2026/27 Season Tickets (Pricing and Message from Gavin Carter, pg.8)

JohnnyH2 said:

Sword65pf said:

DOUCHER said:

Sword65pf said:

Croydon said:

Sword65pf said:

Croydon said:

Sword65pf said:

Don’t really get people getting precious about moving seats, probably not even that far, like it or not we are basically renting/ buying the seat for a season, if the club decide not to sell that seat, which is they’re prerogative, if you want to still attend there are other seats available.

You consistently have some of the worst takes this forum has ever seen. Almost impressive. 

That’s because you disagree you plonker!!,instead of sweeping statements provide examples, didn’t  realise you were the charlton life post quality police,That’s quite an achievement, I take great pride that it pisses you off so much. Yet another precious fucker no doubt. Have a lovely rest of the day😂👍

Oh it doesn't piss me off, so don't pat yourself on the back too much. You are just clearly the 'plonker' here, not me.

😘no examples then?

That you don’t understand why people who have sat in the same seat for 34 years are pissed off that they have to move - putting aside all the things a lot of them have done for the club - says it all - u must be in a wind up 

Was the west stand built 34years ago? Or 28? And have they all sat there for that long? no I’m not on a wind up, I sympathise but that’s the way it is, pick a new seat. Sorry if I’m not towing the line, but unpopular or not it’s my opinion.

Part of the Lower West was first built in the summer of 1994 and there will be people who have had the same seat since then

killerandflash said:

Airman Brown said:

On Gold game pricing the actual increase for away fans is £3 adults, £2 concessions and £1 kids. Let’s be generous and assume that there is a very high percentage of full price adult sales to away fans, so the average price increase is £2.50 including VAT - about £2.08 x 3,300 away fans = £6,864 net.

if we assume the average net price of a home match ticket is £20 (lots more concessions and kids but quite conservative even so), you only need to put off 300-350 people to offset the extra away revenue. I don’t think you can argue the effect is zero, otherwise why not charge the higher prices for every game?

The home sale on yesterday’s numbers will be far smaller than the away sale, if we take the club’s ST claim at face value, and as above the concession rate is higher. So we are probably talking about £10k/£11k total  uplift in revenue minus the lost ticket sales minus related ancillary sales (which admittedly aren’t worth much next to tickets).

I can see a business case if there is genuinely strong demand for a game, but Sheffield Wednesday, Norwich, etc? Not really. I think you just give people a reason to stay at home.

Agreed. The gold pricing would actually make more financial sense if the away fans were in a more expensive side stand, as that way you could charge then £35 (not that I'm suggesting that).

Instead, as they are priced at the same price as the cheapest stand (lower CE), the big effect is on the individual prices of the side stands. Resulting in empty stands. 

I'm not sure any of our remaining games are that attractive to the neutral. And the cheapest ticket to see Norwich  at £30 is way too much. And for my seat in the Curbs, £40 is ludicrous. They're hardly glamorous, and our football isn't exactly "premium quality" either. The hardcore fans will be very happy watching us grind out the points to keep us up, but it's hardly a fun watch for the neutral...

Sword65pf said:

JohnnyH2 said:

Sword65pf said:

DOUCHER said:

Sword65pf said:

Croydon said:

Sword65pf said:

Croydon said:

Sword65pf said:

Don’t really get people getting precious about moving seats, probably not even that far, like it or not we are basically renting/ buying the seat for a season, if the club decide not to sell that seat, which is they’re prerogative, if you want to still attend there are other seats available.

You consistently have some of the worst takes this forum has ever seen. Almost impressive. 

That’s because you disagree you plonker!!,instead of sweeping statements provide examples, didn’t  realise you were the charlton life post quality police,That’s quite an achievement, I take great pride that it pisses you off so much. Yet another precious fucker no doubt. Have a lovely rest of the day😂👍

Oh it doesn't piss me off, so don't pat yourself on the back too much. You are just clearly the 'plonker' here, not me.

😘no examples then?

That you don’t understand why people who have sat in the same seat for 34 years are pissed off that they have to move - putting aside all the things a lot of them have done for the club - says it all - u must be in a wind up 

Was the west stand built 34years ago? Or 28? And have they all sat there for that long? no I’m not on a wind up, I sympathise but that’s the way it is, pick a new seat. Sorry if I’m not towing the line, but unpopular or not it’s my opinion.

Part of the Lower West was first built in the summer of 1994 and there will be people who have had the same seat since then

Unfortunate, things change, we all have to adapt.

bobmunro said:

Sword65pf said:

superclive98 said:

Sword65pf said:

JohnnyH2 said:

The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).

The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it. 

The corporate changes are far more  complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.

Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.

I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League One

Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there. 

It is what normal businesses do if they are inconveniencing an existing "customer".

It’s not an inconvenience, there are plenty of seats available.There is a clear reason the club is doing what it is, unfortunately people will have to adapt. People wanting discounts for no reason.

I was informed the day before season ticket renewal was launched with a standard email basically saying you can't renew your season ticket seats and come along to The Valley on the 18 March so we can help you choose a new one. I can do that myself.

I raised the option of waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline passes to see if better seats become available - yes I can do that but presumably (in the absence of anything to the contrary) no mention of retaining Early Bird discount. I can also keep my seats if I upgrade to hospitality. AT NO POINT HAVE I EXPECTED A DISCOUNT.

Although pissed off I accept the club are able to do what they want in terms of what they sell and to whom - I know, despite being reminded by idiots, that it was not MY seat.

It's the way they have gone about it that has seriously irked me - no organisation should treat their customers in that way irrespective of how long standing those customers may be. If the club had treated me (and the other fans affected) as something other than a commodity I would have almost certainly renewed, as I have for years since moving north despite a minimum three hours each way journey.

 

ElfsborgAddick said:

bobmunro said:

Weegie Addick said:

Maybe rather than discount, giving those inconvenienced first opportunity to choose alternative seats or a special offer to keep current seat with hospitality upgrade would have been appropriate? Just because fans don’t like to be called customers, it doesn’t excuse the real need for decent “customer service” from the club when they choose to impose such changes. 

To be fair, Ed Warrick has said to me that any seats that become available after the ST renewal deadline would be offered to me for consideration before they were released for sale. I would hope and expect that is also the case for all the others not able to renew their existing seats.

I'd tell him to poke it.

Albeit a bit more polite

fenaddick said:

Agreed, Saturday's attendance was only disappointing because of what we've got used to this season. Last season we only got close to/surpassed 19k 4 times which were Wrexham (24,692), Northampton (20,198), Burton (20,971) and Wycombe in the play offs (25,722). The next highest was Huddersfield (17,278). Against Birmingham last year we had an attendance of 16,250 so we still had an extra 2k "sold"

Sword65pf said:

DOUCHER said:

Sword65pf said:

JohnnyH2 said:

Sword65pf said:

DOUCHER said:

Sword65pf said:

Croydon said:

Sword65pf said:

Croydon said:

Sword65pf said:

Don’t really get people getting precious about moving seats, probably not even that far, like it or not we are basically renting/ buying the seat for a season, if the club decide not to sell that seat, which is they’re prerogative, if you want to still attend there are other seats available.

You consistently have some of the worst takes this forum has ever seen. Almost impressive. 

That’s because you disagree you plonker!!,instead of sweeping statements provide examples, didn’t  realise you were the charlton life post quality police,That’s quite an achievement, I take great pride that it pisses you off so much. Yet another precious fucker no doubt. Have a lovely rest of the day😂👍

Oh it doesn't piss me off, so don't pat yourself on the back too much. You are just clearly the 'plonker' here, not me.

😘no examples then?

That you don’t understand why people who have sat in the same seat for 34 years are pissed off that they have to move - putting aside all the things a lot of them have done for the club - says it all - u must be in a wind up 

Was the west stand built 34years ago? Or 28? And have they all sat there for that long? no I’m not on a wind up, I sympathise but that’s the way it is, pick a new seat. Sorry if I’m not towing the line, but unpopular or not it’s my opinion.

Part of the Lower West was first built in the summer of 1994 and there will be people who have had the same seat since then

Unfortunate, things change, we all have to adapt.

yes, and sometimes people try to change things and get it completely wrong so need to be told 

We will see.pick another seat.

CheshireAddick said:

bobmunro said:

Henry Irving said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

killerandflash said:

blackpool72 said:

AFKABartram said:

Club have done a lot of good last couple of years and that should not be dismissed, but the one nagging gap I think is there is I never think they really understand our fanbase and the intricacies of football support. 

To be perfectly honest I don't think our owners and SMT have understood our fanbase since the days of Murray, Simmons and Varney. 
In those days we seemed to have a much closer relationship. 

To be fair,  player wages are way higher in real terms than they were back in the 90s when we were building the club up.

In the Championship,  the wages and budgets are ludicrous now, requiring deep pockets from the owners. 

And that is why anything that can help get promotion to the PL should be prioritised; and the cheapest and more effective route of achieving it is to try and fill the Valley for home games to give Nathan and the players as much support as possible 

Sparrows Lane. Phone rings

Nathan Jones: Morning

Gavin Carter: Hi Nathan, it's good news and bad news

Nathan Jones: Hi Mr Chairman, hit me with it, my faith makes me strong

GC: Good news is we've sold more season tickets

NJ: Great, can't beat a packed out Valley, whats the bad news?

GC: well, we cut prices to sell more season tickets, we sold 3000 more but got less income overall so your transfer budget has been cut

NJ: but our megarich owners will make up the difference, right?

GC: they'd love to but financial fair play rules limite what they can put in as a percentage of income.

NJ: can't you flog more hospitality?

GC: we tried but when we expanded the hospitality seating area we upset a few existing ST holders, one bloke said he was going back to supporting Stoke

NJ: Agh, don't mention Stoke to me. So how can we be the best versions of ourselves with no budget?

GC: we're sure Ahadme and Tanto will do the business for us and there are some really promising kids in the U18s, Nathan? Are you still there Nathan?

Nantwich Town now for my football fix now - ST about £80, sit where I like or wander around the pitch with pint in hand cheering on the mighty Dabbers, and it's a 15 minute drive from home.

Runcorn Linnets for me as my Son in Law is playing for them.

Take care of Rooney, he was harshly treated by their new manager .

se9addick said:

I’d missed that if you renew in the first two windows you get additional loyalty points, that’s new isn’t it?

MartinCAFC said:

msomerton said:

Crispywood said:

fenaddick said:

Agreed, Saturday's attendance was only disappointing because of what we've got used to this season. Last season we only got close to/surpassed 19k 4 times which were Wrexham (24,692), Northampton (20,198), Burton (20,971) and Wycombe in the play offs (25,722). The next highest was Huddersfield (17,278). Against Birmingham last year we had an attendance of 16,250 so we still had an extra 2k "sold"

Do need to consider brum brought 3k for the game as well wonder if we ever get to a point where we would to increase away capacity to make some extra money, assuming it doesn’t interfere with home season tickets or starts to disrupt the atmosphere at games 

Do you think it would be a good idea having say 500 to 1000 away fans , in the carpark mixing with a few thousand home fans and next to the home fans zone. I reckon the players and directors may worry about their cars.
that is the issues in the West Stand.

Pretty sure the club would have thought through the logistics of the West Upper given they were going to test this as an away designated area if we’d not got promoted for when teams bring small followings. 

Guess you could use it as an optional overspill area, maybe not high risk games but would make sense when teams like Pompey bring a full allocation.