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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,825
    Looking so far at the signings of Hernandez, Rollison, Clarke and Chambers who have played less games than anyone I'm not overly convinced the Board will give Nathan the money to bring in fit quality players.... in a week!

    We need to create so much through the middle otherwise we're toast.

    However we have to look forward to Leicester as a chance to see redemption all round.... But a worrying stat shows they've not kept a clean sheet in 23 games!
    Last team we played with a similar stat was Norwich on Boxing Day. After shutting us out that day they have kept just 1 clean sheet......their 5-0 win at WBA.

    I believe the only teams not to score against Norwich this season are us, Blackburn & WBA.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 4,006
    If apter goes out I assume he’s causing an issue in the camp?
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,943
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,148
    If apter goes out I assume he’s causing an issue in the camp?

    I reckon his issue is not getting any minutes on the pitch in a team that's been shocking for quite a while now.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,943
    I don’t think we can really know Jones views on Apter until we’ve sorted the left side of our defence out. He can’t play Apter on the right with what we’ve had on the left or you get what happened against Southampton. Once we’ve sorted our left side of defence out Apter should come back into the team 
  • CAFCFW05
    CAFCFW05 Posts: 25
    I know Tanto missed a few one on ones but he least he got in good positions and made runs in behind. Getting rid of him & Apter on loan just shows that NJ won’t change from 532 and I think the lack of change will send us down. Very happy to be proved wrong
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,869
    Would find Apter going out on loan completely and utterly baffling. He's been terribly managed by NJ. 

    Tanto I get it with the options we've got up top now with Godden back. 
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 4,006
    NabySarr said:
    I don’t think we can really know Jones views on Apter until we’ve sorted the left side of our defence out. He can’t play Apter on the right with what we’ve had on the left or you get what happened against Southampton. Once we’ve sorted our left side of defence out Apter should come back into the team 
    Not if he’s looking to loan him out he won’t 
  • CombeMartin
    CombeMartin Posts: 130
    My comment about Dykes and Clarke maybe earning £10K a week (at least) was in response to the comment about the owners not financing new signings. They are, by agreeing to pay the huge (by ordinary standards) wages for however many weeks.  Putting your "hands in your pockets" isn't just to pay a transfer fee ! 

    I appreciate we are already paying a much bigger wage bill than last season ! 
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,069
    edited 5:46PM
    Not getting an extra left sider early season has cost us.  If Chambers is seen as a replacement for Edwards , we still need another left sided defender especially if Bell is out for a long time.

    Personally in addition .  I would like an experienced centre back and some improvements in the midfield.

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,943
    NabySarr said:
    I don’t think we can really know Jones views on Apter until we’ve sorted the left side of our defence out. He can’t play Apter on the right with what we’ve had on the left or you get what happened against Southampton. Once we’ve sorted our left side of defence out Apter should come back into the team 
    Not if he’s looking to loan him out he won’t 
    That’s not been said though. There is no indication we are looking to loan Apter out. Cawley has said they’d be most likely, but that’s just from them not playing at the moment rather than he’s heard we are looking to move them on 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,869
    NabySarr said:
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 
    With our current striking options he just feels like the odd one out. I don't really see where he's going to get any game time from and if there's the chance to go back to Stockport under a manager that got the best out of him , it makes sense for everyone. 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,549
    I'd have played Tanto yesterday.  Not that I rate him but he is big and strong and with a point to prove v Millwall.  Would have given everything.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,943
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 
    With our current striking options he just feels like the odd one out. I don't really see where he's going to get any game time from and if there's the chance to go back to Stockport under a manager that got the best out of him , it makes sense for everyone. 
    If he goes to Stockport and they get promoted then there’s probably a good chance we can recoup the fee we paid for him by selling back for the same price 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,869
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 
    With our current striking options he just feels like the odd one out. I don't really see where he's going to get any game time from and if there's the chance to go back to Stockport under a manager that got the best out of him , it makes sense for everyone. 
    If he goes to Stockport and they get promoted then there’s probably a good chance we can recoup the fee we paid for him by selling back for the same price 
    I do suspect that could quite easily happen. Mbick will come straight into our first team next season probably for Dykes, DK will be around too as more of that run in behind/poacher role too. 
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,492
    fenaddick said:
    Quote from Cawley’s latest (excellent piece). Note he’s saying of our squad they’re the most likely to be loaned, not that a loan is necessarily likely (if that makes sense)

    The likes of Apter and Olaofe, bought for fees in the summer, look most likely to make temporary exits 
    Jones needs to go if this is true 
  • CombeMartin
    CombeMartin Posts: 130
    Signing an experienced left sided player is like "pulling hens teeth", they are rare compared with other players.  Clubs don't want to release a good one because they are difficult to replace .
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,209
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 
    With our current striking options he just feels like the odd one out. I don't really see where he's going to get any game time from and if there's the chance to go back to Stockport under a manager that got the best out of him , it makes sense for everyone. 
    If he goes to Stockport and they get promoted then there’s probably a good chance we can recoup the fee we paid for him by selling back for the same price 
    I’d think it very unlikely they’d buy him back at the same price.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,869
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 
    With our current striking options he just feels like the odd one out. I don't really see where he's going to get any game time from and if there's the chance to go back to Stockport under a manager that got the best out of him , it makes sense for everyone. 
    If he goes to Stockport and they get promoted then there’s probably a good chance we can recoup the fee we paid for him by selling back for the same price 
    I’d think it very unlikely they’d buy him back at the same price.
    Tricky one to really guess. We paid circa £1.5m and I'd be surprised if we were willing to take much of a haircut on that. 
  • Melrose
    Melrose Posts: 842
    MrBurns said:
    fenaddick said:
    Quote from Cawley’s latest (excellent piece). Note he’s saying of our squad they’re the most likely to be loaned, not that a loan is necessarily likely (if that makes sense)

    The likes of Apter and Olaofe, bought for fees in the summer, look most likely to make temporary exits 
    Jones needs to go if this is true 
    Jones need to go, regardless!

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  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 4,006
    Melrose said:
    MrBurns said:
    fenaddick said:
    Quote from Cawley’s latest (excellent piece). Note he’s saying of our squad they’re the most likely to be loaned, not that a loan is necessarily likely (if that makes sense)

    The likes of Apter and Olaofe, bought for fees in the summer, look most likely to make temporary exits 
    Jones needs to go if this is true 
    Jones need to go, regardless!
    Classic, just like with Curbs. That did us well. 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,385
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 
    With our current striking options he just feels like the odd one out. I don't really see where he's going to get any game time from and if there's the chance to go back to Stockport under a manager that got the best out of him , it makes sense for everyone. 
    If he goes to Stockport and they get promoted then there’s probably a good chance we can recoup the fee we paid for him by selling back for the same price 
    I’d think it very unlikely they’d buy him back at the same price.
    Tricky one to really guess. We paid circa £1.5m and I'd be surprised if we were willing to take much of a haircut on that. 
    We paid for a player that all parties thought could make the step up in the championship. They'd be buying a player who couldn't make it into a struggling championship team. No way would they pay the same price
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,061
    edited 6:49PM
    Major said:
    Redrobo said:
    Major said:
    Sword65pf said:
    cafcfan said:
    I'll repeat what I said earlier, Apter has had a bust up with Jones and won't play for Charlton again. (Unless Jones goes first presumably.)
    Maybe they both need to be grownups and get on with it. 
    Apter signed on to play football.  Being happy to sit around doing bugger all, while less talented players get in the team is what you'd call grown up?
    I think Apter has every right to be pissed off and to let Jones know it.
    No.
    What the grown up thing to do is to knock on the managers door and find out what the manager wants from you and then work hard to deliver that improvement.
    The suggestion that players have some sort of right to decide that they are more talented and can then throw their toys out of the pram if they are not picked is quite frankly ridiculous.
    You have no idea what conversations took place. Either to persuade him to sign, or since. All I know is, he is a young talent being ignored. I get why he would want a word with the Manager. If he did that, I wonder if said Manager was grown up about it.
    So how do you know that Apter has every right to be pissed off, if you dont know what conversations have taken place?
    Because he isn't playing? DUH!

    (Thanks for chiming in, by the way).
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,848
    NabySarr said:
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 

    For the sake of 10 minutes, id give him another go at the position.
  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 127
    If apter goes out I assume he’s causing an issue in the camp?
    He’s not causing an issue.
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,061
    If apter goes out I assume he’s causing an issue in the camp?
    More conjecture. Pathetic.
  • Berkshire1970
    Berkshire1970 Posts: 97
    Melrose said:
    MrBurns said:
    fenaddick said:
    Quote from Cawley’s latest (excellent piece). Note he’s saying of our squad they’re the most likely to be loaned, not that a loan is necessarily likely (if that makes sense)

    The likes of Apter and Olaofe, bought for fees in the summer, look most likely to make temporary exits 
    Jones needs to go if this is true 
    Jones need to go, regardless!
    Classic, just like with Curbs. That did us well. 
    Exactly, just like Curbs! They’ll never learn….More importantly not many managers with a good record would fancy the job anyway 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,962
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    NabySarr said:
    Loaning out Apter would be a big mistake in my opinion.
    Think the same with Tanto. Bundles of energy, pace and strong. I know hes had a couple of chances he should have scored but his energy up top is un-matched. 

    Also, if Jones had it in him to change the system, he could be used a winger.

    Apter aswell would suit a changed system. Fullah, TC, Tanto and Apter are decent options on the wings.
    Tanto isn’t a winger, he’s not up to it defensively. He played there for 10 minutes at Coventry and looked so lost, I don’t think he got near the full back and it cost us goals. He’s definitely not an option as a winger 

    I wouldn’t mind keeping him as cover up top but I don’t really disagree with him not being involved at the moment 
    With our current striking options he just feels like the odd one out. I don't really see where he's going to get any game time from and if there's the chance to go back to Stockport under a manager that got the best out of him , it makes sense for everyone. 
    If he goes to Stockport and they get promoted then there’s probably a good chance we can recoup the fee we paid for him by selling back for the same price 
    I’d think it very unlikely they’d buy him back at the same price.
    More - he has now played and scored in the championship 😂
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,962
    We have players in the squad to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. I hate 3-5-2 and want a bit of variety
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 4,006
    Major said:
    If apter goes out I assume he’s causing an issue in the camp?
    More conjecture. Pathetic.
    Yeah fair enough. I just meant in terms of being unhappy being a squad player rather than behaviour, because of course no one knows apart from inside the building.