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POST-MATCH THREAD: Sheffield Wednesday v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 18th April 2026: KO 15:00
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I'm still perplexed that Fev and Kelman didn't get a chance yesterday... As for Coventry not sure what's happening there. I wasn't impressed with Dykes yesterday and thought Leaburn wasn't the answer.
Who knows what Nathan is thinking but If Ramsay is out on Wednesday are we expecting Burke and Fev in front of him as Clarke can't play? Burke looks like an oil tanker turning in the sea!
To be hoping that Oxford lose on Tuesday and we then need a point is getting desperate alongside the Efl deducting points off WBA.
I know we all said that finishing 4th from bottom would be acceptable but the lack of fight, grit and determination lacking yesterday other than Godden, Jones and Bell was dreadful to watch and embarrassing.4 -
"A fine thrusting run from Sonny Carey ended with an excellent shot against the inside of the post but that was our last real threat on the home side’s goal."
I was waiting for the Blucher post as he gives a report on pubs and analysis of the match as opposed to letting me know if it was Human, dog or the winner this week, Horse Shit of a performance; no one came up with Elephant dung, perhaps that's still to come !
Before I saw the 2 minute 'highlights' I thought Carey had missed an open goal after reading one post that suggested that Carey should go to the Hague on war crimes !
Blimey O'Riley 🤦🏻♂️
IF the fine efforts from Matty 1st half and Sonny 2nd half had gone in then the rare mistake in the air by Mannion wouldn't have mattered and a celebration for reaching 52 points could've taken place. But alas in the Dystopian world of Charlton Athletic, the booing greeted the players, our POTY elect Lloyd got the hump and along with the absent RAMSAY have told their agents they are top championship players;
GET ME OUT OF HERE.
What a humongous pile of Elephant Shit.
(If you can't beat them, join them 🙎🏻♂️)
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I'm sure I am not the first to say it - life is bad enough without ploughing through eleven pages of (mostly justified) doom and gloom - but the worst thing is if we had won we could have gifted Ipswich the points on Wednesday with impunity.
I mean, it will probably happen anyway, but...2 -
We probably need a point from our last three although there is a good chance we have enough points already. That extra point would allow us to relax a bit though. It just pees me off how every other team in this league can clear a ball generally with a bit of purpose whilst we find opponents every time. It is like a panic mode!5
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I sat next to one guy in the West Stand in 2006 - he’d appeared that season and from listening to him week in week out I suspect he’d been a lifelong fan since our second promotion in 2000 - who loudly and endlessly told everyone how Curbs had taken us as far as he could and we needed a big name for our seemingly inevitable European adventures. That ended well and as for the fan, he disappeared around the time Dowie didSuedeAdidas said:
Not this again ffs.thickandthin63 said:Didnt see the game only Mannions cock up on highlights.Just a thought,some people saying Jones has taken us a s far as he can,and should be replaced.Seem to remember some people said the same about Curbishley when we finished 7th in the premier league.Be careful what you wish for.I may be in the minority but I personally did not know one fan who wanted Curbs to go.5 -
I watched on the TV yesterday. I Think the effort made by our travellers , given the train disruption was heroic. (Have been there myself over the years). I would have given 10yr of my life to have played for this club, so when I see players aimlessly wandering about and trotting out from defence when we need to clear our lines. Or a player who can't make a 10yd pass without it being intercepted, or getting caught in possession it makes my blood boil.
Think some (Not all) of the squad couldn't care less if we stay up or go down . There is always another club around the corner, or academy graduates who seem to think they should be in a Premier League squad.
If we somehow stay up I think we will be odds on to go down next season. I hate that we are limping across the line and teams below us are only below us because of points deductions.
Still I will continue to support the club, because that is what I have done since I was 8 years old. Next season is my 60th following Charlton.
Players come players go, managers come managers go. Supporters are supporters all the days of their life.
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Fev can not defend, Kelman is not physical enough for our teams slow poor build up play.peterreeves said:I'm still perplexed that Fev and Kelman didn't get a chance yesterday... As for Coventry not sure what's happening there. I wasn't impressed with Dykes yesterday and thought Leaburn wasn't the answer.
Who knows what Nathan is thinking but If Ramsay is out on Wednesday are we expecting Burke and Fev in front of him as Clarke can't play? Burke looks like an oil tanker turning in the sea!
To be hoping that Oxford lose on Tuesday and we then need a point is getting desperate alongside the Efl deducting points off WBA.
I know we all said that finishing 4th from bottom would be acceptable but the lack of fight, grit and determination lacking yesterday other than Godden, Jones and Bell was dreadful to watch and embarrassing.3 -
Didn't go yesterday and have only just watched the highlight reel. I was 'watching' the score live online and was absolutely gutted when their goal popped up on the feed, then I spent the next 15 minutes hoping, hoping for our 2nd goal to pop up and the 7 minutes or so of extra time hoping, hoping for the final score to be 1-1.
I can understand the booing, we've had several games now hoping and expecting us to 'easily' reach the safety zone...... too many where it's been not such great football and where it's been, ok next time then! When you're that disappointed what you really want to do is to have a conversation with the players and to understand what they're feeling and thinking...... and of course that's not feasible....... so, yes, I can understand some folks express their absolute disappointment by booing at a time when the disappointment is so raw.
Anyway, how the heck did Matty Godden 'see' that little bit of the goal to slot the ball into...... again!
And maybe........ stretching for a positive here....... avoiding the drop by only a few points rather than a fair few points may encourage the club to stretch the budget a bit more than they otherwise would.......making the last few results and performances a bit more palatable........?3 -
Not sour grapes and I haven't seen it as I don't subscribe, but why can't the club have such great material on their socials.......?fenlandaddick said:some great material on Rich Cawley's substack from NJ post match. Well worth the money0 -
Because it isn't the club media's job to ask challenging questions, it is Rich's jobWrightCharlie said:
Not sour grapes and I haven't seen it as I don't subscribe, but why can't the club have such great material on their socials.......?fenlandaddick said:some great material on Rich Cawley's substack from NJ post match. Well worth the money3 -
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Players should absolutely be booed after lifeless performances. They are paid good money and the least they can do is turn up.Croydon said:Good to see we've got fans who weren't there telling fans who were how they should react at the final whistle.
If you're just following the score on your phone or watching from your sofa, you just aren't as emotionally invested as someone who's spent hours of their time and hundreds of pounds to be there in the flesh.
Sorry if that touches some nerves, but it's true.
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One comment only ...again...too tired & frustrated to share more after yesterday's trip.
Can't understand why ANYONE on here is predicting failure next season !
Only ONE thing we should be discussing & stressing about at this moment in time.
Championship survival following the final 3 matches of THIS season.14 -
Agree about the Carey chance. From what has been said elsewhere I thought he’d knocked an absolute sitter against the post but it was nothing like that at all.soapboxsam said:"A fine thrusting run from Sonny Carey ended with an excellent shot against the inside of the post but that was our last real threat on the home side’s goal."
I was waiting for the Blucher post as he gives a report on pubs and analysis of the match as opposed to letting me know if it was Human, dog or the winner this week, Horse Shit of a performance; no one came up with Elephant dung, perhaps that's still to come !
Before I saw the 2 minute 'highlights' I thought Carey had missed an open goal after reading one post that suggested that Carey should go to the Hague on war crimes !
Blimey O'Riley 🤦🏻♂️
IF the fine efforts from Matty 1st half and Sonny 2nd half had gone in then the rare mistake in the air by Mannion wouldn't have mattered and a celebration for reaching 52 points could've taken place. But alas in the Dystopian world of Charlton Athletic, the booing greeted the players, our POTY elect Lloyd got the hump and along with the absent RAMSAY have told their agents they are top championship players;
GET ME OUT OF HERE.
What a humongous pile of Elephant Shit.
(If you can't beat them, join them 🙎🏻♂️)1 -
I don't know what other kind of football we could play with this squad. They can't pass it five yards. There's very little pace. Our midfielders are demonstrably the worst in the league. I take some comfort in the fact NJ seems to know how much work this team needs.jimmymelrose said:
In my opinion it’s the manager, not the players. His football is so dire I’m surprised anybody goes.thenewbie said:
Effort? A bit of fight? Even the slightest sense that they know and understand that a win would essentially rubber stamp safety?jimmymelrose said:
What I don’t understand is what the fans who travelled up there are expecting. We play crap football and we never score more than one goal. Why go if you don’t accept that? I wouldn’t bloody go even if I could, and there’s nothing wrong with that when you really consider that the team would be better off with no fans there rather than being booed.TellyTubby said:
That wasn't a good performance by the team, but most of them put effort in, particularly Lloyd Jones as he always does.twiggyaddick said:
The booing, 100%.The Red Robin said:What was Lloyd Jones so angry about at the end? The fans for booing or his own teammates?
I can see why he would get pissed off with the booing, it's happening far too much lately. I know that it's always happened, but it must be demoralising to put your all in, get a point which is very helpful toward staying up, and your own fans slag you off.
The booing really doesn't help create a united front. I know that we all hoped for 3 points today, but please try to avoid the booing and save it for really deserving occasions. (If you have to boo).
Some people on here on every pre-match thread predict us to win 3-0, 2-1, 3-1. I don’t get it. Do they wake up each morning expecting to find their favourite actress in bed with them, or expecting to find a million quid under the teapot?
Early in the season we played crap football but compensated with lots of pressing and energy, stopping the other team playing either. That's become what we see now with a total lack of enthusiasm or spirit and apparently hoping to just hold on in a siege mentality (against a team with a literally negative point total.)
If there really is such a lack of fight, why is this? Do players already know they won’t be with us next year? Were they told six weeks ago that we’d already avoided relegation and so we can just leisurely see games out? Is yet another player in the NJ doghouse, this time Coventry, and some players are not happy about it?
It’s the manager I don’t trust or have confidence in, not the players.His football has limited us to fight and hard work and when players can’t reach those heights we have nothing left to offer.2 -
I think the tail end of the season suggests that if we stay up, then tweaking or building on the ‘style’ we have created is not going to cut it next season.
Now if we stay up then it has to be acknowledged that the achievement of Nathan Jones in terms of points won and league progress since his appointment has been on the excellent side of very good. Sacking or removing Jones can’t happen in that context.
However if the set up at Charlton especially compared to the majority of championship clubs is supposed to keep us up next season we’re in for bitter disappointment. Nathan Jones talks of evolution, but he strikes me as intelligent enough to recognise that currently what we have and what we do is nowhere near good enough. We need a bit of a leap forward, not a slow burn.
The difficult second season (if we survive) is going to have to be approached with quite a clear out, and a vast improvement in terms of recruitment or promotion of academy players, or we suffer like Oxford are suffering.
The good news is that we have signed a player of the calibre of Collins, so there might well be within the ranks of our staff people who can recruit well.
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Well anyone worried about relegation this season is a bedwetter apparently Fanny and we were safe weeks ago.Fanny Fanackapan said:One comment only ...again...too tired & frustrated to share more after yesterday's trip.
Can't understand why ANYONE on here is predicting failure next season !
Only ONE thing we should be discussing & stressing about at this moment in time.
Championship survival following the final 3 matches of THIS season.3 -
Don’t know why this gets Lols, pretty accurate imoRonnieMoore said:
We played a way to stay up .. nothing more nothing less if we had tired to attack this league we would be relegated … our clean sheet record is excellent our away form (7 unbeaten ) is superb …… we could not come into this league thinking we could match anyone cause we could not that’s why all the predications had us finishing bottom fact is we not been in the bottom 3 at all and now we we are 99.9% safe .. NJ as already said we will be more positive especially at home next season and our recruitment will show this …fans need a reality check and quickly our aim was 4th from bottom at all costs ….this is our biggest archivement in our history staying in a league that is so financially unfair and unbalancedMacronate said:Since 21st October when we beat Ipswich, we’ve scored more than 1 goal twice and in one of those Leicester had a red card after 15 minutes.
That is genuinely pathetic.
I was 💯 for Jones’s appointment and remain behind him because it seems that we will stay up. But that stat above is not sustainable or acceptable.1 -
I think that's Godden's greatest gift. He seems to always know where the goal is without having to look up. Whether he has magnificent peripheral vision or tremendous geo-positional memory I don't know, but I suspect quite possibly both. With any other player you'd be screaming at them to look when they're shooting so that there's a chance they might get it on target. With Godden it's a case of, well done lad - by not wasting time looking up you saved yourself half a second to get your shot away so no defender had time to intercept or block it. The other thing where he's head and shoulders above everyone on our team, and most of the opposition we come up against, is his ability to get a foot onto a seemingly lost ball and flick it somewhere useful, not just clog it away from the opposition, but to genuinely put it in an attacking position. Whatever happens and the end of this season, I hope we can keep hold of him and perhaps recruit some team mates for him with that sort of talent.WrightCharlie said:Didn't go yesterday and have only just watched the highlight reel. I was 'watching' the score live online and was absolutely gutted when their goal popped up on the feed, then I spent the next 15 minutes hoping, hoping for our 2nd goal to pop up and the 7 minutes or so of extra time hoping, hoping for the final score to be 1-1.
I can understand the booing, we've had several games now hoping and expecting us to 'easily' reach the safety zone...... too many where it's been not such great football and where it's been, ok next time then! When you're that disappointed what you really want to do is to have a conversation with the players and to understand what they're feeling and thinking...... and of course that's not feasible....... so, yes, I can understand some folks express their absolute disappointment by booing at a time when the disappointment is so raw.
Anyway, how the heck did Matty Godden 'see' that little bit of the goal to slot the ball into...... again!
And maybe........ stretching for a positive here....... avoiding the drop by only a few points rather than a fair few points may encourage the club to stretch the budget a bit more than they otherwise would.......making the last few results and performances a bit more palatable........?13 -
I remember Killer saying that exact quote years ago, and never a truer word spoken...usetobunkin said:I watched on the TV yesterday. I Think the effort made by our travellers , given the train disruption was heroic. (Have been there myself over the years). I would have given 10yr of my life to have played for this club, so when I see players aimlessly wandering about and trotting out from defence when we need to clear our lines. Or a player who can't make a 10yd pass without it being intercepted, or getting caught in possession it makes my blood boil.
Think some (Not all) of the squad couldn't care less if we stay up or go down . There is always another club around the corner, or academy graduates who seem to think they should be in a Premier League squad.
If we somehow stay up I think we will be odds on to go down next season. I hate that we are limping across the line and teams below us are only below us because of points deductions.
Still I will continue to support the club, because that is what I have done since I was 8 years old. Next season is my 60th following Charlton.
Players come players go, managers come managers go. Supporters are supporters all the days of their life.2 -
I don’t believe that at all.Chunes said:
I don't know what other kind of football we could play with this squad. They can't pass it five yards. There's very little pace. Our midfielders are demonstrably the worst in the league. I take some comfort in the fact NJ seems to know how much work this team needs.jimmymelrose said:
In my opinion it’s the manager, not the players. His football is so dire I’m surprised anybody goes.thenewbie said:
Effort? A bit of fight? Even the slightest sense that they know and understand that a win would essentially rubber stamp safety?jimmymelrose said:
What I don’t understand is what the fans who travelled up there are expecting. We play crap football and we never score more than one goal. Why go if you don’t accept that? I wouldn’t bloody go even if I could, and there’s nothing wrong with that when you really consider that the team would be better off with no fans there rather than being booed.TellyTubby said:
That wasn't a good performance by the team, but most of them put effort in, particularly Lloyd Jones as he always does.twiggyaddick said:
The booing, 100%.The Red Robin said:What was Lloyd Jones so angry about at the end? The fans for booing or his own teammates?
I can see why he would get pissed off with the booing, it's happening far too much lately. I know that it's always happened, but it must be demoralising to put your all in, get a point which is very helpful toward staying up, and your own fans slag you off.
The booing really doesn't help create a united front. I know that we all hoped for 3 points today, but please try to avoid the booing and save it for really deserving occasions. (If you have to boo).
Some people on here on every pre-match thread predict us to win 3-0, 2-1, 3-1. I don’t get it. Do they wake up each morning expecting to find their favourite actress in bed with them, or expecting to find a million quid under the teapot?
Early in the season we played crap football but compensated with lots of pressing and energy, stopping the other team playing either. That's become what we see now with a total lack of enthusiasm or spirit and apparently hoping to just hold on in a siege mentality (against a team with a literally negative point total.)
If there really is such a lack of fight, why is this? Do players already know they won’t be with us next year? Were they told six weeks ago that we’d already avoided relegation and so we can just leisurely see games out? Is yet another player in the NJ doghouse, this time Coventry, and some players are not happy about it?
It’s the manager I don’t trust or have confidence in, not the players.His football has limited us to fight and hard work and when players can’t reach those heights we have nothing left to offer.
They don’t appear to be able to do it because they don’t practise it together in training. With the right coaching they could go back to doing it again.1 -
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Oh, one more piece of Fanny advice.Fanny Fanackapan said:One comment only ...again...too tired & frustrated to share more after yesterday's trip.
Can't understand why ANYONE on here is predicting failure next season !
Only ONE thing we should be discussing & stressing about at this moment in time.
Championship survival following the final 3 matches of THIS season.
For those of a nervous dispositiion.
Turn off Sky Sports NOW
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This could be applied to many teams nowadays. Leicester and Spurs this season spring to mind.usetobunkin said:I
Think some (Not all) of the squad couldn't care less if we stay up or go down . There is always another club around the corner, or academy graduates who seem to think they should be in a Premier League squad.
Wouldn’t it be nice to introduce a transfer rule preventing players from moving to a division above that they were relegated into the previous season?😉0 -
Looks like we will have to sell Leaburn for the mega millions some believed he was worth, and rebuild the squad. Only one problem isn’t there ? I don’t think Maidstone or Ebbsfleet have that kind of money…..7
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Not sure I get your meaning. Are you saying they can't pass five yards because they don't practice it in training?jimmymelrose said:
I don’t believe that at all.Chunes said:
I don't know what other kind of football we could play with this squad. They can't pass it five yards. There's very little pace. Our midfielders are demonstrably the worst in the league. I take some comfort in the fact NJ seems to know how much work this team needs.jimmymelrose said:
In my opinion it’s the manager, not the players. His football is so dire I’m surprised anybody goes.thenewbie said:
Effort? A bit of fight? Even the slightest sense that they know and understand that a win would essentially rubber stamp safety?jimmymelrose said:
What I don’t understand is what the fans who travelled up there are expecting. We play crap football and we never score more than one goal. Why go if you don’t accept that? I wouldn’t bloody go even if I could, and there’s nothing wrong with that when you really consider that the team would be better off with no fans there rather than being booed.TellyTubby said:
That wasn't a good performance by the team, but most of them put effort in, particularly Lloyd Jones as he always does.twiggyaddick said:
The booing, 100%.The Red Robin said:What was Lloyd Jones so angry about at the end? The fans for booing or his own teammates?
I can see why he would get pissed off with the booing, it's happening far too much lately. I know that it's always happened, but it must be demoralising to put your all in, get a point which is very helpful toward staying up, and your own fans slag you off.
The booing really doesn't help create a united front. I know that we all hoped for 3 points today, but please try to avoid the booing and save it for really deserving occasions. (If you have to boo).
Some people on here on every pre-match thread predict us to win 3-0, 2-1, 3-1. I don’t get it. Do they wake up each morning expecting to find their favourite actress in bed with them, or expecting to find a million quid under the teapot?
Early in the season we played crap football but compensated with lots of pressing and energy, stopping the other team playing either. That's become what we see now with a total lack of enthusiasm or spirit and apparently hoping to just hold on in a siege mentality (against a team with a literally negative point total.)
If there really is such a lack of fight, why is this? Do players already know they won’t be with us next year? Were they told six weeks ago that we’d already avoided relegation and so we can just leisurely see games out? Is yet another player in the NJ doghouse, this time Coventry, and some players are not happy about it?
It’s the manager I don’t trust or have confidence in, not the players.His football has limited us to fight and hard work and when players can’t reach those heights we have nothing left to offer.
They don’t appear to be able to do it because they don’t practise it together in training. With the right coaching they could go back to doing it again.
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Agree with everything said here. I've thought for the last month that a different manager would get a bit more out of our existing squad, and set the team up to play in a way that is more encouraging to watch. My assumption is that we'll stay up. I also assume that "the owners" (whichever investors they are) will not put over much £££ into the side. I'm open about Jones. Yes, he got us promoted and kept us up (I hope) but someone else might do a bit better with our admittedly slender resources.
As for the game, well we hit the bar, hit the post and scored. They had a penalty turned down. Fair result might have been Sheff W 2 Charlton A 3. The fact that we didn't get to that, and don't seem able to, comes down to how Jones sets up the side IMO.2 -
Like I said, I wasn't aware of the content, just wondering if the club could reach for more varied and interesting stuff....... without the need to challenge anyone......fenaddick said:
Because it isn't the club media's job to ask challenging questions, it is Rich's jobWrightCharlie said:
Not sour grapes and I haven't seen it as I don't subscribe, but why can't the club have such great material on their socials.......?fenlandaddick said:some great material on Rich Cawley's substack from NJ post match. Well worth the money0 -
If you had written it Danny, it would have got lots of likes, unfortunately on here the lols and likes depend on the poster, not the actual opinion.shame really.Danny Addick said:
Don’t know why this gets Lols, pretty accurate imoRonnieMoore said:
We played a way to stay up .. nothing more nothing less if we had tired to attack this league we would be relegated … our clean sheet record is excellent our away form (7 unbeaten ) is superb …… we could not come into this league thinking we could match anyone cause we could not that’s why all the predications had us finishing bottom fact is we not been in the bottom 3 at all and now we we are 99.9% safe .. NJ as already said we will be more positive especially at home next season and our recruitment will show this …fans need a reality check and quickly our aim was 4th from bottom at all costs ….this is our biggest archivement in our history staying in a league that is so financially unfair and unbalancedMacronate said:Since 21st October when we beat Ipswich, we’ve scored more than 1 goal twice and in one of those Leicester had a red card after 15 minutes.
That is genuinely pathetic.
I was 💯 for Jones’s appointment and remain behind him because it seems that we will stay up. But that stat above is not sustainable or acceptable.0 -
We will be back !
Dont know where ...dont know when !
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Gave myself some time to cool off before posting this.
Honestly, it was a poor performance all over the pitch — we looked disinterested, flat, and at times completely out of ideas.The substitutions frustrated me. When we went 1-0 up, TC should have come on to stretch the game and kill it off. Instead we sat back, invited pressure, and got exactly what we deserved. Albeit TC did look totally off it for his cameo, personally think he is the sort of player that needs to settle into a game. Coming on at 80mins is pointless.I also think the disrespect towards Sheffield Wednesday on here is unwarranted. They drew with Coventry last week and have been a tough nut to crack all season — credit where it’s due.But let’s all just take a breath. Oxford need 7 points from their last 9, which I don’t think they’ll manage. And I can see us picking up 1-2 points in our remaining games, which should be enough to see us safe.The football has been dross and most of this squad look League One at best — but we will be watching Championship football next season. I’ll watch crap football all season if it means another year in the championship5 -
I still think there’s a massive amount of complacency here, on and off the pitch.We have just played atrociously in our most important game of the season against a team on minus 4 points. Without deductions, they would have 14 points - easily the worst ever at the level. We were so bad yesterday and looked so flat.Happy to be proven wrong, but I see Oxford gaining a minimum of 4 points from their next two home games. I currently see us picking up 0 so I would be very surprised to not see it go to the final day, where we have a very awkward fixture. Oxford away at Millwall on the final day…what could possibly go wrong?4
