New dugouts and other improvements

Kap10 · February 27

Carter said:

We should swap the home and away dugouts around. I think its insane we give the away manager and his coaching staff the ear of the linesman on that side

I recollect that had been a plan, possibly undef Pardew

SoundAsa£ · February 27

Charlton and on said:

shirty5 said:

https://www.charltonafc.com/news/valley-set-further-summer-upgrades

So the ones that are getting displaced.

Will they be receiving a discount on next seasons ticket for the inconvenience caused?

It's not that much of an inconvenience to move a few rows up in pretty empty blocks. They'll get a better view, if nothing else.

On the contrary…..they choose to sit behind the dugout because they like to be there…..don’t you realise that.🤔

Weegie Addick · February 27

As someone on the Advisory Board, I’m not quite sure why the AB is being dug out on this @Henry Irving? It is purely a club decision. There has been no consultation. I would agree in principle that there should be on matters like this in future.

PeaksAndValleys · February 27

Weegie Addick said:

As someone on the Advisory Board, I’m not quite sure why the AB is being dug out on this @Henry Irving? It is purely a club decision. There has been no consultation. I would agree in principle that there should be on matters like this in future.

Fixed it for you - can't be missing these kinds of opportunities

Weegie Addick · February 28

PeaksAndValleys said:

Weegie Addick said:

As someone on the Advisory Board, I’m not quite sure why the AB is being dug out on this @Henry Irving? It is purely a club decision. There has been no consultation. I would agree in principle that there should be on matters like this in future.

Fixed it for you - can't be missing these kinds of opportunities

Thanks. Edited.

Crispywood · February 28

Amazing how all these upgrades we’ve made in the last 2 1/2 years somehow only costs the price of a Charlie Kelman makes it look like a bargain

iaitch · February 28

fenlandaddick said:

That pigeon is thinking about which pane of glass to shit on first.

letthegoodtimesroll · February 28

I wonder by how much these displacements will reduce the official capacity of the ground.

will it still be a number starting with ‘27’ or are we now dipping to ‘26’

the dugouts have to be done and, imo, every enhancement to corporate hospitality capacity is a win/win because of the disproportionately higher revenues per ‘fan’ that it brings in these days.

Henry Irving · February 28

fenaddick said:

Henry Irving said:

sam3110 said:

shirty5 said:

Charlton and on said:

shirty5 said:

https://www.charltonafc.com/news/valley-set-further-summer-upgrades

So the ones that are getting displaced.

Will they be receiving a discount on next seasons ticket for the inconvenience caused?

It's not that much of an inconvenience to move a few rows up in pretty empty blocks. They'll get a better view, if nothing else.

These improvements also include the new hospitality in the West Stand, so those individuals would be more affected as well

It’s not just the individuals behind the new dugout areas who are being displaced

At the end of the day it's improving our home, "Displaced" is a very strong word for someone having to move a few feet, so no-one should be too up in arms about it. It's not like we're moving away fans into the West Stand or replacing the entire stand with a mixture of hot tubs, sofas and iron wrought park benches is it.

Hopefully the unannounced new changes will be increased spending on the concourses and a modernisation of the turnstiles

I think it is up to those being displaced to say how much they should be "up in arms" about this, rather than someone from the Advisory board deciding that for them.

The club appear to have been proactive and giving plenty of notice so credit to them but we know that many people become very attached to their seats and the people they sit with.

I'd imagine that the changes for hospitality will be more keenly felt and opposed. The rationale for the dug out changes is clear but moving long term fans to better house the "prawn sandwich brigade" (which may or not be the case but may well stll be the perception) may not be taken lying down.

Change is needed and more income is required. The ongoing upgrades mentioned are long overdue so well done the current regime for picking up the slack left for too long by previous owners. But change is not always welcomed and needs to be handled carefully.

Think you might be getting your “Sam” posters confused here unless someone else from the Advisory Board has said this somewhere?

I do agree with the rest of your post though. Needs to be a balance and good comms around hospitality changes otherwise it just appears as a cash gra

Mia culpa, now editted

Sword65pf · February 28

I welcome anything that improves us as a club, if that means people moving seats, then unfortunately that’s the way it is, I’m not sure they will have to move far.

fenaddick · February 28

letthegoodtimesroll said:

I wonder by how much these displacements will reduce the official capacity of the ground.

will it still be a number starting with ‘27’ or are we now dipping to ‘26’

the dugouts have to be done and, imo, every enhancement to corporate hospitality capacity is a win/win because of the disproportionately higher revenues per ‘fan’ that it brings in these days.

Might be wrong but think we’re already in the 26 after the safe standing changes and the few rows blocked off in the away end

shine166 · February 28

SoundAsa£ said:

Charlton and on said:

shirty5 said:

https://www.charltonafc.com/news/valley-set-further-summer-upgrades

So the ones that are getting displaced.

Will they be receiving a discount on next seasons ticket for the inconvenience caused?

It's not that much of an inconvenience to move a few rows up in pretty empty blocks. They'll get a better view, if nothing else.

On the contrary…..they choose to sit behind the dugout because they like to be there…..don’t you realise that.🤔

Unless the new dugouts are going on the roof, they probably still can

JohnnyH2 · February 28

No mention of replacing the sound system that is totally inadequate

Riscardo · February 28

Carter said:

We should swap the home and away dugouts around. I think its insane we give the away manager and his coaching staff the ear of the linesman on that side

Have been saying this for 27 years ...

valleynick66 · February 28

JohnnyH2 said:

No mention of replacing the sound system that is totally inadequate

They did. You just didn’t hear it 😉😆

Markg2004 · February 28

fenlandaddick said:

Is that boiler connected? Or another half finished upgrade like the undersoil heating and the LED boards on the security box?! ;-)

shirty5 · February 28

valleynick66 said:

JohnnyH2 said:

No mention of replacing the sound system that is totally inadequate

They did. You just didn’t hear it 😉😆

I’m sure the local council will take this more seriously when it comes to handing out the annual safety certificate for the ground

God forbid there was an emergency and everyone was told to evacuate would the majority of the stadium hear that announcement?

fenlandaddick · February 28

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Markg2004 said:

fenlandaddick said:

Is that boiler connected? Or another half finished upgrade like the undersoil heating and the LED boards on the security box?! ;-)

That's not just any boiler, that's a Championship standard UFH boiler. 😜.

Warms the players shoes and then goes under the pitch. Something the Premiership could only dream of.

valleynick66 · February 28

shirty5 said:

valleynick66 said:

JohnnyH2 said:

No mention of replacing the sound system that is totally inadequate

They did. You just didn’t hear it 😉😆

I’m sure the local council will take this more seriously when it comes to handing out the annual safety certificate for the ground

God forbid there was an emergency and everyone was told to evacuate would the majority of the stadium hear that announcement?

Ahh but now they can spell out the message on the LED 😉😆

shirty5 · February 28

valleynick66 said:

shirty5 said:

valleynick66 said:

JohnnyH2 said:

No mention of replacing the sound system that is totally inadequate

They did. You just didn’t hear it 😉😆

I’m sure the local council will take this more seriously when it comes to handing out the annual safety certificate for the ground

God forbid there was an emergency and everyone was told to evacuate would the majority of the stadium hear that announcement?

Ahh but now they can spell out the message on the LED 😉😆

You can take the piss as much as you want. At the end of the day it’s council who will give the go ahead or not

valleynick66 · February 28

shirty5 said:

valleynick66 said:

shirty5 said:

valleynick66 said:

JohnnyH2 said:

No mention of replacing the sound system that is totally inadequate

They did. You just didn’t hear it 😉😆

I’m sure the local council will take this more seriously when it comes to handing out the annual safety certificate for the ground

God forbid there was an emergency and everyone was told to evacuate would the majority of the stadium hear that announcement?

Ahh but now they can spell out the message on the LED 😉😆

You can take the piss as much as you want. At the end of the day it’s council who will give the go ahead or not

Emojis are wasted on you I take it.

shirty5 · February 28

valleynick66 said:

shirty5 said:

valleynick66 said:

shirty5 said:

valleynick66 said:

JohnnyH2 said:

No mention of replacing the sound system that is totally inadequate

They did. You just didn’t hear it 😉😆

I’m sure the local council will take this more seriously when it comes to handing out the annual safety certificate for the ground

God forbid there was an emergency and everyone was told to evacuate would the majority of the stadium hear that announcement?

Ahh but now they can spell out the message on the LED 😉😆

You can take the piss as much as you want. At the end of the day it’s council who will give the go ahead or not

Emojis are wasted on you I take it.

Yes clearly but when you have Portsmouth and Chelsea fans this season who did not hear which was supposedly put out to them over this so called sound system that they have in the ground and then they have issues cause of it, then this is a serious matter

Pedro45 · February 28

I currently have a season ticket a few rows behind the away dug out. I like sitting there, as you get a close insight into how others teams set up, communicate, and manage.

I have not been contacted by the club re the changes. I do hope i do not have my viewing experience altered substantially, otherwise i will have to find a new seat...

sam3110 · February 28

Pedro45 said:

I currently have a season ticket a few rows behind the away dug out. I like sitting there, as you get a close insight into how others teams set up, communicate, and manage.

I have not been contacted by the club re the changes. I do hope i do not have my viewing experience altered substantially, otherwise i will have to find a new seat...

From what I gather if anything you'll have a better view of the pitch as the away Dugout will be closer to the halfway line next season

valleynick66 · February 28

sam3110 said:

Pedro45 said:

I currently have a season ticket a few rows behind the away dug out. I like sitting there, as you get a close insight into how others teams set up, communicate, and manage.

I have not been contacted by the club re the changes. I do hope i do not have my viewing experience altered substantially, otherwise i will have to find a new seat...

From what I gather if anything you'll have a better view of the pitch as the away Dugout will be closer to the halfway line next season

Either that or actually in the dugout 😆

fenaddick · February 28

sam3110 said:

Pedro45 said:

I currently have a season ticket a few rows behind the away dug out. I like sitting there, as you get a close insight into how others teams set up, communicate, and manage.

I have not been contacted by the club re the changes. I do hope i do not have my viewing experience altered substantially, otherwise i will have to find a new seat...

From what I gather if anything you'll have a better view of the pitch as the away Dugout will be closer to the halfway line next season

But the OP is saying he likes his seat because it's near the dug out, not because of the view. If OP's seat is no longer near the dug out then they won't be getting what they like

sam3110 · February 28

Ok, but he's also saying he hasn't been contacted about the change, which suggests he won't have to move seat.

If he moves to be closer to the dugouts again when we make the change, that's a choice, but it's not something the club will be thinking about, they'll be contacting people that will actually have to relocate

buckshee · March 1

It’s good they’re spending money on these things but again there’re leaving some of the basics, are we finally going to get the PA upgraded so we can actually hear it? Are they going to renew all the seat numbering finally?

Pedro45 · March 1

fenaddick said:

sam3110 said:

Pedro45 said:

I currently have a season ticket a few rows behind the away dug out. I like sitting there, as you get a close insight into how others teams set up, communicate, and manage.

I have not been contacted by the club re the changes. I do hope i do not have my viewing experience altered substantially, otherwise i will have to find a new seat...

From what I gather if anything you'll have a better view of the pitch as the away Dugout will be closer to the halfway line next season

But the OP is saying he likes his seat because it's near the dug out, not because of the view. If OP's seat is no longer near the dug out then they won't be getting what they like

I doubt i will move with the changes, as i like my aisle seat (between blocks e & f). It does sound like ill be looking over the top of the away dugout in second halves now though. It would seem that the s/t holders who will need to move are those near the front of e block...

cafcfan · March 2

Pedro45 said:

fenaddick said:

sam3110 said:

Pedro45 said:

I currently have a season ticket a few rows behind the away dug out. I like sitting there, as you get a close insight into how others teams set up, communicate, and manage.

I have not been contacted by the club re the changes. I do hope i do not have my viewing experience altered substantially, otherwise i will have to find a new seat...

From what I gather if anything you'll have a better view of the pitch as the away Dugout will be closer to the halfway line next season

But the OP is saying he likes his seat because it's near the dug out, not because of the view. If OP's seat is no longer near the dug out then they won't be getting what they like

I doubt i will move with the changes, as i like my aisle seat (between blocks e & f). It does sound like ill be looking over the top of the away dugout in second halves now though. It would seem that the s/t holders who will need to move are those near the front of e block...

Not just them. There are a number of people in block D (and E?) who still have their seats but no longer use hospitality. It makes it tricky to sell (more) hospitality packages if the prime seat is not available to go with it.
Perhaps there is someone here that can confirm but I understand that people who used to be in the old Millennium Lounge before it was re-branded Club 1905 and now no longer buy hospitality are likely to be asked to move. My guess is that this would impact only the rear half of the block(s).

It's not just a "sweating the assets" thing. The Club feels there is too much chaos at half-time with people trying to go up to get to the lounge entrances for their half-time hot chocolate (other beverages are available) fighting against the tide of people trying to go down to get to the concourse outlets.

This is entirely speculative but I wonder if they are going to installed padded seats in these blocks and that would reduce the number of seats available?

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