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TC did about 30 mins last night - when they pressed us in the last 10 mins, he was basically a spectator much of that time.
He was either unfit or unbothered.
No excuse really, in what was a heroic performance by the other players.
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My view of his cameo performance as well but kept thinking if he gets a chance he will score the goal that puts the game to bed and we can all eat ours words, then lo and behold he got a chance…BigDiddy said:TC did about 30 mins last night - when they pressed us in the last 10 mins, he was basically a spectator much of that time.
He was either unfit or unbothered.
No excuse really, in what was a heroic performance by the other players.
he did get a crucial defensive tackle in though which was more important given our 1-0 lead and gameplan
Perhaps we were promoted one season too early for him and it will all come good next season. He has the skill but not the will atm.0 -
Im a big fan of TC but last night he looked a bit lost, im not a fan of him playing that central striker role but he did still get in a couple of decent interceptions one particular that stifled a bit of danger
Not usually one to call out fellow fans, everyone’s entitled to their view, but some of the comments on this thread are just bonkers, if you don’t know what he brings to the team by now you never will, last night wasn’t his best cameo but he has been one of our hardest working players all season and easily our most dangerous threat in a game when we need to be on the front foot, leave the boy alone and get behind him and stop with the moronic comments..
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I think he’s got the skill and the will, but not the brain yet. If that comes then he will be some playerletthegoodtimesroll said:
My view of his cameo performance as well but kept thinking if he gets a chance he will score the goal that puts the game to bed and we can all eat ours words, then lo and behold he got a chance…BigDiddy said:TC did about 30 mins last night - when they pressed us in the last 10 mins, he was basically a spectator much of that time.
He was either unfit or unbothered.
No excuse really, in what was a heroic performance by the other players.
he did get a crucial defensive tackle in though which was more important given our 1-0 lead and gameplan
Perhaps we were promoted one season too early for him and it will all come good next season. He has the skill but not the will atm.3 -
I am a TC defender/fanboy, whatever term you want to use. I don’t really understand why that is a bad thing; we are very proud of our academy and to me those players do deserve extra support and patience.I understand he may not be everyone’s favourite player, but some of the comments above and in the post match thread are, honestly, pathetic. But they’re not new or surprising.He hasn’t quite been at the races lately; should’ve done better with the 1v1 chances v Brum and Boro last night, and he didn’t press from the front as well as he has. But he was very committed to defending and tracking back and helped us out more than once. It’s a tough situation to come on in. I’ll admit he did frustrate me last night at times, but so did others. He’s not immune to criticism.He is an attack-minded winger. He is still being asked to play against his instincts. I would bet good money that if the majority of other teams in this league brought on their most attack minded winger on 60 minutes in a backs to the wall game away at the best passing team in the league, they wouldn’t fare as well as TC or put that much effort in. Let’s just enjoy the win lads.7
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It’s a low block. You don’t press. They’d clearly been told to hold position and keep the line and he’s there for the counter. He also got back to left back to deny a cross into our six yard box late on.BigDiddy said:TC did about 30 mins last night - when they pressed us in the last 10 mins, he was basically a spectator much of that time.
He was either unfit or unbothered.
No excuse really, in what was a heroic performance by the other players.
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Ultimately, it seems to come down to his body language. There’s a point where shyness can read as standoffish, even a bit self‑centred, and I think that’s how some fans are interpreting it. Take Gillesphey, for example. He has his rough moments, but supporters don’t turn on him because you can see the pride and the intent in everything he does.I appreciate and commend TC, because he’s the only player we’ve asked to make such extreme positional shifts, from a forward to a left wing‑back.In an era of sports science and performance coaching, I’m surprised we haven’t paired him with someone who could help him develop a more positive sort of presence in a professional environment. Most of us have had to do that in our own jobs, so it’s not as harsh as it might sound.6
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I'm also in the TC love camp, but I definitely wouldn't say he had a good game last night either, and I'm not going to argue with measured criticism like yours or Large's. I thought he did OK when he was supporting the defence down the left, and got some good blocks in, but agree that he looked a bit lost when he ended up just in front of the D with 2 or 3 players nearby, and didn't know which one to try to mark. Despite not being a natural defender though, he played his part in the collective rearguard action that kept us in the lead, but from some of the comments on here, and stupidly low marks on the players marks thread, you'd think he'd scored an own goal, given away a penalty, and got a perfectly good goal from a team mate chalked off for being offside.AFKABartram said:I was very frustrated watching him last night. I’ll make a point of saying I’m not sure he knew where he should be positionally as so often without possession he was consistently 5-10 yards away from 2-3 Boro players and serving no purpose whatsoever as he was marking none and stopping the ball being played to none of them.However, sometimes it clearly shows he’s up for it, and other times gives off vibes he isn’t last night was very much the latter. Jones looked pretty mad at him at one point.I’m not dwelling on it as I don’t want to detract from last night. I’m neither a lover or hater with him, but I really can’t understand how some of those that have firmly entrenched themselves in the love camp can’t see the frustrations with him.7 -
TC was terrible last night let’s not get it twisted, but it is getting slightly tiring he’s the first player to get criticised after every single bad performance. We had a striker who missed a tap in but nah let’s go at the attacker who struggled with defensive responsibilities.Drops a brilliant performance at Derby, first thing said why can’t he do that more often, does nothing against Pompey and Middlesborough god he was dreadful which isn’t wrong and is deserved but the rate he receives praise/criticism is far harsher than anyone else in this squad2
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I think a lot of this comes down to the fact that Jones plays him out of position as a wingback too often. He is not a defender and never will be. If he only played as a forward, I think the consensus would be that his pace with the ball is good at this level but his finishing isn’t quite up to championship standards yet. Fans would still criticize his finishing (rightfully so) but not to the extremes that he is currently getting.2
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This isn’t the league for passengers on the pitch. The club, his teammates and the fans have too much at stake in it at this level. Last season TC saw a lot of the ball and thrived. This season it’s almost like his teammates have given up passing the ball to him if they have another option because they too will have seen him static and waiting for a pass that gets intercepted or he does get the ball and gives it up too cheaply. I like TC but he is becoming too frustrating to watch.Bostonaddick said:I think a lot of this comes down to the fact that Jones plays him out of position as a wingback too often. He is not a defender and never will be. If he only played as a forward, I think the consensus would be that his pace with the ball is good at this level but his finishing isn’t quite up to championship standards yet. Fans would still criticize his finishing (rightfully so) but not to the extremes that he is currently getting.1 -
Jog him on at the end of the season. His first touch almost undid all the hard work his colleagues had put in. Was a disgraceful effort. Weirdly I think we’d get around £2m so we should cash in.2
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Funny that no one has resurrected the Macca thread despite the fact he did exactly the same pass TC did with his first touch and also was involved in another mix up with his feet with Mannion3
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Mate you must be getting so dizzy going round in circles on this subject!!😂🤪 don’t remember a player that gets such a wide spectrum of views than TC.fenaddick said:Funny that no one has resurrected the Macca thread despite the fact he did exactly the same pass TC did with his first touch and also was involved in another mix up with his feet with Mannion0 -
Hardly a tap in .. keeper was always getting there , as Kelman had to wait for the ball and had to change his stance to adaptCrispywood said:TC was terrible last night let’s not get it twisted, but it is getting slightly tiring he’s the first player to get criticised after every single bad performance. We had a striker who missed a tap in but nah let’s go at the attacker who struggled with defensive responsibilities.Drops a brilliant performance at Derby, first thing said why can’t he do that more often, does nothing against Pompey and Middlesborough god he was dreadful which isn’t wrong and is deserved but the rate he receives praise/criticism is far harsher than anyone else in this squad0 -
That’s kind of my point though. Everything he does gets hyper analysed in a way other players don’t. I wasn’t having a go at Macca, he had one of his better games yesterday, but it’s a glaring example of TC being under such a microscopeSword65pf said:
Mate you must be getting so dizzy going round in circles on this subject!!😂🤪 don’t remember a player that gets such a wide spectrum of views than TC.fenaddick said:Funny that no one has resurrected the Macca thread despite the fact he did exactly the same pass TC did with his first touch and also was involved in another mix up with his feet with Mannion3 -
Campbell played like we were 4-0 up .. hardly bothered to track back , look at the work Leaburn and Kelman put in defensively that’s the difference.. we need better wingers next season better supply .. Campbell back to league one on loan for a season …. Like to see Thomas of Stoke that would be a massive up grade3
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I reckon that will cost you about £15m.RonnieMoore said:Campbell played like we were 4-0 up .. hardly bothered to track back , look at the work Leaburn and Kelman put in defensively that’s the difference.. we need better wingers next season better supply .. Campbell back to league one on loan for a season …. Like to see Thomas of Stoke that would be a massive up grade0 -
What is frustrating about him is that we have seen what he can do. What frustrated me last night was the break we had. He has to get it into his head to try to get in position for a right footed shot. If it gets defended fine but he needs to make those judgements not just run and see how it goes. I think he is a player who will benefit from a sit down with coaches going through videos showing what he could do better. I think he is going to come good for us and is still a work in progress.0
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I'm a big TC fan but I also thought he was poor last night, and not putting in his usual amount of effort. It's happened a few times with his substitute appearances away from home.
For the chance he had on the counter, if he'd have made the run earlier, he'd have been clean through with no chance of the defender catching him. But he was jogging.1 -
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What I find slightly odd about this criticism of TC is that after we scored absolutely every player to a man was a total disgrace on the ball. I think it was because of the stress and adrenaline of defending the position we were in but almost every first touch a player took was too heavy and opened the ball up to be taken away, every pass was too firm or too soft, behind the player or just completely wayward. The only pass I honestly remember being completed in any meaningful way was Carey to TC on the break and Carey played it far, far too late when if he'd shifted it earlier TC would have been properly away. As it was it felt like TC got caught in two minds about whether he should bomb on for goal or try and drag the play up the pitch and by the time he decided he'd lost his advantage and got dispossessed. We had so many opportunities to counter Boro last night after we scored and we wasted every single one. TC came on literally the same minute we scored so his entire game was in a team desperately trying to preserve a one goal lead. It wasn't just him, I thought Dykes was uncharacteristically slow and loose on the ball - completed 1 of his 5 attempted passes - Carey's passing radar was awful as the game wore on, every player looked like they'd rather throw themselves in front of a 400mph shot than actually have the ball at their feet after we scored. It's only TC who seems to be singled out though, it's very strange.11
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The break last night was frustrating, he just ran into a cul-de-sac, when it was crying out to move inside and was then very weak in the tackle, he just got brushed off. It would have been more acceptable had he held onto the ball. He was being used to relieve the pressure, but it kept coming straight back off him, I think maybe that’s part of peoples frustrations.Chunes said:I'm a big TC fan but I also thought he was poor last night, and not putting in his usual amount of effort. It's happened a few times with his substitute appearances away from home.
For the chance he had on the counter, if he'd have made the run earlier, he'd have been clean through with no chance of the defender catching him. But he was jogging.0 -
I get the feeling that's more about confidence and his mindset rather than not caring, being unfit, a lack of effort or a bad attitude.Chunes said:I'm a big TC fan but I also thought he was poor last night, and not putting in his usual amount of effort. It's happened a few times with his substitute appearances away from home.
For the chance he had on the counter, if he'd have made the run earlier, he'd have been clean through with no chance of the defender catching him. But he was jogging.
Kelman's had some similar moments recently, in both cases the players look like they don't quite believe in their own pace or ability with the ball to drive into space and get a shot/pass/cross away.
I'm sure it was mentioned on one of Cawley's recent podcasts by NJ that TC was working with someone on the mental side. If he can improve in that area I think we'd see a bit more end product, winning more free kicks/penalties etc. He's shown he has the pace and control to worry defences at this level, and we need that at the moment with so few other players that offer that combination.6 -
If he’d made the run earlier he’d have been offside because the Boro players were all in our half, he had to stay behind the halfway line, he actually had to slow down because the ball was released a fraction too lateChunes said:I'm a big TC fan but I also thought he was poor last night, and not putting in his usual amount of effort. It's happened a few times with his substitute appearances away from home.
For the chance he had on the counter, if he'd have made the run earlier, he'd have been clean through with no chance of the defender catching him. But he was jogging.3 -
Hmm... Not sure. From memory, there was a Boro nearer the person in posession, and about 10 yards ahead of TC. He just had to make a run on the other side to get closer to level with him and he was through. Could be wrong.fenaddick said:
If he’d made the run earlier he’d have been offside because the Boro players were all in our half, he had to stay behind the halfway line, he actually had to slow down because the ball was released a fraction too lateChunes said:I'm a big TC fan but I also thought he was poor last night, and not putting in his usual amount of effort. It's happened a few times with his substitute appearances away from home.
For the chance he had on the counter, if he'd have made the run earlier, he'd have been clean through with no chance of the defender catching him. But he was jogging.0 -
He wasn’t helped by the pass from Carey that was both played late and on the wrong side of him to run on to.
Performance wise, I felt for him yesterday. He was tasked with supporting Dykes as a second striker and Chambers as a wing back. He ended up getting caught between the two. His recovery runs were good, and whether it was a great performance or not, we didn’t concede and he contributed to that.7 -
Annoyingly it doesn’t make the extended highlights. Either way I think the two things that caused the failure of the counter were a slightly delayed pass and then indecision from TC. I think if he’s confident he’ll take on the shot he drives forward quicker but he couldn’t decide if that or the corner were the better optionsChunes said:
Hmm... Not sure. From memory, there was a Boro nearer the person in posession, and about 10 yards ahead of TC. He just had to make a run on the other side to get closer to level with him and he was through. Could be wrong.fenaddick said:
If he’d made the run earlier he’d have been offside because the Boro players were all in our half, he had to stay behind the halfway line, he actually had to slow down because the ball was released a fraction too lateChunes said:I'm a big TC fan but I also thought he was poor last night, and not putting in his usual amount of effort. It's happened a few times with his substitute appearances away from home.
For the chance he had on the counter, if he'd have made the run earlier, he'd have been clean through with no chance of the defender catching him. But he was jogging.2 -
Wether he’s just shy, no confidence, he really doesn’t look like he’s happy, we know what he can do when he’s on it I wish he would just have that I’m a world beater attitude and make things happen “ which I believe he can “ but he really doesn’t look happy at the moment.0
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People who dislike TC are often way OTT about their criticism and seem to have a magnifying glass on any mistake.
People who like TC are often way OTT about their praise and will have a magnifying glass on any successful pass.
The truth is likely somewhere in the middle.7 -
Missed the game unfortunately as it kicked off at 2.45am here.
TC could be so good, but I've been saying that for far too long, the fact is, he rarely ever produces.
When he got into the area against Birmingham, I didn't even get excited, I knew it would come to nothing.
What really amazes me is that, until recently, he seems to be the first name on the team sheet for NJ, yet he bottles challenges, can't head the ball, and at times, doesn't seem interested.
The very antithesis of a NJ type player.
NJ seems to be taking the motherly love approach, which doesn't appear to be working and the tough love, time out approach, may bring better dividends with TC.
I badly want to see the guy progress, as he undoubtedly has talent, but something needs to change with him.
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