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I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................

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  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 4,187
    sweet lord some of this is ridiculous. sunderland Villa is a ludicrous comparison but I won't get drawn into that madness as it's a whole other layer of pointless debate and we're already on the minutiae of preston's finance 

    I think the above is largely wrong, it's absolutely correct to reference our transfer outgoings as part of our budget... especially as Preston have never spent of note over their many years in the champ and always had a lower budget... we have spent substantially, i suspect our wage bill will probably leapfrog there's next season if not the year after, we supposedly paid Kaminski more than they pay Small

    I'm also not saying they don't have a better team than us, they evidently do, just the whole assessment is nuanced beyond the simple principle of the paper budget

    the responses above are typical of the thou shalt not question me defence mode of the Jones disciples.. query his greatness and you shall be shot at dawn

    bigger picture

    - there are several other teams who have financial and/or other circumstances that compare or worse than ours
    - we would/should not have been expected to get relegated this season
    - the board invested with the absolute expectation that we wouldn't, if we were level with Oxford I suspect he would have been sacked
    - I think we are where we should realistically be so Jones isn't overperforming he's doing okay
    - judging in the round not just solely on supposed budgets I think we could have done better and think he's presided over some pretty inexcusable performances a number of which are directly attributable to his management/tactics
    - i also wish him well and think he'll keep us up

    he will continue to be scrutinised

    UTA and fuck hollywood FC


  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,257
    paulsturgess said:
    sweet lord some of this is ridiculous. sunderland Villa is a ludicrous comparison but I won't get drawn into that madness as it's a whole other layer of pointless debate and we're already on the minutiae of preston's finance 

    I think the above is largely wrong, it's absolutely correct to reference our transfer outgoings as part of our budget... especially as Preston have never spent of note over their many years in the champ and always had a lower budget... we have spent substantially, i suspect our wage bill will probably leapfrog there's next season if not the year after, we supposedly paid Kaminski more than they pay Small

    I'm also not saying they don't have a better team than us, they evidently do, just the whole assessment is nuanced beyond the simple principle of the paper budget

    the responses above are typical of the thou shalt not question me defence mode of the Jones disciples.. query his greatness and you shall be shot at dawn

    bigger picture

    - there are several other teams who have financial and/or other circumstances that compare or worse than ours
    - we would/should not have been expected to get relegated this season
    - the board invested with the absolute expectation that we wouldn't, if we were level with Oxford I suspect he would have been sacked
    - I think we are where we should realistically be so Jones isn't overperforming he's doing okay
    - judging in the round not just solely on supposed budgets I think we could have done better and think he's presided over some pretty inexcusable performances a number of which are directly attributable to his management/tactics
    - i also wish him well and think he'll keep us up

    he will continue to be scrutinised

    UTA and fuck hollywood FC


    Can talk about other clubs having off field problems but does that change the fact we have the 3rd smallest budget in the league no, does that change the fact we got a promoted with a lineup that would be comprehensively battered by most other sides in this division no or change that we don’t have a quality side now no. 

    We should/wouldn’t expect to be relegated what is that based on not having off field issues? We had them under Duchatelet but if you look at that team and manager (except Josh Parker) when we got promoted in the 18/19 season that team was quality for the standard 
  • elbiglad
    elbiglad Posts: 141
    paulsturgess said:
    sweet lord some of this is ridiculous. sunderland Villa is a ludicrous comparison but I won't get drawn into that madness as it's a whole other layer of pointless debate and we're already on the minutiae of preston's finance 

    I think the above is largely wrong, it's absolutely correct to reference our transfer outgoings as part of our budget... especially as Preston have never spent of note over their many years in the champ and always had a lower budget... we have spent substantially, i suspect our wage bill will probably leapfrog there's next season if not the year after, we supposedly paid Kaminski more than they pay Small

    I'm also not saying they don't have a better team than us, they evidently do, just the whole assessment is nuanced beyond the simple principle of the paper budget

    the responses above are typical of the thou shalt not question me defence mode of the Jones disciples.. query his greatness and you shall be shot at dawn

    bigger picture

    - there are several other teams who have financial and/or other circumstances that compare or worse than ours
    - we would/should not have been expected to get relegated this season
    - the board invested with the absolute expectation that we wouldn't, if we were level with Oxford I suspect he would have been sacked
    - I think we are where we should realistically be so Jones isn't overperforming he's doing okay
    - judging in the round not just solely on supposed budgets I think we could have done better and think he's presided over some pretty inexcusable performances a number of which are directly attributable to his management/tactics
    - i also wish him well and think he'll keep us up

    he will continue to be scrutinised

    UTA and fuck hollywood FC


    Lots of holes to pick in this, but I just want to know why you think we would/should not have been expected to be relegated? 

    We were the worst of three teams to get promoted and did not strengthen as much as those two. Most bookies had us around third favourite to go down. I don’t know on what basis you can say we are where we should be. 

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