way a bit with team selection recently and hopefully he’ll see tonight’s set up wasn’t quite right. Tough game on Saturday regardless of our pathetic record against Millwall, but equally, hopefully some bloody good motivation for them.11 -
The point of a target man is to have someone close to him. Tbf the strikers do win headers but the second man is no where to be seen..10
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AndyG said:You can’t keep going into games where the plan is to not concede and hope you nick a goal. It is so obvious that any player we have that has any kind of creative intent such as JRC, Apter, Fullah will be sacrificed in favour of starting negative work horses. I’m sure NJ will be coming out with the usual bollox but it’s him that is setting up the team and it’s not working nor will it as teams have worked out that we have no threat so are not worried by us. I’m not in anyway in the Jones out camp but if he doesn’t change we are in real trouble as I think Oxford will start picking up results with there transfer business lately
Jones needs to admit when he gets it wrong and stop looking for scapegoats. If you keep failing when doing something one way the last thing you should be doing is the same again, and again.3 -
We are too passive and there is no creativity from midfield. TC and Gilly as a pairing is a disaster waiting to happen and invariably it does. I don't really blame TC as he's shoehorned into being a wing back. Might get away with it a bit more with Bell behind him but Gilly had a shocker tonight, although I don't blame the OG on him too much. Anderson isn't up to it for the Championship I'm afraid, can't even do the simple things right. Got yo pray Lloydy isn't out for too long. Not hindsight as I said it pre match but didn't think Dykes and Leaburn would work and it didn't. Don't think we will see that again.
Positives - TC second half, Kaminski, Fullah, Dykes, and Clarke who looks very decent.
Negatives - where the fuck is Apter?8 -
Surely it was us about 2 seasons ago?Clem_Snide said:Far too easy to play against. Non existant midfield. Left hand side of the team is hopeless, if Gillesphy never played for us again I wouldn't care. No leaders on the field barring Lloyd Jones. As a collective I have never seen so many players without a footballing brain. It been a long time since I have seen a group who to a man are unable to do the basics right - pass to a team mate, move the ball quickly, movement off the ball etc etc. We are an absolute disaster at the moment.
Nathan Jones is in credit for gaining the promotion, but how far does the fanbase's paitience stretch? I am saying it every week - we set up with a baffling starting 11, it doesn't work, we are played through at ease. go 1 or 2 goals down and end up chasing the game. I am utterly sick of attritional (totally shit) football. We are ugly to watch - if you are winning it is just about acceptable - if you aren't picking up results you look like a pub team.
If we don't, as a minimum see an athletic ball carrying midfielder, a left back, a left sided centre back and if Lloyd is injured a leader at the back I fear for us. Genuinely have no idea where the next win is coming from. Millwall is going to be a massacre.11 -
Also would love to know the stat of how many subs we have made at half time. Must be the highest in the league surely0
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Zero entertainment value.Too negative - even against 10 men.Derby were nothing special.6
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Felt much better than Saturday, especially second half with chances. Could’ve done without the weather going batshit.
its going to be injuries and lack of consistent first 11 that’s does us this season. We can play ok and win, it’s been there it fits and spurts (and the start of the season).
Derby felt like the Charlton from August to September.2 -
Another shite performance, jones partly to blame tonight again.
you just know we will roll over on Saturday too as we always do. Weak mentality, squad hasn’t got enough leaders4 -
Jones is the most likely manager to keep us up, but I don’t think we’ll stay up. Soon enough we’ll drop into the relegation zone and we won’t have enough to drag ourselves out of it. We are, essentially, a good League One team and we’ve been found out after getting away with it for a while at the start of the season.Not addressing the issues on our left side at the first opportunity in this January window is almost unbelievable and we’ll pay the price.18
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One positive Swindon is only 30 miles from me.
Awful..derby ordinary but knew how to win a game against crap opposition....owners you have 10 days to demonstrate to me you are serious.
You wont.2 -
Awful first half again - Anderson is out of his depth however hard he works.
Plodding and predictable and we're so wasteful around the 18 yard box. Should have got a point tonight but it all just fizzles out in attack.
Derby weren't great but ultimately were more decisive in attack.4 -
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When I saw our activity in the transfer market in summer, I think it's safe to say that the goal was to hopefully just about stay up or, failing that, keep most of the squad and bounce straight back up.AberystwythAddick said:
The amount of money we spent you think there would be some fight, poorly spent budget o no players that aren’t even in the squad. Should’ve brought in less for more at a higher qualitybobmunro said:You can criticise (are we allowed?) the players, manager, recruitment, tactics, team selection (tonight wtf?) but ultimately it boils down to one major factor - the squad is just not good enough for The Championship.
We have to hope that one of either Blackburn Rovers or Portsmouth do worse than us for the rest of the season. Otherwise we're gone.
Unfortunately, I think we'll be lucky to get more than two points before March.4 -
If Karoy Anderson isn’t playing in league 2 in a couple of years I’d be absolutely stunned. He tries bless him but he’s absolutely rubbish18
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On the plus side i finished work earlier than i feared
On the downside I went to the game which was hugely frustrating on a number of levels.
TCs goal was good though but we so shouls have won and had the capability to do so if we inly played positively from the start rather than always containment being the main tactic u til 60 mins. That only works when your defence doesn't fuck up so often and given how prone some of our defenders are to a fuck io you need a fuck ton of luck to win and we are currently running on luck fumes.
If Kaminski coipd come off his line or catch he'd be worth his wages but he can't and he isntZ
If we manage to stay up, ensuring Gillesphey doesnt plah for us again has to be a priority over the summer.
If we dont buy a left wing back or two we need to change system as playing the current one with makeshift wingbacks will get us relegated.
Clarke looks good, Ramsay shouldn't play unless fot, hopefully Lloyd Jones is not too serious an injury or we are fucked until he is back. Burke is fading.Not a good night to finish work earlier than expected on balance.0 -
Think Jones got it wrong again like Saturday … Anderson should not be anywhere near the starting 11 .. and if your going to play two tall strikers then play someone who can cross a ball and create chances like Apter … but we did not deserve to lose that game , Fullah mistake led to their second important second , finally 30 seconds of brilliance from TC problem was the other 96 mins was tosh … what a difference when we finally ditched the wing backs in the second half went to a flat back 4 perhaps now we will change our system .. superb save from
their keeper kept them in it .. … 3points out of two home games better then two draws .. so we move forward
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Anderson & Gillesphey are closer to league 2 level than the championship. Shambolic footballers - barring 3 or 4, the rest aren’t much better.I love Jones, but if he takes us down playing this ghastly football, I’d want him replaced by someone that plays football which doesn’t make me want to gouge my eyes out.9
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We are starting games by playing not to lose, we are letting in too many goals giving teams headstarts, we are not going to get away with that in the championship. NJ needs to start trying to win games, not to not lose them. Every time Ramsay comes back from games out he looks so far off it for a few games, don’t get what’s going on with that. NJ tactics at the moment are making it very difficult to stick with him, he really needs to get it together.6
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A freefalling West Brom will probably be in contention too. They look in real real trouble.AS1987 said:
When I saw our activity in the transfer market in summer, I think it's safe to say that the goal was to hopefully just about stay up or, failing that, keep most of the squad and bounce straight back up.AberystwythAddick said:
The amount of money we spent you think there would be some fight, poorly spent budget o no players that aren’t even in the squad. Should’ve brought in less for more at a higher qualitybobmunro said:You can criticise (are we allowed?) the players, manager, recruitment, tactics, team selection (tonight wtf?) but ultimately it boils down to one major factor - the squad is just not good enough for The Championship.
We have to hope that one of either Blackburn Rovers or Portsmouth do worse than us for the rest of the season. Otherwise we're gone.
Unfortunately, I think we'll be lucky to get more than two points before March.4 -
Realistic opportunity of 3 points not taken tonight, but with clear gaps in the starting 11, players playing injured and half the outfield changed again, it comes as no real surprise.
Too many things are consistently going wrong now; Recruitment. Fitness, tactics, player confidence, in game management etc
The likelihood of this season ending in despair is trending higher.I’m sure we’ll be told though tomorrow though that everyone is working night and day to address things..18 -
What on earth was that 1st half all about ?
It was so negative from CAFC.
I would've have put CBT on the right against CAFC even though he was giving Ramsey a difficult 1st half if I was the Derby gaffer. Millwall have noticed !
How it wasn't 0-3 at HT was due to two bad misses by the opposition.
Nathan needs to own this defeat and work out why so many players form has dipped. Still not enough skill when attacking but obviously a much better 2nd half but that 1st half was turgid and depressing and playing two big strikers up front can only work if you can pull the ball back for Miles and Dykes to run on to.
I thought we looked like a league 2 team in the 1st half and not one in contention at the top of that division either. Devoid of any nous.
Saturday is a massive game and we need a positive result.
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We know Ramsay can't play RWB so why not have him as LCB and Clarke as RWB.
As for our front, never played together, two what were we thinking.
Never saw any movement from them to pull defenders away and certainly didn't work.
Credit to the team for only losing 1-2 the way they were set up.
At least Apter and Olaofe had a good rest ready for Saturday.5
