Never been in the Jones out camp and I'm definitely still not, but that is a game where I really think he needs to shoulder a lot of the blame and it was disappointing he didn't cop to any of it in the post match.

For the line up they are fragile on the counter and against speed, and we drop our only pacey player in TC. Also no JRC when we need to break a team down. 

For approach, there was no effort or desire to play it on the ground today and it was embarrassing watching a Sheff Wed youth team play triangles around us and through balls when all we do is hump it long. Part of that might be down to the players feeling nervous on the ball, Jones said he'd put the pressure back on this week, but the fact that it didn't improve after the half makes it look much more like an intentional tactic. Lack of JRC, one of our only players who can pick a pass, backs that up.

That approach is so wrong in so many ways. We needed to be aggressive and try to take all the points. It's a rare occasion where we should have more footballing quality than the opposition and so don't need to be entirely negative to level the field. But more than anything, they have no depth and you're letting them off the hook of chasing the ball around. Their midfield and forwards can just stand still while their CBs head it away and mop up. We should have run rings around them until they were ragged.

Also no apparent orders to press, even after that produced one of our only decent chances in the first half. 

For the subs, too late is often a criticism but I can see why he does that sometimes when he's changed something and wants to give it a chance. But nothing seemed to change at HT when it badly needed to, he had to see that and change personnel well before he did. As for the subs themselves, Sichenje made a big difference and I don't argue with TC, though he was poor today, but JRC had to come earlier to break them down and how do we leave ourselves with no Godden, Dykes, Kelman, Knibbs or (right at the end) even Carey on the pitch when we need a goal? No one we had on the pitch at the end is convincing in the opposition box.

Few other thoughts:

- love Clarke as a character but I'm not with the majority who want him signed up - only ok defensively, played a terrible ball right to them to keep the pressure on eventually resulting in their goal, doesn't get quality into the box nearly enough and is honking in front of goal, costing us multiple points already

- Mannion surely has to come back out now

- don't understand what has happened to our identity generally. Start of the season it was high energy, aggressive press, winning all the second balls and box crashing. That all disappeared with the injuries and poor run, but why hasn't it returned ever since? 

twiggyaddick said:

The Red Robin said:

What was Lloyd Jones so angry about at the end? The fans for booing or his own teammates?

The booing, 100%.

That wasn't a good performance by the team, but most of them put effort in, particularly Lloyd Jones as he always does.

I can see why he would get pissed off with the booing, it's happening far too much lately. I know that it's always happened, but it must be demoralising to put your all in, get a point which is very helpful toward staying up, and your own fans slag you off.

The booing really doesn't help create a united front. I know that we all hoped for 3 points today, but please try to avoid the booing and save it for really deserving occasions. (If you have to boo).