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POST-MATCH THREAD: Southampton v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 21st February 2026: KO 15:00

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,986
    I think Leaburn showed when he came on what a player he can be. He is at a crossroads and it feels like it is time to push on. Obviously I don't know the lad but it feels to me that a little more confidence might be all that is needed.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 1,675
    edited February 22
    I think Leaburn showed when he came on what a player he can be. He is at a crossroads and it feels like it is time to push on. Obviously I don't know the lad but it feels to me that a little more confidence might be all that is needed.
    I think he's caught up with his growth spurt and is realising that his height and strength are major assets.
    Having Dykes around to learn from can only help him too.
  • Would have lost another house backing Soton to win but the transformation in performance was as contrastingly good as the Pompey home game was bad from the previous match.
    Fairplay to our boys for turning it around .
    Really enjoyed today’s trip (not enough to want to go to WBA, the mrs has won the short straw for that to take petrol head ) good away day , plenty of old faces there, no not you Fanny you’re a youngster !!
    Also bumped in to @Mosscat who I hadn’t seen since that crazy trip to protest in Belgium , what year was that we couldn’t work it out?
    Great atmosphere from the away fans and the support was there even when losing .
    Shit traffic getting away from there but the buzz of a point made the journey a lot easier but the highlight was Fanny’s chocolate fingers , thank you and how on earth could you remember petrol heads real name when I even  , amazing memory ! 
    I hope she licked them afterwards!? 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,986
    edited February 22
    I think Leaburn showed when he came on what a player he can be. He is at a crossroads and it feels like it is time to push on. Obviously I don't know the lad but it feels to me that a little more confidence might be all that is needed.
    I think he's caught up with his growth spurt and is realising that his height and strength are major assets.
    They are amazing assets with his ability on the ball. If I was Jones I'd get him on an extended contract and get him in the gym in the summer.
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,948
    Massive point!

    If we can avoid defeat against WBA we start to look good. 

    A win and we are looking very good. 

    So pleased to wake up to that result, such a topsy Turvey season.


  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,986
    edited February 22
    He is an emotional man and doesn't mind giving it back. In terms of the abuse he gets, it is clearly over the top and he refers to the treatment of his family. I say good on him. We are no saints Iexcuse the pun), I'm sure we would be just as bad if Appleton came to the Valley. It is one thing I dislike about some football fans. Their total lack of standards.  
  • The 8th minute of this video covers the Charlton celebration and the head butt incident.

    https://youtu.be/nNfaRe5WZdY
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,378
    WSS said:
    You and they are Southampton 
    That makes no sense.

    Besides, what relevance has beating Man City or getting to a semi-final got to today’s match? NJ is so full of shit.
    He’s referencing his time as manager at Southampton where he beat Man City and got them to the Carabao semi as a dig at them.

    It is a weird one but it’s wound up all the right people and he knows it.
    I see. I still think he's a knob though. I can't stand people who like to wind people up. There are some like that on CL sometimes. They just make themselves unlikeable. What's the point? 
    Is this post a wind up? Fair play to NJ for giving it back. He got dogs abuse in the reverse game at The Valley and no doubt got some today. You go for it Nathan, it’s perfectly fine by me.
    No, it’s not a wind up. I don’t do wind ups. I just find I dislike NJ more and more as time goes on, regardless of our results.
    I love him!
    But I know how you feel. I can’t stand people who feel the need to wind people up either. Like going on social media  to call our manager who is doing a fantastic job a knob for instance.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,547
    I think Leaburn showed when he came on what a player he can be. He is at a crossroads and it feels like it is time to push on. Obviously I don't know the lad but it feels to me that a little more confidence might be all that is needed.
    He’s been playing well the last few months, I still wouldn’t rule out him ending the season as first choice target man ahead of Dykes.

    Dykes has played well too and is an improvement on Olaofe, but neither is he the second coming of Kermorgant.

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  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,034
    The Southampton goal was a lovely header. I suppose people might say Jones failed in that moment, personally I don’t agree, however imagine what might have been the score if Lloyd hadn’t brilliantly saved us from going behind in the third minute or so.
    Jones is head and shoulders player of the season for me…sorry Collins.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,406
    The 8th minute of this video covers the Charlton celebration and the head butt incident.

    https://youtu.be/nNfaRe5WZdY
    Wow. The Charlton TV stream ( or at least the cameraman at St Mary’s) didnt give a clear view at all. Here it’s very clear and we also see that the ref had a very clear view too. I think if it had been just the first “head-butt” the ref would have been right to conclude handbags and just dish out a  yellow to both, but the second one? When you hear both the vloggers and the fans around them all expecting a red, you know the ref has bottled that; which is a pity because as others have said, he was was generally decent. Its good to keep cards to a minimum but when that happens right in front of you….
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,179
    How is that not a red?!
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,284
    From that footage (and the view of the referee) defo a red card.  
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,650
    Pretty sure Downes kicked Leaburn during the scuffle after too. He should have gone
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,069
    edited February 22
    Watching that sourpuss and grumpy face Southampton vlog, total shite, and more focused on watching their ugly mugs, tel ya what, @Braziliance could teach 'em a thing or two...😂😂

    ...oh and yes, def a red there, very lucky
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,227
    Still think this is an absurd header. Gave Lloyd Jones and Kaminski absolutely no chance to do anything about it.

    https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/2025303425009779115?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    Id love Stewart to play for us, he’s mustard 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    Bailey said:
    Sword65pf said:
    One down side to today, I feel the need to mention, was the fella behind me in the 1st 10mins managed to cover every genre of abuse from doing things to Brees mum, racism, homophobic comments, need I go on , obviously lots of kids around, so I turned around and had a word saying it was far too much and not on,because quite honestly it was fucking filth, it didn’t go down well, he told me it’s football, anyway we had a few more words and he disappeared for the 2nd half and his gobby  mates shut up for the rest of the game. Just thought I’d mention as in a discussion the other day I got a bit of sarcasm because I’d said I hadn’t experienced at the valley, I still haven’t, but feel it remiss of me to not mention it when I do.
    A good proportion of Charlton fans at away games are so pissed and drugged up they don't know what stadium their in let alone the town. They spend the whole game slagging the players, the opposition fans and even their own.  When there not staggering to find their seats they just stand on the concourse getting more pissed.

    No idea why they go, but when the allocation is restricted they are denying a genuine fan who wants to see the game and support their team.
    A good proportion of Charlton fans watching away games ON THE STREAM are so pissed and drugged up they don't know what ROOM their in let alone the town. They spend the whole game slagging the players, the opposition fans and even their own.  When there not staggering to find their seats they just stand at the DRINKS CABINET getting more pissed.

    No idea why they WATCH but when THEIR STUPID COMMENTS APPEAR they are denying a genuine fan who wants to see the game and support their team.

    I know how you feel mate.
    You on something..........is watching on stream limiting other decent non drugged up fans from watching it then.
    Chippy I wasn't taking the piss, well not out of your post anyway, but we had posters on here declaring everyone in the team was shit, Nathan Jones was shit, the club is shit, if you look at my players marks, I've reflected that utter nonsense. But guess what, when Carey scored, they didn't write another word, strange that, so their sole purpose, it seems to me, is to slag the team and everything associated with it, one poster was demanding the substitution of Sichenje after 15 mins as guess what, 'he's shit' . Back to your post though, I really feel for you mate, you love supporting your team and the experience of an away game is being spoilt, is this a reflection of ,Charlton Athletic ? no it's what what happens in general at football grounds across the country, is their an answer, sadly no, Football segregation means that you are are in placed in the same area with people that you would avoid at all costs, who's to blame ? well no one really, why would any football club or local authority give access in other areas of the ground to those people, so pen them in and treat them all the same, it's been the same since the early seventies and I don't see it changing. 
  • WSS said:
    You and they are Southampton 
    That makes no sense.

    Besides, what relevance has beating Man City or getting to a semi-final got to today’s match? NJ is so full of shit.
    He’s referencing his time as manager at Southampton where he beat Man City and got them to the Carabao semi as a dig at them.

    It is a weird one but it’s wound up all the right people and he knows it.
    I see. I still think he's a knob though. I can't stand people who like to wind people up. There are some like that on CL sometimes. They just make themselves unlikeable. What's the point? 
    Is this post a wind up? Fair play to NJ for giving it back. He got dogs abuse in the reverse game at The Valley and no doubt got some today. You go for it Nathan, it’s perfectly fine by me.
    100% agree with this. Terrace humour / banter is one of the great things about being a football fan but when it crosses the line into nasty abuse directed at a player or manager I think it’s absolutely fine for that person to give it some back. The fans that give it out and then whine and whinge when someone responds are either too thick to understand why or so thin skinned that they run home to mummy. Either way good on NJ for fighting his own corner. 

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  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,203
    Watching that vlog I didn’t realise Keith Lemon was a saints fan 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,315
    Still think this is an absurd header. Gave Lloyd Jones and Kaminski absolutely no chance to do anything about it.

    https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/2025303425009779115?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    Id love Stewart to play for us, he’s mustard 
    Shame he's only good for about 20 games a season, has Reece Burke level injury issues 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,203
    edited February 22
    Don’t suppose anyone got a spare programme yesterday?, we didn’t manage to get one and my boy wanted one from his first away game 🤦🏻‍♂️
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    MarcusH26 said:
    Still think this is an absurd header. Gave Lloyd Jones and Kaminski absolutely no chance to do anything about it.

    https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/2025303425009779115?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    Id love Stewart to play for us, he’s mustard 
    Shame he's only good for about 20 games a season, has Reece Burke level injury issues 
    Where is Reece Burke now ? Lourdes ?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,315
    Bailey said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Still think this is an absurd header. Gave Lloyd Jones and Kaminski absolutely no chance to do anything about it.

    https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/2025303425009779115?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    Id love Stewart to play for us, he’s mustard 
    Shame he's only good for about 20 games a season, has Reece Burke level injury issues 
    Where is Reece Burke now ? Lourdes ?
    According to Cawleys podcast he was there yesterday but was the spare man not involved. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,769
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bailey said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Still think this is an absurd header. Gave Lloyd Jones and Kaminski absolutely no chance to do anything about it.

    https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/2025303425009779115?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    Id love Stewart to play for us, he’s mustard 
    Shame he's only good for about 20 games a season, has Reece Burke level injury issues 
    Where is Reece Burke now ? Lourdes ?
    According to Cawleys podcast he was there yesterday but was the spare man not involved. 
    Been on the naughty step since the Millwall debacle. I think with arrival of Sichenje, 23 years of age and hamstrings that work, Burke's first team opportunities may be limited, it is early days yet with Collins though and lets hope it works out. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,593
    Sword65pf said:
    Still slightly bemused some on here considered dropping Carey, he has his faults but seriously!!

    If anyone stated Carey should be dropped they are clueless.
    TBF I didn't think it was more than a couple of posters after a wasteful day with a myriad of shots because even his critics realized he's more of a 10 than an 8 as CAFC need him attacking the area and attempting shots rather than being a box to box midfielder.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,937
    https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/65745/

    This might be the saltiest take on a game I have ever seen 😂
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,632
    The 8th minute of this video covers the Charlton celebration and the head butt incident.

    https://youtu.be/nNfaRe5WZdY
    Wow. The Charlton TV stream ( or at least the cameraman at St Mary’s) didnt give a clear view at all. Here it’s very clear and we also see that the ref had a very clear view too. I think if it had been just the first “head-butt” the ref would have been right to conclude handbags and just dish out a  yellow to both, but the second one? When you hear both the vloggers and the fans around them all expecting a red, you know the ref has bottled that; which is a pity because as others have said, he was was generally decent. Its good to keep cards to a minimum but when that happens right in front of you….
    It was 2 yellows in my opinion. Coady drops like a stone when he gets a forehead touching his, it wasn't a headbutt, just very aggressive. He then went on to wrestle Leaburn(?) away. Although TBH, it wouldn't have surprised me to have seen a straight red for the head contact, and of course, I was shouting for one.

    Leaburn also rolled around the floor clutching his knee earlier, but not injured. Our players learnt a valuable lesson from the way Portsmouth cheated the crap ref. 

    Why didn't the TV highlights show this, and why has nobody shown the Dykes disallowed goal?
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,399
    Sword65pf said:
    Still slightly bemused some on here considered dropping Carey, he has his faults but seriously!!

    If anyone stated Carey should be dropped they are clueless.
    TBF I didn't think it was more than a couple of posters after a wasteful day with a myriad of shots because even his critics realized he's more of a 10 than an 8 as CAFC need him attacking the area and attempting shots rather than being a box to box midfielder.
    No it wasn’t loads of people.