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2026/27 Season Tickets (Pricing and Message from Gavin Carter, pg.8)
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You tell him mate, don't take no s***bobmunro said:lonman said:
You should maybe have a word with yourself. You're a 'CAST' member and acting like a petulant 4 year old. Surely you support the team not a seat.bobmunro said:ElfsborgAddick said:
@bobmunro has been priced out with others......bolloxbolder said:
I find this post really sad. A devoted , longstanding loyal supporter no longer watching his beloved club, as the club without consultation turf him out of his seat, one he has occupied for many years.bobmunro said:Henry Irving said:letthegoodtimesroll said:
And that is why anything that can help get promotion to the PL should be prioritised; and the cheapest and more effective route of achieving it is to try and fill the Valley for home games to give Nathan and the players as much support as possiblekillerandflash said:
To be fair, player wages are way higher in real terms than they were back in the 90s when we were building the club up.blackpool72 said:
To be perfectly honest I don't think our owners and SMT have understood our fanbase since the days of Murray, Simmons and Varney.AFKABartram said:Club have done a lot of good last couple of years and that should not be dismissed, but the one nagging gap I think is there is I never think they really understand our fanbase and the intricacies of football support.
In those days we seemed to have a much closer relationship.
In the Championship, the wages and budgets are ludicrous now, requiring deep pockets from the owners.
Sparrows Lane. Phone rings
Nathan Jones: Morning
Gavin Carter: Hi Nathan, it's good news and bad news
Nathan Jones: Hi Mr Chairman, hit me with it, my faith makes me strong
GC: Good news is we've sold more season tickets
NJ: Great, can't beat a packed out Valley, whats the bad news?
GC: well, we cut prices to sell more season tickets, we sold 3000 more but got less income overall so your transfer budget has been cut
NJ: but our megarich owners will make up the difference, right?
GC: they'd love to but financial fair play rules limite what they can put in as a percentage of income.
NJ: can't you flog more hospitality?
GC: we tried but when we expanded the hospitality seating area we upset a few existing ST holders, one bloke said he was going back to supporting Stoke
NJ: Agh, don't mention Stoke to me. So how can we be the best versions of ourselves with no budget?
GC: we're sure Ahadme and Tanto will do the business for us and there are some really promising kids in the U18s, Nathan? Are you still there Nathan?
Nantwich Town now for my football fix now - ST about £80, sit where I like or wander around the pitch with pint in hand cheering on the mighty Dabbers, and it's a 15 minute drive from home.
I hope you feel able to share on here any reply you receive from the club to your letter.
Shame on you Charlton. A real own goal.
I'll buy the whole of the 1905 suite, leave it empty, sit in our seats and with no other prawn sandwich merchants anywhere near us.It was a tongue in cheek comment in response to another tongue in cheek comment that I had been priced out.As for being a petulant 4 year old, well ...
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The main problem I see is that the prices won’t incentivise new ST holders.There isn’t a clear financial case for buying / spending up front when we haven’t shared the ‘final’ price for the forthcoming season or pay on the day. This is relevant because of the number of games people might not attend - evenings / midday kick offs etc.
To be fair I can see that the early bird prices are probably an incentive to renew and has likely been implemented at a better price than feared.The uncertainty on VG seems strange. How hard can it be to agree what this will / won’t offer next year. Smacks of they do know but won’t tell.2 -
Sword65pf said:
It’s not an inconvenience, there are plenty of seats available.There is a clear reason the club is doing what it is, unfortunately people will have to adapt. People wanting discounts for no reason.superclive98 said:
It is what normal businesses do if they are inconveniencing an existing "customer".Sword65pf said:
Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there.JohnnyH2 said:The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).
The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it.
The corporate changes are far more complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.
Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.
I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League OneI was informed the day before season ticket renewal was launched with a standard email basically saying you can't renew your season ticket seats and come along to The Valley on the 18 March so we can help you choose a new one. I can do that myself.I raised the option of waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline passes to see if better seats become available - yes I can do that but presumably (in the absence of anything to the contrary) no mention of retaining Early Bird discount. I can also keep my seats if I upgrade to hospitality. AT NO POINT HAVE I EXPECTED A DISCOUNT.Although pissed off I accept the club are able to do what they want in terms of what they sell and to whom - I know, despite being reminded by idiots, that it was not MY seat.It's the way they have gone about it that has seriously irked me - no organisation should treat their customers in that way irrespective of how long standing those customers may be. If the club had treated me (and the other fans affected) as something other than a commodity I would have almost certainly renewed, as I have for years since moving north despite a minimum three hours each way journey.
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They're not stupid though!bobmunro said:Sword65pf said:
It’s not an inconvenience, there are plenty of seats available.There is a clear reason the club is doing what it is, unfortunately people will have to adapt. People wanting discounts for no reason.superclive98 said:
It is what normal businesses do if they are inconveniencing an existing "customer".Sword65pf said:
Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there.JohnnyH2 said:The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).
The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it.
The corporate changes are far more complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.
Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.
I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League OneI was informed the day before season ticket renewal was launched with a standard email basically saying you can't renew your season ticket seats and come along to The Valley on the 18 March so we can help you choose a new one. I can do that myself.I raised the option of waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline passes to see if better seats become available - yes I can do that but presumably (in the absence of anything to the contrary) no mention of retaining Early Bird discount. I can also keep my seats if I upgrade to hospitality. AT NO POINT HAVE I EXPECTED A DISCOUNT.Although pissed off I accept the club are able to do what they want in terms of what they sell and to whom - I know, despite being reminded by idiots, that it was not MY seat.It's the way they have gone about it that has seriously irked me - no organisation should treat their customers in that way irrespective of how long standing those customers may be. If the club had treated me (and the other fans affected) as something other than a commodity I would have almost certainly renewed, as I have for years since moving north despite a minimum three hours each way journey.0 -
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Not saying everyone is expecting discount Bob, but some do and I don’t see why, I do understand that people like to do the same thing, sit in the same place as they have always done, but sometimes things change and as much as people don’t like me saying it, that’s the way it is and a move to another seat probably not far away from the original place isn’t the end of the world. Don’t think it’s on calling people idiots for stating facts though, none of the seats we sit in are ‘ours’. We do have a very sensitive fan base at times.bobmunro said:Sword65pf said:
It’s not an inconvenience, there are plenty of seats available.There is a clear reason the club is doing what it is, unfortunately people will have to adapt. People wanting discounts for no reason.superclive98 said:
It is what normal businesses do if they are inconveniencing an existing "customer".Sword65pf said:
Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there.JohnnyH2 said:The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).
The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it.
The corporate changes are far more complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.
Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.
I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League OneI was informed the day before season ticket renewal was launched with a standard email basically saying you can't renew your season ticket seats and come along to The Valley on the 18 March so we can help you choose a new one. I can do that myself.I raised the option of waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline passes to see if better seats become available - yes I can do that but presumably (in the absence of anything to the contrary) no mention of retaining Early Bird discount. I can also keep my seats if I upgrade to hospitality. AT NO POINT HAVE I EXPECTED A DISCOUNT.Although pissed off I accept the club are able to do what they want in terms of what they sell and to whom - I know, despite being reminded by idiots, that it was not MY seat.It's the way they have gone about it that has seriously irked me - no organisation should treat their customers in that way irrespective of how long standing those customers may be. If the club had treated me (and the other fans affected) as something other than a commodity I would have almost certainly renewed, as I have for years since moving north despite a minimum three hours each way journey.0 -
Sword65pf said:
Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there.JohnnyH2 said:The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).
The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it.
The corporate changes are far more complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.
Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.
I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League OneIt's what's known as "a gesture of goodwill". When my parents sat over in the East they got to become friends with the people that they sat with, and if the club had decided to make their seats unavailable it woud've been a massive pain in the arse to coordinate the disparate family groups to find suitable new seats together. The only reason the seat isn't for sale is because the club have chosen not to make it so, it's not as a result of some kind of external force, so a discount would help mitigate that inconvenience6 -
Sword65pf said:
Not saying everyone is expecting discount Bob, but some do and I don’t see why, I do understand that people like to do the same thing, sit in the same place as they have always done, but sometimes things change and as much as people don’t like me saying it, that’s the way it is and a move to another seat probably not far away from the original place isn’t the end of the world. Don’t think it’s on calling people idiots for stating facts though, none of the seats we sit in are ‘ours’. We do have a very sensitive fan base at times.bobmunro said:Sword65pf said:
It’s not an inconvenience, there are plenty of seats available.There is a clear reason the club is doing what it is, unfortunately people will have to adapt. People wanting discounts for no reason.superclive98 said:
It is what normal businesses do if they are inconveniencing an existing "customer".Sword65pf said:
Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there.JohnnyH2 said:The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).
The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it.
The corporate changes are far more complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.
Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.
I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League OneI was informed the day before season ticket renewal was launched with a standard email basically saying you can't renew your season ticket seats and come along to The Valley on the 18 March so we can help you choose a new one. I can do that myself.I raised the option of waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline passes to see if better seats become available - yes I can do that but presumably (in the absence of anything to the contrary) no mention of retaining Early Bird discount. I can also keep my seats if I upgrade to hospitality. AT NO POINT HAVE I EXPECTED A DISCOUNT.Although pissed off I accept the club are able to do what they want in terms of what they sell and to whom - I know, despite being reminded by idiots, that it was not MY seat.It's the way they have gone about it that has seriously irked me - no organisation should treat their customers in that way irrespective of how long standing those customers may be. If the club had treated me (and the other fans affected) as something other than a commodity I would have almost certainly renewed, as I have for years since moving north despite a minimum three hours each way journey.
The idiot reference wasn't meant for you - but I had stated that fact way back in this thread and have never claimed any ownership of the seat.0 -
You have carved 'Bob Munro - My Charlton Throne' on it though6
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He's going to unbolt it after the last game of the season and pop it in his living roomAlwaysneil said:You have carved 'Bob Munro - My Charlton Throne' on it though1 -
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If the club had communicated in the right way, but that is obviously too difficult.bobmunro said:Sword65pf said:
Not saying everyone is expecting discount Bob, but some do and I don’t see why, I do understand that people like to do the same thing, sit in the same place as they have always done, but sometimes things change and as much as people don’t like me saying it, that’s the way it is and a move to another seat probably not far away from the original place isn’t the end of the world. Don’t think it’s on calling people idiots for stating facts though, none of the seats we sit in are ‘ours’. We do have a very sensitive fan base at times.bobmunro said:Sword65pf said:
It’s not an inconvenience, there are plenty of seats available.There is a clear reason the club is doing what it is, unfortunately people will have to adapt. People wanting discounts for no reason.superclive98 said:
It is what normal businesses do if they are inconveniencing an existing "customer".Sword65pf said:
Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there.JohnnyH2 said:The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).
The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it.
The corporate changes are far more complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.
Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.
I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League OneI was informed the day before season ticket renewal was launched with a standard email basically saying you can't renew your season ticket seats and come along to The Valley on the 18 March so we can help you choose a new one. I can do that myself.I raised the option of waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline passes to see if better seats become available - yes I can do that but presumably (in the absence of anything to the contrary) no mention of retaining Early Bird discount. I can also keep my seats if I upgrade to hospitality. AT NO POINT HAVE I EXPECTED A DISCOUNT.Although pissed off I accept the club are able to do what they want in terms of what they sell and to whom - I know, despite being reminded by idiots, that it was not MY seat.It's the way they have gone about it that has seriously irked me - no organisation should treat their customers in that way irrespective of how long standing those customers may be. If the club had treated me (and the other fans affected) as something other than a commodity I would have almost certainly renewed, as I have for years since moving north despite a minimum three hours each way journey.
The idiot reference wasn't meant for you - but I had stated that fact way back in this thread and have never claimed any ownership of the seat.3 -
Mate wasn’t suggesting it was, although some probably do have that opinion😂, I won’t lose sleep over that. I do sympathise but also think there are bigger things to get annoyed about.🤷🏻♂️bobmunro said:Sword65pf said:
Not saying everyone is expecting discount Bob, but some do and I don’t see why, I do understand that people like to do the same thing, sit in the same place as they have always done, but sometimes things change and as much as people don’t like me saying it, that’s the way it is and a move to another seat probably not far away from the original place isn’t the end of the world. Don’t think it’s on calling people idiots for stating facts though, none of the seats we sit in are ‘ours’. We do have a very sensitive fan base at times.bobmunro said:Sword65pf said:
It’s not an inconvenience, there are plenty of seats available.There is a clear reason the club is doing what it is, unfortunately people will have to adapt. People wanting discounts for no reason.superclive98 said:
It is what normal businesses do if they are inconveniencing an existing "customer".Sword65pf said:
Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there.JohnnyH2 said:The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).
The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it.
The corporate changes are far more complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.
Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.
I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League OneI was informed the day before season ticket renewal was launched with a standard email basically saying you can't renew your season ticket seats and come along to The Valley on the 18 March so we can help you choose a new one. I can do that myself.I raised the option of waiting until after the season ticket renewal deadline passes to see if better seats become available - yes I can do that but presumably (in the absence of anything to the contrary) no mention of retaining Early Bird discount. I can also keep my seats if I upgrade to hospitality. AT NO POINT HAVE I EXPECTED A DISCOUNT.Although pissed off I accept the club are able to do what they want in terms of what they sell and to whom - I know, despite being reminded by idiots, that it was not MY seat.It's the way they have gone about it that has seriously irked me - no organisation should treat their customers in that way irrespective of how long standing those customers may be. If the club had treated me (and the other fans affected) as something other than a commodity I would have almost certainly renewed, as I have for years since moving north despite a minimum three hours each way journey.
The idiot reference wasn't meant for you - but I had stated that fact way back in this thread and have never claimed any ownership of the seat.1 -
I fully understand the point, but don’t feel discount is necessary, maybe down the line arrange a match in hospitality as a ‘goodwill gesture’ if that’s what people feel they are entitled to.aliwibble said:Sword65pf said:
Why should people be offered a discount for moving a seat, probably not very far away, if the seat isn’t for sale you can’t sit there.JohnnyH2 said:The moving of seats issue is always sensitive and needs to be handled with great care. It just feels like a lot of times to me that the current SMT does not have a handle of what long term supporters want (other than results which they have achieved).
The dug out issue has been so obvious for ages it needed sorting and this SMT are dealing with it.
The corporate changes are far more complicated. The club made it sound when this was announced last week that it was due to issues with current corporate access is causing issues. So if its as simple as that just do swaps with those in corporates against those like Bob Munro, not a perfect solution bit handled right it could be a smooth process.
Instead it seems like they are kicking out current season ticket holders, offering them nothing in return like a discount, or different options in the ground and all of this should have been done well in advance of any season ticket announcement.
I reckon those being booted out is for your foreign day trippers, watch our empty those sections will be for midweek games or the majority of games if we are in League OneIt's what's known as "a gesture of goodwill". When my parents sat over in the East they got to become friends with the people that they sat with, and if the club had decided to make their seats unavailable it woud've been a massive pain in the arse to coordinate the disparate family groups to find suitable new seats together. The only reason the seat isn't for sale is because the club have chosen not to make it so, it's not as a result of some kind of external force, so a discount would help mitigate that inconvenience0 -
Maybe rather than discount, giving those inconvenienced first opportunity to choose alternative seats or a special offer to keep current seat with hospitality upgrade would have been appropriate? Just because fans don’t like to be called customers, it doesn’t excuse the real need for decent “customer service” from the club when they choose to impose such changes.5
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Agree, explained better than I have.👍Weegie Addick said:Maybe rather than discount, giving those inconvenienced first opportunity to choose alternative seats or a special offer to keep current seat with hospitality upgrade would have been appropriate? Just because fans don’t like to be called customers, it doesn’t excuse the real need for decent “customer service” from the club when they choose to impose such changes.0 -
To be fair, Ed Warrick has said to me that any seats that become available after the ST renewal deadline would be offered to me for consideration before they were released for sale. I would hope and expect that is also the case for all the others not able to renew their existing seats.Weegie Addick said:Maybe rather than discount, giving those inconvenienced first opportunity to choose alternative seats or a special offer to keep current seat with hospitality upgrade would have been appropriate? Just because fans don’t like to be called customers, it doesn’t excuse the real need for decent “customer service” from the club when they choose to impose such changes.
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Seeing how painfully empty the West Stand is today, you’ve got to laugh at the logic of turfing out those who make the highest committed ticket spend in the ground!
Just no sense to it.Whose brainwave was this?20 -
Charging £40 for walk ups to sit over there is ludicrous.AFKABartram said:Seeing how painfully empty the West Stand is today, you’ve got to laugh at the logic of turfing out those who make the highest committed ticket spend in the ground!
Just no sense to it.Whose brainwave was this?0 -
Tbf the East was even emptierAFKABartram said:Seeing how painfully empty the West Stand is today, you’ve got to laugh at the logic of turfing out those who make the highest committed ticket spend in the ground!
Just no sense to it.Whose brainwave was this?0 -
Highest sales on ST Launch Day for 10 years
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/2030250358153388275?s=46
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AFKABartram said:Seeing how painfully empty the West Stand is today, you’ve got to laugh at the logic of turfing out those who make the highest committed ticket spend in the ground!
Just no sense to it.Whose brainwave was this?.Yes, it’s madness to bin off multi-decade supporters from their ST seat in preference of a corporate offering that will last as long as the average Charlton players hamstring.Other than new “leaders” thinking they need to make an “impact” I have no idea why we would do this. Are we maxing out the hospitality we currently have? Is there significant demand for more? Does that demand necessitate ousting loyal fans who have held those seats through thick and thin?
I’m just a simple urchin from the North Upper so this doesn’t impact me directly, but it feels ominous for how things will proceed. I’m particularly concerned about what looks likely to happen to Valley Gold, that’s a bit of a sacred cow which makes us different to your run of the mill club and I worry it’s about to be sacrificed.6 -
The number of empty seats would suggest that we havent got the matchday pricing right.
Plus the tourists who seem to have replaced the local day trippers are so annoying. It's almost unbearable at times when you get a group of them near you3 -
PR bollocks. A completely meaningless comparison that just provides false expectations.sammy391 said:Highest sales on ST Launch Day for 10 years
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/2030250358153388275?s=46We will have less ST holders not more next season, so putting out such statements will just look silly16 -
AFKABartram said:
PR bollocks. A completely meaningless comparison that just provides false expectations.sammy391 said:Highest sales on ST Launch Day for 10 years
https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/2030250358153388275?s=46We will have less ST holders not more next season, so putting out such statements will just look sillyWe sold 12.5k STs this season - probably the most we've sold for many, many years. It's possible that we sold a similar amount in 2019 but many were not renewed in 2020 after relegation. As a mathematician would say as a prefix - it follows that the more we have now the higher the figure for immediate renewals will be, especially as we are relatively safer now than we were in 2019/20 at the same stage. Starting at that higher level is almost certain to raise the actual number immediately renewed and it may well be the most in 10 years.Lies, damn lies and all that.3 -
West Lower right at the very back row of B block. It’s perfect for us as is right now as I said we have a pillar to our left and no one behind us with the glass windows of 1905. Means we can control our son in terms of not wanting to climb behind or elsewhere and the players families sit next to us where most have young children too, so always very friendly and engaging and he loves interacting with other kids as well as now really into the football too. There isn’t really another place in the stadium that has these things. The family stand of course we’d get my son’s ticket free, but saving £70 isn’t going to make the difference for us and not for what we need in a game to make it worthwhile.Covered End said:
Where do you sit Sage and isn’t there a cheaper block a little further away?Sage said:For me I said it might be the first year I can’t afford to renew, and now it’s out, I stand by that. For my seat alone is a 19% increase on the price I paid for this season. My salary has not gone up 19% and I provide a better service than the club do for my seat. So add my wife and son in to that, it’s around £1200. Might not seem bad to some, but I don’t have that kind of money to drop on season tickets now, and when you have a 2 year old by the new season starts (he’s been going since he was 4 weeks old, we’ve shown it’s possible) - he needs his own seat and the location of our seats currently allow us to feel secure with him (no one behind us, a pillar blocking one part of the row, familiar faces that also engage with him etc.) we don’t want to move to a totally new part of the ground with the extra stress it will inevitably bring/cause.
The whole no discount and new membership scheme with Valley Gold etc is just a money grab now. The club slipped up before on a matchday announcement and said some of your money for Valley Gold goes towards the academy with the rest into the club. I don’t know if that’s how it’s been for a while but it wasn’t what was sold as Valley Gold when I joined. My idea was that Valley Gold goes towards the academy in whatever way that may be, otherwise why advertise it with photos of academy players if a % of it goes into paying Rodwell’s salary for example? To bring it all in house makes sure the club are saying we want this revenue and we want to maximise it as much as possible by introducing a new membership scheme that you will no doubt have to pay for.
Clubs with membership schemes only work when there is a real demand for tickets. All the while you can walk up on a match day and purchase a ticket for the game, without any problem, these memberships schemes wont work and will in fact work as a way of frustrating fans. And we give away how many free tickets every single week through comps? Work on getting more people through the door on a regular basis at an affordable price and then think about new memberships.
I can see them doing something like £10 for Valley Gold as is now, then if you want the benefits that come with it or a discounted price on your season ticket or whatever it might be, the new rate is say £25 but they’d sell it as you get all of these things included. Yet most you won’t want and now you’re having to pay extra for it, so you’re not saving anything.
Ultimately, of course I want the club to be successful but I also want to be able to go to games with my family as I have been able to, and the prices either don’t match the product or don’t allow for me to do that right now. So of course I am going to be unhappy about it.
What about the Family Stand?
It’ll be a real shame if you can’t find an alternative.2 -
@Sage the ST comms says those in West affected by zone change can renew at the price for current zone - so that delays your pain by a year?3
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I assume the biggest problem for people being told to move is that they have sat with family, friends and acquaintances for 25 years.
It’s possible that the people that are content to move have no friends and no one talks to them.8 -
The 1905 lounge had about 220 for Chelsea match and nearer 100 for the Blackburn game the week before.
Norm prolly 120-150
i sit just to the right of the directors box as you look at the pitch and it’s always empty around there but you’re covered if it rains.
the Vista lounge hasn’t sold many , their seats are upper west I believe .
The uptake in the lounge isn’t great , I just don’t believe the demand is there.
Where are the people’s seats that are being moved from?
I don’t understand it, the seats where we are are always empty and you won’t get wet if it rains , they don’t need to move any one cos where I sit these are always empty and a brilliant view and for the Chelsea match were mainly filled up with punters NOT from the lounge .
I could sit in the directors box on a padded seat but choose not to cos the views is as good on the other side of the fence and I’d rather be on the outside effing and jeffing and c**ting everyone off rather than pretending to be happy mixing with the hob nobs .
I genuinely can not understand this movement of loyal fans , there are plenty of premium empty seats where I sit , obviously I’m glad there’s less people near me but being realistic these are seats that are premium and easily good enough for whatever lounge bollox is needed .15 -
I agree to a point, but it’s also about demand. A few seasons back they were giving swathes of tickets for free and couldn’t fill the ground. I reckon, and could be wrong, there is a hardcore of 8/9 k people who will always buy a season ticket, 3-4k of floating season ticket purchasers, they’re more sensitive to pricing / team performance. I don’t believe if they cut the price for a season ticket 25% the increase in sales would cover the revenue lost. The demand to watch Charlton is simply not there.Croydon said:The number of empty seats would suggest that we havent got the matchday pricing right.
Plus the tourists who seem to have replaced the local day trippers are so annoying. It's almost unbearable at times when you get a group of them near you
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