How big are we?
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CAFCTrev said:JustFloydRoad said:CAFCTrev said:I always assumed that being a London club with a decent stadium would make us an obvious target in the current era of billionaire and US ownership. It’s still baffling to see clubs like Bournemouth*/Wrexham** et al getting taken over and pumped with money while we’re left waiting.We are owned by Global Football Partners , which includes several American investors, including Gabriel Brener, Joshua Friedman, and Munir Javeri.*- the club operates under Foley's multi-club model, with actor Michael B. Jordan holding a minority stake in the ownership group**- Wrexham's ownership model blends Hollywood personalities with strategic financial partners, leveraging brand and content creation (like the Welcome to Wrexham documentary) to fuel growth, with recent major investments from Apollo and the Allyn family.The Allyn Family (New York): Known for owning the medical device company Welch Allyn for over 100 years before selling it in 2015. They focus on purpose-driven, community-focused investments.Apollo Sports Capital (ASC): An investment group focused on global sports, with ties to CEO Al Tylis, who previously invested in Mexican club Necaxa alongside Wrexham owners Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney.Would you like that for Charlton?
Well, if the question is whether I’d like to be a club in the play-offs like Wrexham, or one comfortably mid-table in the Premier League like Bournemouth, that’s a pretty easy yes.
If the concern is about patchwork investment groups and whether that model works for Charlton, then I think it comes down to long-term security and intent. The two examples mentioned both appear stable and well-backed for the foreseeable future, which is ultimately what most fans want.
We don't want the Multi Club model unless we are the Primary Club (tried that and it failed) and although our story is a tough one, it doesn't really compare to that of a Wrexham does it.1 -
JustFloydRoad said:CAFCTrev said:JustFloydRoad said:CAFCTrev said:I always assumed that being a London club with a decent stadium would make us an obvious target in the current era of billionaire and US ownership. It’s still baffling to see clubs like Bournemouth*/Wrexham** et al getting taken over and pumped with money while we’re left waiting.We are owned by Global Football Partners , which includes several American investors, including Gabriel Brener, Joshua Friedman, and Munir Javeri.*- the club operates under Foley's multi-club model, with actor Michael B. Jordan holding a minority stake in the ownership group**- Wrexham's ownership model blends Hollywood personalities with strategic financial partners, leveraging brand and content creation (like the Welcome to Wrexham documentary) to fuel growth, with recent major investments from Apollo and the Allyn family.The Allyn Family (New York): Known for owning the medical device company Welch Allyn for over 100 years before selling it in 2015. They focus on purpose-driven, community-focused investments.Apollo Sports Capital (ASC): An investment group focused on global sports, with ties to CEO Al Tylis, who previously invested in Mexican club Necaxa alongside Wrexham owners Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney.Would you like that for Charlton?
Well, if the question is whether I’d like to be a club in the play-offs like Wrexham, or one comfortably mid-table in the Premier League like Bournemouth, that’s a pretty easy yes.
If the concern is about patchwork investment groups and whether that model works for Charlton, then I think it comes down to long-term security and intent. The two examples mentioned both appear stable and well-backed for the foreseeable future, which is ultimately what most fans want.
We don't want the Multi Club model unless we are the Primary Club (tried that and it failed) and although our story is a tough one, it doesn't really compare to that of a Wrexham does it.I understand the reluctance around multi-club models, especially given our history under Duchâtelet – that experience understandably makes people wary. But it does raise a bigger question: would we rather tread water in the lower leagues under a more traditional, single-owner setup, or accept being propelled to higher levels under a well-funded, ambitious multi-club structure?
Being the primary club clearly matters, but I’m not convinced a single owner automatically offers a higher batting average than a multi-club model. We’ve seen plenty of examples of both working and failing. Ultimately, it comes down to intent, competence and long-term commitment rather than the ownership structure itself.
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We're not a 'big' club and I doubt that we will ever will be, which is fine by me.5
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Too much competition in London is why we are not likely to get the massive investors, seven teams in the prem,CAFCTrev said:I always assumed that being a London club with a decent stadium would make us an obvious target in the current era of billionaire and US ownership. It’s still baffling to see clubs like Bournemouth/Wrexham et al getting taken over and pumped with money while we’re left waiting.
3 teams in the Championship, so you can spread the interest only so far.1 -
The spanner’s over at the toolbox will love this, they orgasm whenever we talk about how big we are. They really see it as a Willy waving contest. Their inferiority complex is enormous, and could be a fascinating thesis for somebody at Uni.We are, always have been, and always will be bigger than them. An that makes me happy, and really pisses them off.We are a BIG fish in Leauge 1 and a middling, who cares in the Championship. We are too big to become obscure, and to small to attract the level of investment to sustain, the push required to become a BIG player.
As for Millwall they are the footballing equivalent of Bonnie Blue. Like her everybodys heard of them, but they are to football, what she is to the Royal Shakespeare Company. Actually though Millwall have thousands of talented actors. All those nice young lads acting, like proper Bermondsey ard men.2 -
We are to London clubs what Preston are to Lancashire clubs.
Also Leicester in the East Midlands were the same size club as Charlton when we had Kermorgant and beat the Foxes at the valley when Yann scored and Vardy 1st joined from Fleetwood. The Premier winners and FA cup winners in the last decade are nearly our size again with their recent run !
Most of us could have joined mates from school and supported the "Big clubs" but we chose Charlton.
Other than 'fans' who started in the 7 years of Premiership football most on CL joined when we were Championship or 2nd division as it was know back in the day or even 3rd tier.
I'm quite happy if we are a competitive Championship team as the money needed to sustain a Premier club is off the scale which is why Burnley are a Yo-Yo team.
Could we be a Brighton or Brentford?
Getting harder to emulate those clubs as each season passes.2 -
We’re one of about 30 clubs who are basically all the same size and who see their fortunes wax and wane over time.3
