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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,974
    edited April 3
    Very blinkered there….yeah he’s decent but to say 23 other championship sides would take him off our hands is simply laughable 
    They 100% would. Not all of them would put him in their starting XI immediately but all of them would take a bet on him.

    Look at the jump Azeez has made for Millwall from the age of 22 to now, two years later and how much he’s now worth.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,353
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    You know we can sign better players right? Most teams in this league have wingers/strikers that are far more technical and productive/efficient than any of our forwards. 
    Ok let’s try and find a player that’s as good as TC is 1v1, one of the quickest players in the league and can run 12km a game and then also has end product. Good luck 


    Perhaps we sign some central midfielders and a left wing-back capable of covering the ground. Then we can get a striker with end product. 

    It's not impossible and the idea that we are stuck with TC up front/left wing or nobody is laughable. 

    Every one of the other 22 teams (other than Wednesday) have managed to just fine. 
    Yes we should be looking to do those things in midfield and at wing back. But we should also want to keep TC as part of this squad next season, you need a player in the squad that can do what he does and I can’t see it being easy at all to replace the attributes he has. Fans should be getting behind him and hoping we get him on a new contract,  instead we get morons abusing him every week 
    Calling fellow fans morons is not a good look.
    We get it that you think he's great  but plenty other fans think he's not. 
    We are all allowed our opinions. 
    If you chant fucking useless or other abuse at a young academy player then you are a moron. So yes, the fans abusing him are morons, surely that’s not a controversial view 
    I sit in the NW quadrant so I wasn't one of the upper North chanting. 
    But as far as I'm concerned they can sing whatever they want. 
    I wasn’t accusing you. But my comment was that the fans abusing him are morons and I stand by that. What good comes from abusing our own player? It’s moronic behaviour 
    He's the most marmite player at the club. 
    Some like your goodself think he's great. 
    Others think he's rubbish. 
    Personally I don't abuse any of our players during the match but if some fans do then that's up to them .
    I don’t think he’s great, I just think he’s good enough to be in our squad in the championship. Nathan Jones obviously agrees, so do the championship recruitment teams that have tried to sign him in the past. I’d suspect their view is probably better than anyone on here. Fans are often wrong, if most of our fans had got their way we’d still be in league 1 on the manager merry-go-round  
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,266
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    You know we can sign better players right? Most teams in this league have wingers/strikers that are far more technical and productive/efficient than any of our forwards. 
    Ok let’s try and find a player that’s as good as TC is 1v1, one of the quickest players in the league and can run 12km a game and then also has end product. Good luck 


    Perhaps we sign some central midfielders and a left wing-back capable of covering the ground. Then we can get a striker with end product. 

    It's not impossible and the idea that we are stuck with TC up front/left wing or nobody is laughable. 

    Every one of the other 22 teams (other than Wednesday) have managed to just fine. 
    Yes we should be looking to do those things in midfield and at wing back. But we should also want to keep TC as part of this squad next season, you need a player in the squad that can do what he does and I can’t see it being easy at all to replace the attributes he has. Fans should be getting behind him and hoping we get him on a new contract,  instead we get morons abusing him every week 
    Calling fellow fans morons is not a good look.
    We get it that you think he's great  but plenty other fans think he's not. 
    We are all allowed our opinions. 
    If you chant fucking useless or other abuse at a young academy player then you are a moron. So yes, the fans abusing him are morons, surely that’s not a controversial view 
    I sit in the NW quadrant so I wasn't one of the upper North chanting. 
    But as far as I'm concerned they can sing whatever they want. 
    I wasn’t accusing you. But my comment was that the fans abusing him are morons and I stand by that. What good comes from abusing our own player? It’s moronic behaviour 
    He's the most marmite player at the club. 
    Some like your goodself think he's great. 
    Others think he's rubbish. 
    Personally I don't abuse any of our players during the match but if some fans do then that's up to them .
    I don’t think he’s great, I just think he’s good enough to be in our squad in the championship. Nathan Jones obviously agrees, so do the championship recruitment teams that have tried to sign him in the past. I’d suspect their view is probably better than anyone on here. Fans are often wrong, if most of our fans had got their way we’d still be in league 1 on the manager merry-go-round  
    Fair enough 
    Let's leave it there  👍
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,370
    We should definitely keep him, he just shouldn’t start games and should be used as an impact sub 
  • ns9
    ns9 Posts: 39
    Purely hypothetical…how much is he worth? Or, to put it another way, what do you think the club would accept if someone came in for him? I normally think I’d have a realistic view on these scenarios, but in this case I genuinely wouldn’t have a clue. £5m?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,580
    If he’s still here in two years time we will still be having the same conversations, in my opinion. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,153
    We would be having these conversations less if we had an alternative to him who played in a similar way. If we had another quick player who ran at teams from the left and created problems then we would be able to switch them based on who was doing best and take the pressure off the individual. Wingers are always inconsistent but TC is simultaneously expected to provide everything and blamed when it doesn't happen. Obviously we want better players than this but a few seasons ago we had TC, CBT, Chuks, JRS, even Chem Campbell as players who could wizard a bit up, or be completely anonymous and get subbed for a player who might offer what they didn't. I think there would be a lot less stone throwing in TC's direction if we had an alternative to him and let there be a bit of competition and possibility of rest to allow periods of poor form to pass. We were crying out for this in January last year, it's annoying that it still hasn't been addressed
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,353
    We should definitely keep him, he just shouldn’t start games and should be used as an impact sub 
    That’s the ideal scenario we hopefully arrive at next season. But unfortunately this season we aren’t good enough to not need him to start most games 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,699
    Apart from that pathetic attempt he was a big threat when he came on , we offer next to nothing as a team going forward and TC worries the oppo , of course we’d realistically like better but that goes for most of our team for me .

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  • ArmchairAddick
    ArmchairAddick Posts: 581
    I thought yesterday he had a couple of "moments" but for the most part did what he was supposed to.  Kept the ball and got it into a position the majority of the time he received it.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,321
    So, it's alright for fans to chant whatever they want at one of our players but it's not alright for another fan to call said fans morons. (Even though the chances are that is exactly what they are.) That smacks of double standards.

    Campbell is a very good player and did okay yesterday for someone who had allegedly missed his flight home from the internationals, so the chances are he was fairly lagged.  All attacking players miss chances. Take Andy Cole at Man Utd:  he missed shed loads of easy chances yet still ended up as that team's 4th highest all-time goal scorer.
     
    To summarise, It is definitely moronic behaviour for the cockwombles in the North Upper is hurl abuse at him and Campbell is certainly a championship quality player.

    Ibid. Simon Francis, Morgan Fox.....
     
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,623
    There’s something very strange going on with quite a lot of our fans & TC. It’s almost as though they actively want him to fail and take pleasure when things don’t come off (like his admittedly dreadful shot yesterday). I cannot understand it. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,083
    edited April 4
    He's just come back from a game where he had a Premier League wing-back on toast, a game where Jamaica looked even more shit when he got replaced by someone involved at the top of the table in this same Division... and we've got others saying he's a League One player, and I imagine that we should take the first offer that comes our way this summer.
    Hmmm
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,580
    cafcfan said:
    So, it's alright for fans to chant whatever they want at one of our players but it's not alright for another fan to call said fans morons. (Even though the chances are that is exactly what they are.) That smacks of double standards.

    Campbell is a very good player and did okay yesterday for someone who had allegedly missed his flight home from the internationals, so the chances are he was fairly lagged.  All attacking players miss chances. Take Andy Cole at Man Utd:  he missed shed loads of easy chances yet still ended up as that team's 4th highest all-time goal scorer.
     
    To summarise, It is definitely moronic behaviour for the cockwombles in the North Upper is hurl abuse at him and Campbell is certainly a championship quality player.

    Ibid. Simon Francis, Morgan Fox.....
     
    How can he miss his flight home but Bell didn’t 🤔
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,202
    The treatment of TC from our fans is pathetic. He’s spent most of his life at this club, helped us get promotion back to the Championship and whilst probably not had the best season, has still probably been our only player who can run at a man and take them on. 

    I have someone who sits a couple of rows in front of me who will shout abuse everytime TC makes anything that resembles a slight mistake but is quiet whilst the rest of the team does. It sounds like we have fans all over the stadium doing similar. 

    We play a system that isn’t the best if your desired position is a winger and he’s been asked to play through the middle and at wing back throughout the season which has been a struggle. 

    He’s a good player and clearly struggled with confidence. To have our own fans chant fucking useless at him is a disgrace and I hope he finds himself a team next season that plays a system that better suits winger. 

    Why do we do this to our own players?

  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 269
    It's a very odd connection atm. I heard a 10 year old try to shout hello at him on the touchline, TC walked on as most players do and the kid shouted at him to stop being so miserable. 

    I didn't hear him say that to Knibbs, Macca, Godden who gave the same non reaction. 
  • cafcfan said:
    So, it's alright for fans to chant whatever they want at one of our players but it's not alright for another fan to call said fans morons. (Even though the chances are that is exactly what they are.) That smacks of double standards.

    Campbell is a very good player and did okay yesterday for someone who had allegedly missed his flight home from the internationals, so the chances are he was fairly lagged.  All attacking players miss chances. Take Andy Cole at Man Utd:  he missed shed loads of easy chances yet still ended up as that team's 4th highest all-time goal scorer.
     
    To summarise, It is definitely moronic behaviour for the cockwombles in the North Upper is hurl abuse at him and Campbell is certainly a championship quality player.

    Ibid. Simon Francis, Morgan Fox.....
     
    No he isn't.
    Don't agree with any abuse but that statement is bonkers.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,321
    cafcfan said:
    So, it's alright for fans to chant whatever they want at one of our players but it's not alright for another fan to call said fans morons. (Even though the chances are that is exactly what they are.) That smacks of double standards.

    Campbell is a very good player and did okay yesterday for someone who had allegedly missed his flight home from the internationals, so the chances are he was fairly lagged.  All attacking players miss chances. Take Andy Cole at Man Utd:  he missed shed loads of easy chances yet still ended up as that team's 4th highest all-time goal scorer.
     
    To summarise, It is definitely moronic behaviour for the cockwombles in the North Upper is hurl abuse at him and Campbell is certainly a championship quality player.

    Ibid. Simon Francis, Morgan Fox.....
     
    No he isn't.
    Don't agree with any abuse but that statement is bonkers.
    And there's the Dunning Kruger effect in action right there. 

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  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,905
    The two prolonged times I remember him causing the most problems are when he had Rak-Sakyi on the other side in one season and Thierry Small on the other side last season.

    When he has played this season, against better players, he’s been our only attacking threat so he’s consistently had two on him. 

    It was noticeable yesterday with Fullah and Fevrier on the other side he had more time and space and looked really threatening. 

    For me, for the rest of the season I’d play him off the bench and bring him on with Fullah each time. 
  • fenaddick said:
    The miss was poor but what I was most impressed with was that he didn’t get down about it like he might have in the past. He got his head down and kept beating his man. There was one lovely bit of link up with Fullah and he put in a couple of decent crosses. You could tell the defenders didn’t know how to handle him. If he had confidence and end product he’d be so dangerous 
    And therein lies the entire debate about TC.
    Everyone can see the potential and what could be, but many like me doubt that it can be coached into him. He is what he is. 
  • Very blinkered there….yeah he’s decent but to say 23 other championship sides would take him off our hands is simply laughable 
    They 100% would. Not all of them would put him in their starting XI immediately but all of them would take a bet on him.

    Look at the jump Azeez has made for Millwall from the age of 22 to now, two years later and how much he’s now worth.
    Azeez is twice the all round player that TC is and that is why he is worth a lot of money. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,671
    edited April 4
    Very blinkered there….yeah he’s decent but to say 23 other championship sides would take him off our hands is simply laughable 
    They 100% would. Not all of them would put him in their starting XI immediately but all of them would take a bet on him.

    Look at the jump Azeez has made for Millwall from the age of 22 to now, two years later and how much he’s now worth.
    Azeez is twice the all round player that TC is and that is why he is worth a lot of money. 
    Azeez is also 2 years older, 2 years ago at the same age he scored 8 goals in L1, similar to TC last season.

    Last season he scored 2 in the Championship, less than TC this season.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,974
    edited April 4
    Scoham said:
    Very blinkered there….yeah he’s decent but to say 23 other championship sides would take him off our hands is simply laughable 
    They 100% would. Not all of them would put him in their starting XI immediately but all of them would take a bet on him.

    Look at the jump Azeez has made for Millwall from the age of 22 to now, two years later and how much he’s now worth.
    Azeez is twice the all round player that TC is and that is why he is worth a lot of money. 
    Azeez is also 2 years older, 2 years ago at the same age he scored 8 goals in L1, similar to TC last season.

    Last season he scored 2 in the Championship, less than TC this season.
    Precisely the point. There’s at least 5-6 years until he reaches the peak of his abilities, should he follow the same trajectory that most professional footballers do.

    The fact he looks so dangerous in certain aspects of his play while lacking in others should be cause for excitement about what he could become in a couple of seasons.

    It’s not happening for him yet which is leaving quite a few impatient people frustrated.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,735
    Woeful attempt from Campbell and should have least hit the target with that chance late on. 

    Frustration was loud and clear from behind the goal with a fair few going overboard with their chanting afterwards 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,688
    It's pretty simple with TC for me. 

    We either need to move him on, or play a system with actual wingers to see the best out of him and let him play his game.

    I've said it hundreds of times, you put Tyreece in an attacking side, where other players can also be a threat, he will be less marked and have more freedom. 

    He is a victim of a very boring football system. I would personally like to see him stay if Jones can switch the system, if he can't, move him on which is best for both parties. 

    I do think we have reached a stage with TC where there are more people who defend him than actually moan about him, most people I know or happen to stand/sit near actually like him but accept he's frustrating.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,867
    edited April 4
    Said as we walked down Wembley way if any offers came in for him I think we should seriously consider them.
    No idea if they did, but as one of our most attacking threats in a successful season I'm sure there would have been?
    I  always felt he'd struggle to make the jump and I think that's probably right .
    Yes he's out most attacking outlet this season. The bar is pretty low, But he lacks quality on the ball and has poor intelligence off it.
    I'm sure with a few quid from his sale, and some shrewd recruitment we could have got a more refined attacking threat.

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 65,974
    About sums it up


  • Cafcmunich
    Cafcmunich Posts: 212
    cafcfan said:
    So, it's alright for fans to chant whatever they want at one of our players but it's not alright for another fan to call said fans morons. (Even though the chances are that is exactly what they are.) That smacks of double standards.

    Campbell is a very good player and did okay yesterday for someone who had allegedly missed his flight home from the internationals, so the chances are he was fairly lagged.  All attacking players miss chances. Take Andy Cole at Man Utd:  he missed shed loads of easy chances yet still ended up as that team's 4th highest all-time goal scorer.
     
    To summarise, It is definitely moronic behaviour for the cockwombles in the North Upper is hurl abuse at him and Campbell is certainly a championship quality player.

    Ibid. Simon Francis, Morgan Fox.....
     
    How can he miss his flight home but Bell didn’t 🤔
    Have you not read the whole thread? He is lazy!