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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Ipswich Town: Wednesday 22nd April 2026: KO 19:45
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superclive98 said:
Course you did.Big C said:DamoNorthStand said:
We were 66-1 a few weeks ago which seemed massive odds at the time000__Jaaaaay__000 said:Anyone able to find a bookies offering relegation odds and what we are ? Struggling
We were 150/1 briefly at one point (think it was after Boro or Oxford). Thankfully I stuck a tenner on it. Wish I'd gone bigger now!
Yes, I did, as I said I did - weirdo...1 -
I'm not going to complain about the performance. I thought we played better tonight than most games I've seen in a while. TBH, I never expected to get much from this one, with the gulf in resources between the two sides. Everyone tried hard tonight and we might have got something had tiredness and injuries not taken their tolls. What I think is a far bigger loss than the three points is the three injuries. I hope Bell, Campbell and Godden are OK and back in the first team soon, but I fear that they could all be out for the next two matches and that could cost us more than just the three points tonight.18
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Thought atmosphere in home ends was poor again8
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Well, no one can accuse this side of making things easy for themselves. Despite healthy points leads over Portsmouth, West Brom and Blackburn last month, 4 consecutive home defeats now just leave us and Oxford in line for that third relegation slot (whatever punishment the EFL now impose on West Brom, it will surely not relegate them). Each of those fellow strugglers have found something that has proved quite beyond us.
I thought we played pretty well in the first half, although there was (as ever) too much long ball. The team showed a lot of fight, with Fevrier, Sichenje, and the Doc particularly to the fore. For all that, Ipswich’s constant possession deep in our half carried a threat and when Furlong was given too much time and space outside our penalty area, he rifled home a fine equaliser.
I thought that Ipswich came out with real zest at the start of the second half and penned us back. After a concerted spell of pressure, Gillesphey (whose lack of pace is always a risk) needlessly pulled back Furlong in the box and the resulting penalty squirmed under Kaminski. We resorted to our usual long ball/load the box routine as the game wore on but, as in all our recent home games, it yielded nothing. Indeed, we didn’t create a single chance or force their keeper into a save in that in second half.
Whereas Ipswich were able to pass the ball comfortably deep into our half, we repeatedly hoisted long balls forward and into the box, hoping for a lucky break, which never came.
There were some good performances - Fevrier (up against a £20million winger), Docherty and Sichenje - but some poor ones, including Rankin-Costello and, especially Kelman, who was a passenger until he was withdrawn.
Let’s hope the injuries aren’t too bad and we don’t have to rely upon Millwall in the last game of the season against Oxford. All we need to do is to stop the run of defeats against Hull - surely that’s not too much to ask.
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playing us at the moment is like being savaged by a dead sheeppaulsturgess said:everyone else taking care of themselves... west brom fought their way out pompey fought their way out bburn fought their way out
us lying in the gutter hoping an ambulance turns up before we stop breathing
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Wrote a very NJ-critical post after the SW game but don't think he got much wrong here. Went for a line-up of defensive solidity with pace and threat on the counter. Included JRC to pick some passes at the expense of out-of-form Carey and brought Kam back in after Mannion has cost us three points in as many games.
Only question mark for me was around Bell at LWB - I guess he wanted the defensive experience and we have seen Chambers caught out at times. Was a gamble but it didn't pay off and it felt a bit predictable he'd go down with an injury.
He obviously set us up to press hard and be aggressive on the counter, as others have said I thought it was reminiscent of our early season performances and it paid off quickly.
TC going off injured absolutely killed us, we looked so much worse and just couldn't get out of our own half. Gillesphey's decision making for the pen is beyond ridiculous. So so stupid. And then so so savable.
Once again we turn up against the tough teams after several weak performances against far more beatable opposition. So frustrating when a showing like that surely would have got us over the line against Bristol City, Preston or Sheff Wed.
Our destiny is still in our hands, but it does seem to be slipping through our fingers.4 -
Oh and the keeper debate. Half the fan base thinks Kaminski is shit, half think Mannion is shit. Isn't it nice that we can all be right for a change?18
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We spent a boatload on Apter who played (naturally) out wide. Where is he? Ah yeah, after 4 months playing out of position with Jones he's now out on loan. Jones' fault. Any why do you keep protecting him? He's the manager, some decisions are appalling, he looks out of his depth and yet, for you, he walks on water. The buck stops with him.ForeverAddickted said:sammy391 said:Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…
NJ at fault.
extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet againSo what were the correct Substitutions...Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?4 -
That Cuban bloke randomly punching the ball against Wrexham to give away a pen was another one. But hey, we’ll have a whole summer to mull over the moments that got us relegated - look forward to the fun!Rossman92 said:I cannot get Mannion’s Howlers, Gillesphey’s Briandead arm pull, or Kaminski’s pathetic excuse of a penalty save out of my mind. If any of those things don’t happen, we probably have at least 1 more point. And that’s all we need
Fine margins, too many stupid personal mistakes4 -
It’s embarrassing for us to have been in the position we were in to now. Said it weeks ago we were sleepwalking to relegation.I’ve got no faith in this squad whatsoever, Oxford have a far greater chance of pulling this out the bag than we do getting another point.We were in such a strong position after the Boro game. Look at us now.Whatever happens I don’t want to see many of these players in a Charlton shirt again2
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The ref clearly had the premier league memo as to who they’d prefer to go up - all of the officials were absolutely shocking
don’t actually think we played that badly, they are just a cut above us.
Doc was absolutely immense and the injuries cost us dearly (let’s hope not too much!)
why Bell wasn’t in the back 3 and chambers LWB who knows.
thanks for the memories Gilly but please never again……..oh wait, we’ll see him Saturday now 🤦♂️2 -
That was a tough night. The biggest damage was the three injuries, none of which looked light.
But some of the criticism on here is horrendous. They had players valued higher than our starting eleven ffs.
We started well and the lead was deserved, but Ipswich clawed their way back into the game, and the second half they dominated up to the daft penalty.
After that we tried hard to fashion an opening but they basically held us at arms length, and always looked a threat on the break. The last ten minutes we were essentially down to ten men, and despite our heroic efforts, the passing grew sloppy and we never really troubled them.
So we need a point saturday. I get the frustration but last night wasn't the problem. Three points from Bristol, Preston, Watford, Wednesday and Oxford is the problem.
We need to get behind the team Saturday16 -
Losing Bell was/is disastrous imo.
One of our few genuine Championship players, he brings balance and poise to the left that just cannot be replicated within the squad.18 -
I'm desperately trying to find an Iranian flag now to put on my profile, ultra will have a melt down.shine166 said:
Quite what my profile pic has to do with anything I don't know, if a Palestine flag gets your back up then you have issues way beyond opinions on football.NorthStandUltra said:
Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about.shine166 said:NorthStandUltra said:Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day.The Kenyan is appalling BTW
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼1 -
Watching as neutrals, but who were all rooting for Charlton in our house, we all agreed he was poor last night. Only one game we’ve seen him play in though.Croydon said:
I like him but Ipswich fans on the train back highlighted him as being awful tonightDazzler21 said:
I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe.NorthStandUltra said:
Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about.shine166 said:NorthStandUltra said:Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day.The Kenyan is appalling BTW
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼0 -
Hardly bloody surprising was it…🤦panther10 said:Thought atmosphere in home ends was poor again1 -
He was marking arguably Ipswich's best player on the night, Philogene. For me, Mcateer and Philogene, were the difference.MillwallFan said:
Watching as neutrals, but who were all rooting for Charlton in our house, we all agreed he was poor last night. Only one game we’ve seen him play in though.Croydon said:
I like him but Ipswich fans on the train back highlighted him as being awful tonightDazzler21 said:
I don't think he's as good as many suggest, but he's certainly not appalling. Average maybe.NorthStandUltra said:
Seriously!?! 😂😂 Convince me I’m wrong about Collins, I assume it’s the Kenyan comment you’re on about.shine166 said:NorthStandUltra said:Are we still saying keep the faith? Still confident but it’s never easy is it - don’t like the thought of potentially relying on a Millwall result on the final day.The Kenyan is appalling BTW
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.He wasn’t great tonight & I’ve not been convinced other than his debut, I’m allowed my opinion like you’re allowed a Palestine flag on your profile picture 👍🏼2 -
Jones bringing Dykes on killed us last night - pace in behind caused them trouble, and helped us get up the pitch, bring Dykes, forced us to go long in to him, and the CB gobbled them up.. Not having another option with big of pace or x factor cost us I think. All of the subs was same for same..
Fuller or even Dixon, to give us something different is key!
I am starting to become annoyed with Jones now, and the way he set's us up. We have no plan B, and we just lump the call forward, and that is down to the way we are being set-up!14 -
We have to lose both games (entirely possible) and oxford have to win both games, something they've only done once this season (two back to back wins). For me the odds are in our favour especially as they go to Millwall who as horrible as it is are one of the more impressive teams in the league. That we are in this position is a shambles from where we were but let's get the job done by 2.15 on Saturday before Oxford have even kicked a ball! Hull are out of form, one win in six and that was against Wednesday. Lloyd Jones needs to be on his a game against McBurnie and I'd get Coady in the DM role to man mark Gelhardt6
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Jones hasn’t had a Plan B all season. After a bright start last night we resorted to the tired hoof and hope tactics that have failed us week in, week out. In his defence he’s working with a League 1 squad with a handful of exceptionsDubaiCAFC said:Jones bringing Dykes on killed us last night - pace in behind caused them trouble, and helped us get up the pitch, bring Dykes, forced us to go long in to him, and the CB gobbled them up.. Not having another option with big of pace or x factor cost us I think. All of the subs was same for same..
Fuller or even Dixon, to give us something different is key!
I am starting to become annoyed with Jones now, and the way he set's us up. We have no plan B, and we just lump the call forward, and that is down to the way we are being set-up!
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We need to get something out of the Hull game which will be hard without Bell , Godden and Campbell . But we have a big squad - although not a good one . Please don’t let us have JRC near the squad - like playing with 10 men - no engine , no pace and can’t tackle . Why we did not put him out on loan , I have no idea.
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Up until now I never really believed we would go down.
But we are currently just about the most out of form side in the division.
One by one our rivals are overtaking us.
First WBA
Then Pompey
Last night Blackburn
If we lose Saturday and Oxford beat Sheff Wed it will all go down to the last day of the season
Absolutely anything can happen then.8 -
Any other manger apart from NJones would have been given the sack the way Charlton have played. 5 losses out of last 6 homes games is relegation form. With 8 games to go we were on 48 pts. 6 games later we are on 50pts. Simply dismal and not good enough. If Charlton do get relegated which looks possible he will be off. Too many league 1 players. Financially it will be a massive hit season ticket sales will plummet and attendances will fall dramatically. Fear for the club if we are relegated. Owners won’t put the money in that’s for sure.5
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Has anyone ever read a book,or seen a film,then half way through,"I think I have been here before"
Our last Championship season,Away to Brentford,1-0 up give a goal away,and then concede a late penalty,Last day of the season,we are losing at Leeds,Barnsley in bottom 3,we are 4th from bottom,Barnsley away to high flying Brentford,last minute winner,puts us down.For Barnsley and Brentford,read Oxford Millwall.
We just cannot stop these stupid totally avoidable errors,there was no reason to give that penalty away,and Kaminsky should have stopped it.I thought we played as well as could be expected against a very good side,cant fault tactics.
Shout out for Doc,took a lot of stick this year,but when your in the shit,you want this man in your team.Watched Hull v Leicester,Hull look very open,we can certainly beat them on saturday.12 -
Said what I’ve been thinking for ages. Defending isn’t enough and that’s all he knows.WasCharleyOne said:
We spent a boatload on Apter who played (naturally) out wide. Where is he? Ah yeah, after 4 months playing out of position with Jones he's now out on loan. Jones' fault. Any why do you keep protecting him? He's the manager, some decisions are appalling, he looks out of his depth and yet, for you, he walks on water. The buck stops with him.ForeverAddickted said:sammy391 said:Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…
NJ at fault.
extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet againSo what were the correct Substitutions...Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?3 -
Agreed. Not much to add that hasnt already been written. We've got ourselves to blame for getting into this and we've got to find it in ourselves to get that single point needed. The officials last night were beyond bad,almost to the point that gets you thinking theres some sort of agenda. They walked off to a resounding level of justified abuse and that plank ref had a broad grin on his face,job done. Useless c##t.Elthamaddick said:The ref clearly had the premier league memo as to who they’d prefer to go up - all of the officials were absolutely shocking
don’t actually think we played that badly, they are just a cut above us.
Doc was absolutely immense and the injuries cost us dearly (let’s hope not too much!)
why Bell wasn’t in the back 3 and chambers LWB who knows.
thanks for the memories Gilly but please never again……..oh wait, we’ll see him Saturday now 🤦♂️1 -
There's no shame in losing to Ipswich but people are frustrated that we're in a position that we needed to get a result against them. Survival should have been sealed by nowken_shabby said:That was a tough night. The biggest damage was the three injuries, none of which looked light.
But some of the criticism on here is horrendous. They had players valued higher than our starting eleven ffs.
We started well and the lead was deserved, but Ipswich clawed their way back into the game, and the second half they dominated up to the daft penalty.
After that we tried hard to fashion an opening but they basically held us at arms length, and always looked a threat on the break. The last ten minutes we were essentially down to ten men, and despite our heroic efforts, the passing grew sloppy and we never really troubled them.
So we need a point saturday. I get the frustration but last night wasn't the problem. Three points from Bristol, Preston, Watford, Wednesday and Oxford is the problem.
We need to get behind the team Saturday1 -
Our main source of "creativity" was long throws and we're crap those at those too, especially without Clarke.5
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Harsh and cold reality is we are where we deserve to be.We got 23 points from the first 14 games when we were still playing with the momentum of last season.
Since they evaporated, we’ve got just 27 in the 30 that followed. And we had a helping hand in some of those.People keep referring to the Middlesbrough game, but it was a freak result where we defended for 90 mins and they had 34 shots that never went in.I haven’t seen a team for months as poor as us, who score so few goals, has large gaps in midfield and increasingly as the season gone on found it hard to keep a clean sheet.We need a momentous effort to get that point. It can be done so it’s not a write off yet, but without that first two months of the season we would have already been condemned weeks ago.27 -
If we had competent cover for edwards at all this season we would be safe. Edwards and Bell can just about cover for a limited Gillesphey but no one else can. No real surprise Bell got injured at LWB but not his normal injury.
I felt Ipswich played the ref better than us. I hope we are safe after saturdays games because i dont feel at all well today8
