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Championship Games 25/26
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Stoke have won 4 drawn 5 lost 10 in 19, in absolute free fall, potential they can get dragged into the relegation battle. Oxford even with a win would be 9 points off us, can’t see them getting 3 extra wins in a remaining 12 games to overtake us.EugenesAxe said:
What advantage is there of being within 3 points of Stoke? Nevermind Oxford getting 3 closer.Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke1 -
We don't need to look up at people like Stoke now, we aren't getting to the playoffs, we just need 2 teams below us to remain below us, and the more games they lose the easier that is for us.
Stoke to absolutely batter Oxford please16 -
Stoke with the way they’re currently going have the potential to finish below us that’s my point? Oxford even if they win tonight are too far off to catch us in my opinion, so I’d want another relegation contender
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Absolute madness. Please can we stop presuming Oxford are down. They have 7 pretty encouraging home fixtures left to play, are 5 points from safety, with a game in hand, and have recently kept clean sheets at Coventry and Boro.Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke
The Kassam is a horrible 3 -sided stadium and clubs don't like playing them. Oxford are fighting really hard and should not be written off.9 -
We don't need Stoke to get pulled into the relegation battle, we need two teams to finish below us. We still have to play Oxford away and we're quite capable of messing that up, I just want all the teams below us to lose every single game they have left including somehow the ones they play against each other. Don't worry about getting others in the mix at this stageCrispywood said:
Stoke have won 4 drawn 5 lost 10 in 19, in absolute free fall, potential they can get dragged into the relegation battle. Oxford even with a win would be 9 points off us, can’t see them getting 3 extra wins in a remaining 12 games to overtake us.EugenesAxe said:
What advantage is there of being within 3 points of Stoke? Nevermind Oxford getting 3 closer.Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke4 -
Be nice to drag more teams into the mix, because in about 8-9 games time, there are going to be sides with nothing to play for... If one of those is Stoke, and play Portsmouth for example... Id prefer them going into the game knowing they still need something from it, than being on yheor holidays and being an easier proposition as a result.
The more teams involved, the slightly less pressure there is as well, if we suddenly find ourselves in 20th with a few points above the drop, thats not going to help players or fans3 -
More teams in the mix is good but not at the expense of the ones below getting closer, drag them in by beating them not hoping our rivals beat them, there's a difference.7
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I get what @Crispywood is saying but I would say with Stoke beating Oxford tonight it would mean us ultimately losing at Oxford wouldn’t be as disastrous. Because that’s exactly what will happen when we go there.2
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Just comes down to if you look at that Oxford squad and think they can overturn a 12 point gap on us or if u think despite Stokes run they can easily pull away from that position.Either way one or both of those teams is guaranteed to drop points so I’m going to be content regardless1
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Get where your coming from Crispy but I personally couldn't give a hoot about teams above us pulling away from us. We need the teams below us to pick up as little points as possible. Don't think oxford getting 3 points tonight will be beneficial to us.7
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Don't need Oxford to start a winning run before they play us.O-Randy-Hunt said:Get where your coning from Crispy but I personally couldn't give a hoot about teams above us pulling away from us. We need the teams below us to pick up as little points as possible. Don't think oxford getting 3 points tonight will be beneficial to us.
Ideally a Stoke win tonight and Oxford draw with West Brom on Saturday.7 -
Noooooo......Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke
Don't be concerned about the teams above us just the teams below us. Why would you want a team who could relegate us to win ?? Madness.
Stoke aren't going to go down so why would you want them to not pick up any more points.
Some people on here are just weird.3 -
Stoke aren't safe though. On 44 points, so just 3 points above us, and no wins in 7. It's unlikely they'll go down, but on their current form they're on the slide, and I'd like to keep them in the mix.golfaddick said:
Noooooo......Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke
Don't be concerned about the teams above us just the teams below us. Why would you want a team who could relegate us to win ?? Madness.
Stoke aren't going to go down so why would you want them to not pick up any more points.
Some people on here are just weird.
I don't especially want Oxford to win either, so a draw would be the best result for us. Followed by Oxford beating West Brom on Saturday.
Scrub that, another draw!4 -
Millwall still have to play 5 teams currently below us
Blackburn H
Norwich H
West Brom A
Leicester A
Oxford H
Wonder if they will do us any favours?3 -
CaptainRobbo said:Millwall still have to play 5 teams currently below us
Blackburn H
Norwich H
West Brom A
Leicester A
Oxford H
Wonder if they will do us any favours?
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I know what you mean, but take their foot off the gas too much and no playoffs for them.thenewbie said:CaptainRobbo said:Millwall still have to play 5 teams currently below us
Blackburn H
Norwich H
West Brom A
Leicester A
Oxford H
Wonder if they will do us any favours?
Down to 5th now and Birmingham tonight.0 -
I don't mind Oxford beating West Brom on Saturday but I don't want them winning tonight. If they do win both games they are very much back in it to stay up.
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Kieran Maguire was on The Overlap YouTube episode this week. He said there's a chance Leicester are deducted further points before the end of this season.4
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They'll be Barcelona 2011 against all the good teams in the division, and Michael Appleton's 2026 Shrewsbury against all our relegation rivals.CaptainRobbo said:Millwall still have to play 5 teams currently below us
Blackburn H
Norwich H
West Brom A
Leicester A
Oxford H
Wonder if they will do us any favours?3 -
For Oxford to stay up they need to hit playoff form and need the same amount of wins 6 in the next 13 as they have managed in their previous 33 if we take 50 as the magic survival number, add an additional win if we think it’s higher.golfaddick said:
Noooooo......Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke
Don't be concerned about the teams above us just the teams below us. Why would you want a team who could relegate us to win ?? Madness.
Stoke aren't going to go down so why would you want them to not pick up any more points.
Some people on here are just weird.We are 3 points off Stoke who have 4 wins in 19 games and haven’t won in previous 7 games.It’s not called being weird it’s called maths. I personally think the odds of Stoke carrying on their bad run allowing us to overtake them is more likely than Oxford becoming the 6th best side in the championship over the next 13 games for them to overtake usIf you think Stoke turn it around that’s fair enough in which case yes u want the certainty Oxford are relegated but it’s a completely logical viewpoint to have.2 -
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They’ll need to start their march to 7th place soon (if they haven’t already started) so expect them to lose 2 of those and draw another one.CaptainRobbo said:Millwall still have to play 5 teams currently below us
Blackburn H
Norwich H
West Brom A
Leicester A
Oxford H
Wonder if they will do us any favours?
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If only we could string two wins together as soon as possible.3
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They're probably lose to them all just to spite us.CaptainRobbo said:Millwall still have to play 5 teams currently below us
Blackburn H
Norwich H
West Brom A
Leicester A
Oxford H
Wonder if they will do us any favours?1 -
We don't need to go above Stoke. In fact, we don't need any more points if every team below us either carry on losing or don't get enough points to leapfrog us.Crispywood said:
For Oxford to stay up they need to hit playoff form and need the same amount of wins 6 in the next 13 as they have managed in their previous 33 if we take 50 as the magic survival number, add an additional win if we think it’s higher.golfaddick said:
Noooooo......Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke
Don't be concerned about the teams above us just the teams below us. Why would you want a team who could relegate us to win ?? Madness.
Stoke aren't going to go down so why would you want them to not pick up any more points.
Some people on here are just weird.We are 3 points off Stoke who have 4 wins in 19 games and haven’t won in previous 7 games.It’s not called being weird it’s called maths. I personally think the odds of Stoke carrying on their bad run allowing us to overtake them is more likely than Oxford becoming the 6th best side in the championship over the next 13 games for them to overtake usIf you think Stoke turn it around that’s fair enough in which case yes u want the certainty Oxford are relegated but it’s a completely logical viewpoint to have.
That is maths.
It's totally illogical to want a team below you to win so that you can catch the team ahead of you. So say we catch Stoke and then both us & Stoke don't win another game. Then both of us get relegated along with Sheff Wed.
Cool.2 -
golfaddick said:
We don't need to go above Stoke. In fact, we don't need any more points if every team below us either carry on losing or don't get enough points to leapfrog us.Crispywood said:
For Oxford to stay up they need to hit playoff form and need the same amount of wins 6 in the next 13 as they have managed in their previous 33 if we take 50 as the magic survival number, add an additional win if we think it’s higher.golfaddick said:
Noooooo......Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke
Don't be concerned about the teams above us just the teams below us. Why would you want a team who could relegate us to win ?? Madness.
Stoke aren't going to go down so why would you want them to not pick up any more points.
Some people on here are just weird.We are 3 points off Stoke who have 4 wins in 19 games and haven’t won in previous 7 games.It’s not called being weird it’s called maths. I personally think the odds of Stoke carrying on their bad run allowing us to overtake them is more likely than Oxford becoming the 6th best side in the championship over the next 13 games for them to overtake usIf you think Stoke turn it around that’s fair enough in which case yes u want the certainty Oxford are relegated but it’s a completely logical viewpoint to have.
That is maths.
It's totally illogical to want a team below you to win so that you can catch the team ahead of you. So say we catch Stoke and then both us & Stoke don't win another game. Then both of us get relegated along with Sheff Wed.
Cool.
Potential client for you there @golfaddick. Easy work!1 -
We definitely don't want an Oxford win tonight. If they win that and then beat West brom at home on Saturday then all of a sudden they could be just 6 points behind us. Then when we go to Middlesbrough they face Blackburn at home which is another possible chance for them to gain on us, before we go there.Crispywood said:
For Oxford to stay up they need to hit playoff form and need the same amount of wins 6 in the next 13 as they have managed in their previous 33 if we take 50 as the magic survival number, add an additional win if we think it’s higher.golfaddick said:
Noooooo......Crispywood said:Actually hoping for an Oxford win tonight. Making up 9 points would still be a massive ask and keeps us within 3 of Stoke
Don't be concerned about the teams above us just the teams below us. Why would you want a team who could relegate us to win ?? Madness.
Stoke aren't going to go down so why would you want them to not pick up any more points.
Some people on here are just weird.We are 3 points off Stoke who have 4 wins in 19 games and haven’t won in previous 7 games.It’s not called being weird it’s called maths. I personally think the odds of Stoke carrying on their bad run allowing us to overtake them is more likely than Oxford becoming the 6th best side in the championship over the next 13 games for them to overtake usIf you think Stoke turn it around that’s fair enough in which case yes u want the certainty Oxford are relegated but it’s a completely logical viewpoint to have.
Only takes 1 unexpected win tonight and then their tails are up. Let them lose and stay down there adrift from the others. Ideally we want every club below us to keep losing, we don't really need to worry about Stoke.6 -
If we don't end up finishing above Stoke it's not the end of the world. If we end up behind Oxford we are 100% down.
Stoke to win and win well because the goal difference is still a little too close for my liking.6 -
Stoke have 15 more points than Oxford.
They aren't going down regardless.
If they beat Oxford they'll be a) 18 points ahead of them and b) arresting the momentum that Oxford are trying to build.
Easy decision9 -
A real jackass jerk off must've made this up!!!ForeverAddickted said:
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If Oxford won at Stoke tonight and then beat us in a couple of weeks time that's just six points behind and we don't know what happens in the games in between when we play Wrexham, Birmingham and Boro. I want them to lose. The further behind us they are the better.Crispywood said:Just comes down to if you look at that Oxford squad and think they can overturn a 12 point gap on us or if u think despite Stokes run they can easily pull away from that position.Either way one or both of those teams is guaranteed to drop points so I’m going to be content regardless4
