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Five second rule for throw ins and goal kicks?

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  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,490
    Tbh i think they should go full basketball and only allow you 20 seconds to take the ball into the oppositions half or even the final third. 
     
    Get rid of passy passsy guardiola football. 
  • There's already a Law for this. Law 12. Delaying the restart of the game. It's a Caution.

    Just use the laws that are there and stop pissing about.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,951
    edited March 1
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2026/02/28/players-booked-covering-mouth-world-cup/

    "The [IFAB] meeting in Wales also agreed that any player whose injury forces a stoppage in play would stay off the field for a period of at least one minute.

    The Women’s Super League will also trial a measure aimed at reducing time-wasting by goalkeepers. An outfield player will be removed for a minute, if the goalkeeper receives treatment on the pitch."

    It seems harsh that a player that requires treatment as a result of a foul action has to leave the field for an extended period; 30 seconds was bad enough but a minute?

    As for the goalkeeper "injury", who decides which outfield player has to leave the pitch? Is it the keeper's side, the oppo or the ref? At least something's being done to stop the Kaminski time-out farce most weeks.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,359
    5 seconds just seems impractical. Goalkicks usually take at least 20 secs even if no time wasting and quite often 35 secs. 
    As for the minute rule for injuries, I really don't like. Only applies if a trainer comes on. Therefore we will see even more of players going down injured to waste time but saying they don't then want treatment after ref goes over, has a discussion. I find this more annoying than genuine injuries. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,197
    redman said:
    5 seconds just seems impractical. Goalkicks usually take at least 20 secs even if no time wasting and quite often 35 secs. 
    As for the minute rule for injuries, I really don't like. Only applies if a trainer comes on. Therefore we will see even more of players going down injured to waste time but saying they don't then want treatment after ref goes over, has a discussion. I find this more annoying than genuine injuries. 
    I think it will be 5 seconds starting from when the GK or throw in taker has the ball. Rather than 5 seconds from it going out of play 

    Agree that we don’t need the upgrade to a minute though, and in my opinion any injury that stops the game should be a 30 seconds off, rather than only the ones the physio comes on for 
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,359
    NabySarr said:
    redman said:
    5 seconds just seems impractical. Goalkicks usually take at least 20 secs even if no time wasting and quite often 35 secs. 
    As for the minute rule for injuries, I really don't like. Only applies if a trainer comes on. Therefore we will see even more of players going down injured to waste time but saying they don't then want treatment after ref goes over, has a discussion. I find this more annoying than genuine injuries. 
    I think it will be 5 seconds starting from when the GK or throw in taker has the ball. Rather than 5 seconds from it going out of play 

    Agree that we don’t need the upgrade to a minute though, and in my opinion any injury that stops the game should be a 30 seconds off, rather than only the ones the physio comes on for 
    But that's equally as ridiculous. Much of the time is taking by the gk/player strolling to get the ball, or not taking the ball closest to them 
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,359
    German referee Patrick Ittrich has proposed a number of potential rule changes in football:

    1️⃣ For a tactical foul in midfield, award a free-kick 17 metres from goal. How many of those fouls would we see after that?

    2️⃣ If a player rolls around three times and calls for a doctor, bring one on — then make him wait on the touchline for three minutes. How fast do you think he’d get back up?

    3️⃣ If a player verbally abuses the referee, send him off for 10 minutes to cool down. Go for a quick cycle to stay warm before returning. There’s something to learn from handball there.

    4️⃣ Why is a referee being surrounded by 10 players after a decision? For me, bang, bang, bang — three red cards. Play seven vs ten. That would sort it out.

    Bit extreme but some sense to some of it 
  • JoshrewCAFC
    JoshrewCAFC Posts: 943
    I wish they'd just enforce the existing rules on time wasting.

    You don't see much of it in the Championship, so it has been less on my mind this season. But time wasting is the biggest reason League 1 football is so unattractive to watch in my opinion. How many times did we see teams in League 1 come to The Valley and timewaste from the first whistle? 
  • Chrispy51
    Chrispy51 Posts: 476
    I wish they'd just enforce the existing rules on time wasting.

    You don't see much of it in the Championship, so it has been less on my mind this season. But time wasting is the biggest reason League 1 football is so unattractive to watch in my opinion. How many times did we see teams in League 1 come to The Valley and timewaste from the first whistle? 
    I don't think it's less prevalent in the Championship, it's just that we are not as much of a threat to the opponents - they want the ball in play to try and break us down to win the game.  In League 1 we were the favourite to win and therefore opponents wanted the ball 'dead' for as long as possible to hopefully get a point.



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  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,115
    Not like it the idea of 1 minute off for injuries,all it takes is cynical team to take a couple of players out n straight away they have the advantage whilst we wait for the rotation of players to get back on pitch…if the injured player has to go off then wouldn’t it be fairer for the player who committed challenge goes off too for the sane amount of time…simples
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,483
    Yeah a mini sin bin makes more sense, both players on the touchline for the duration of the time if the injury/treatment was because of a foul. 

    If a player goes down of his own accord and gets treatment, but then aren't subbed off due to injury, they should then wait a minute on the touchline, that's fine. 

    If it's a keeper down for treatment, the captain of the team elects a fellow player to be off the field for a minute in his place. Also, make the players congregate in the centre circle whilst treatment is taking place, so they can't use it as a timeout to get instructions to the side


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,055
    I remember hearing two former refs talk about the 6-second rule (goalkeepers having to get rid of the ball 6 seconds after catching it). They both said they didn't start counting until they got themselves into a good position, back in the middle of the park. I don't see how a 5-second goal kick or throw-in rule would be any different. 

    For me, the most annoying slow down of the game is at corner kicks, when the ref constantly stops the corner from being taken so he can tell defenders and attackers to stop pushing/pulling each other. It's constant and both sides get away with murder. 
  • benjest1989
    benjest1989 Posts: 397
    It's 5 seconds from when the referee starts a countdown - which will only be started if the ref believes there is deliberate time wasting - I don't see this changing anything  
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,951
    It's 5 seconds from when the referee starts a countdown - which will only be started if the ref believes there is deliberate time wasting - I don't see this changing anything  
    In that case ...

    Opposition players: the ref starts his countdown about 20 mins after the break in play, no impact on oppo players.

    Charlton players: the ref starts his countdown before the ball has even gone out of play and we get yellows for timewasting.

    So you're right: this won't change anything ...
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,943
    It's 5 seconds from when the referee starts a countdown - which will only be started if the ref believes there is deliberate time wasting - I don't see this changing anything  

    Thats ruined the big screen countdown idea. We wouldn't have a clue when to start it. Bloody rule makers.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,951
    It's 5 seconds from when the referee starts a countdown - which will only be started if the ref believes there is deliberate time wasting - I don't see this changing anything  

    Thats ruined the big screen countdown idea. We wouldn't have a clue when to start it. Bloody rule makers.
    Start it when WE want it to and put pressure on the ref.

    😉