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+++ Charlton complete Thomas Kaminski signing +++

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,134
    edited March 2
    Agree about Mannion's kicking. Surprised it hasn't been mentioned more. 
  • TK saves that shot on Saturday 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,879
    Not too fussed on Kaminski being injured because whilst i don't think he's as bad as a lot of people make out, i do think Mannion is a capable deputy. Neither are spectacular, not great, not terrible.

    The issue of course is if Mannion gets injured/suspended. We've then got to play a guy who's never made a league appearance and was playing for Gateshead a few weeks ago.
  • scruffle
    scruffle Posts: 2,363
    The issue of course is if Mannion gets injured/suspended. We've then got to play a guy who's never made a league appearance and was playing for Gateshead a few weeks ago.
    He did have a hell of a lot of practising shot stopping there thou and taking goal kicks!!
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,484
    Keeper is arguably the least important position for us considering the defence does 90% of the work anyway. If you look at the games we’ve kept 11 clean sheets and picked up most our wins, besides Sheffield United, QPR, West Brom and arguably Ipswich Kaminski has had nothing to do. As long as they don’t concede a lot of horror long shots we often don’t need our keeper to do too much 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,617
    edited March 3
    He’s a funny one. There’s a calmness about him, but he never quite takes charge of his box, either with his voice or presence. He’ll pull off a couple of superb saves, then throw in something that makes him look like he’s only just started keeping.

    His kicking is similar in that it's either rushed/weak, or on the money to start the move for a goal like Derby away and Stoke at home.

    Just as he’d hit top form, helped by having actual wing backs in front of him, he made that awful error against Portsmouth. For someone with his experience, he’s a tricky one to summarise! 
  • ns9
    ns9 Posts: 34
    mendonca said:
    He’s a funny one. There’s a calmness about him, but he never quite takes charge of his box, either with his voice or presence. He’ll pull off a couple of superb saves, then throw in something that makes him look like he’s only just started keeping.

    His kicking is similar in that it's either rushed/weak, or on the money to start the move for a goal like Derby away and Stoke at home.

    Just as he’d hit top form, helped by having actual wing backs in front of him, he made that awful error against Portsmouth. For someone with his experience, he’s a tricky one to summarise! 
    I would have a calmness about me if I was on a (reported) £20k a week…
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,194
    I must have blinked when he showed that calmness.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 22,589
    I must have blinked when he showed that calmness.
    I present to you.... Ashley Maynard-Brewer 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 52,044
    Keeper is arguably the least important position for us considering the defence does 90% of the work anyway. If you look at the games we’ve kept 11 clean sheets and picked up most our wins, besides Sheffield United, QPR, West Brom and arguably Ipswich Kaminski has had nothing to do. As long as they don’t concede a lot of horror long shots we often don’t need our keeper to do too much 
    So other than 36% of our clean sheets he hasn't had to do much...

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  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,540
    TK saves that shot on Saturday 

    I said this in realtime, watching it back it was a quality finish, manion didnt have much of a chance
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 246
    I must have blinked when he showed that calmness.
    Did you not stay until the final whistle against QPR?
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,194
    I must have blinked when he showed that calmness.
    Did you not stay until the final whistle against QPR?
    Got nothing to do with being calm. He made a save.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 29,740
    edited March 4
    I must have blinked when he showed that calmness.
    Did you not stay until the final whistle against QPR?
    Got nothing to do with being calm. He made a save.
    In the words of Roy Keane, that's his job.
  • CAFCsayer said:
    TK saves that shot on Saturday 

    I said this in realtime, watching it back it was a quality finish, manion didnt have much of a chance
    Yeah I agree it was a good shot, but TK isn't perfect but he is a great shot stopper and a great overall keeper imo
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,167
    Back training, lets see who plays tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42aJ6UncMVk
  • fenaddick said:
    Back training, lets see who plays tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42aJ6UncMVk
    Well if its Kaminski, Jones has lost the plot big time with his goalkeeping selection.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,329
    fenaddick said:
    Back training, lets see who plays tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42aJ6UncMVk
    Would be incredibly harsh on Mannion to lose it now
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,550
    While I agree it would be harsh for Mannion to be dropped, he was only playing because Kaminski was injured. At end of the day and whether a lot of fans like it or not, Kaminski is currently our first choice keeper. 

    If Kaminski is fully fit and we start Mannion today, then Mannion has to be the keeper for rest of season. We can't have a situation where he keeps playing until a big mistake and then Kaminski is brought back in. 

    Big decision for Nathan to make today. 
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,401
    I’d be disappointed but not surprised if TK comes back in

    Mannion just looks safer to me claims everything in the box and actually catches the ball rather than pushing to the side of flapping

    I am pretty sure Lloyd Jones and the rest of the defence would prefer Mannion behind them as well

    For a game like today we need a strong set piece keeper 

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  • BartramBlitz
    BartramBlitz Posts: 689
    edited March 14
    Get rid of TK.Not worth the wages. Invest TK salary in a better CF. Mannion is a better and cheaper keeper. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,762
    Pigs on the pitch if Mannion is dropped.
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,968
    Jones' currency is high at the moment.  The two recent wins have all but alleviated the risk of relegation.

    But I remain critical of his flexibility.  He has a method, which is fine when it works, but he will always resort to 'what he knows best'.  That's why we have a selection of ex-Luton players.

    I will take a punt.  I think he'll bring Kaminski back today.

    You can almost hear ... "Thomas is our No. 1.  Mannion has done well, but if Thomas is fit, he plays."

    I hope I'm wrong.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,076
    Don't see why we'd make a change at this point. Mannion has conceded one goal in three games and looked pretty steady in those performances. He's benefited from exceptional defensive displays but has backed the defenders with a good command of his area which is exactly what has been needed. When Mannion got injured last season AMB came in and despite not being a particularly good L1 keeper he kept his place because he didn't do anything to merit losing it until he got injured himself. I don't think Jones will rush Kaminski back unless Mannion gives him a reason to in the next couple of games
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,933
    ns9 said:
    mendonca said:
    He’s a funny one. There’s a calmness about him, but he never quite takes charge of his box, either with his voice or presence. He’ll pull off a couple of superb saves, then throw in something that makes him look like he’s only just started keeping.

    His kicking is similar in that it's either rushed/weak, or on the money to start the move for a goal like Derby away and Stoke at home.

    Just as he’d hit top form, helped by having actual wing backs in front of him, he made that awful error against Portsmouth. For someone with his experience, he’s a tricky one to summarise! 
    I would have a calmness about me if I was on a (reported) £20k a week…
    He not on 20 he on 14 same as we are paying for Coady 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,281
    Don't see why we'd make a change at this point. Mannion has conceded one goal in three games and looked pretty steady in those performances. He's benefited from exceptional defensive displays but has backed the defenders with a good command of his area which is exactly what has been needed. When Mannion got injured last season AMB came in and despite not being a particularly good L1 keeper he kept his place because he didn't do anything to merit losing it until he got injured himself. I don't think Jones will rush Kaminski back unless Mannion gives him a reason to in the next couple of games
    I think Mannion has contributed to those defensive displays. I would bet the team trust Mannion more than Kaminski, especially those that have played with him last season. 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,484
    ns9 said:
    mendonca said:
    He’s a funny one. There’s a calmness about him, but he never quite takes charge of his box, either with his voice or presence. He’ll pull off a couple of superb saves, then throw in something that makes him look like he’s only just started keeping.

    His kicking is similar in that it's either rushed/weak, or on the money to start the move for a goal like Derby away and Stoke at home.

    Just as he’d hit top form, helped by having actual wing backs in front of him, he made that awful error against Portsmouth. For someone with his experience, he’s a tricky one to summarise! 
    I would have a calmness about me if I was on a (reported) £20k a week…
    He not on 20 he on 14 same as we are paying for Coady 
    Don’t see a world where we’re paying 14k for Coady. He was always meant to be a squad player 
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,968
    Mannion continues.

    Well done, Nathan.
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 684
    Crucial touch to give Lloyd time to clear off line today at 1 nil
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,484
    Crucial touch to give Lloyd time to clear off line today at 1 nil
    His crap kick did give them the chance in the 1st place. Keeper wouldn’t have changed the outcome today