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Charlton women news - Promotion playoff v Leicester Sat 23rd May 12:30pm (p180)
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We’ve blown it. A calendar year without defeat yet still didn’t go up automatically.
Hope we win the playoff but have my doubts6 -
Well supported this afternoon with a gate of over 3 and a half thousand. They have failed to pick up a top 2 spot after being in the driving seat for 18 games.
Leicester will be an interesting afternoon in 3 weeks time2 -
At the Valley on the 23rdKap10 said:
Is that home or away? And what date?shirty5 said:Well supported this afternoon with a gate of over 3 and a half thousand. They have failed to pick up a top 2 spot after being in the driving seat for 18 games.
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Jobbers said:
In the last 7 games we achieved 1 win, yes 1 win.Addickhead86 said:In a league with Palace, Birmingham, Newcastle, Forest, Bristol City, Southampton, with the combined budgets or WSL history, it's just so hard to compete. Even look at the calibre of players Ipswich could sign in the winter window. If we had the opposite season to the one we had and ended up clinching a shot at the WSL in a playoff game on the last day of the season, things would be feeling different today, for sure. We just have to find a gameplan to win against Leicester, it’s a great opportunity that I don't think will come round soon unless the owners want to invest WSL level money into the team.
How does that happen to a team top of the league for most of the season? Questions have to be asked of the players, backroom staff and management team. This shouldn’t happen.Much like the collapse in the men's team's form at the end of the season, I expect it's down to them being knackered due to not quite having sufficient quality for their objectives (promotion for the women, avoiding relegation for the men) and a lack of squad depth.6 -
That said, I was disappointed we didn't make changes earlier today. Brum changed shape in the first half following the 'injury' to their keeper, and were completely in control from then on. At the latest, we needed to change it up following the second goal, but we waited ages after that (I know we made a sub at halftime, but it was like-for-like in a system that wasn't working).0
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Not that surprising, their form since they lost their unbeaten run has been pretty ropey.
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The way Carter spoke about how excited the ownership get about the women's team I can't help but feel like they missed a trick in January not to push the boat out.9
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We basically massively overperformed vs our budget fir the first 3/4 of the season. It obviously feels gutting to not get over the line but the unbeaten run was way more of an incredible thing than our bottom-half form since March.Gillis said:Jobbers said:
In the last 7 games we achieved 1 win, yes 1 win.Addickhead86 said:In a league with Palace, Birmingham, Newcastle, Forest, Bristol City, Southampton, with the combined budgets or WSL history, it's just so hard to compete. Even look at the calibre of players Ipswich could sign in the winter window. If we had the opposite season to the one we had and ended up clinching a shot at the WSL in a playoff game on the last day of the season, things would be feeling different today, for sure. We just have to find a gameplan to win against Leicester, it’s a great opportunity that I don't think will come round soon unless the owners want to invest WSL level money into the team.
How does that happen to a team top of the league for most of the season? Questions have to be asked of the players, backroom staff and management team. This shouldn’t happen.Much like the collapse in the men's team's form at the end of the season, I expect it's down to them being knackered due to not quite having sufficient quality for their objectives (promotion for the women, avoiding relegation for the men) and a lack of squad depth.5 -
Anyone else find the Brum fans to be massive knobheads?3
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OhMyGodden said:Anyone else find the Brum fans to be massive knobheads?
same as the mens lot then?4 -
Always areOhMyGodden said:Anyone else find the Brum fans to be massive knobheads?2 -
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Is it a one leg play off?Rothko said:
At the Valley on the 23rdKap10 said:
Is that home or away? And what date?shirty5 said:Well supported this afternoon with a gate of over 3 and a half thousand. They have failed to pick up a top 2 spot after being in the driving seat for 18 games.
Leicester will be an interesting afternoon in 3 weeks time
Maybe they should have just done 3 up and 1 down. Why let the bottom team even stand a chance?0 -
It is.jimmymelrose said:
Is it a one leg play off?Rothko said:
At the Valley on the 23rdKap10 said:
Is that home or away? And what date?shirty5 said:Well supported this afternoon with a gate of over 3 and a half thousand. They have failed to pick up a top 2 spot after being in the driving seat for 18 games.
Leicester will be an interesting afternoon in 3 weeks time
Maybe they should have just done 3 up and 1 down. Why let the bottom team even stand a chance?
Because they initially wanted to do no relegation and this was the compromise found0 -
Might do Leicester a club a favour to go down, it’s one cost they will cutfenaddick said:
It is.jimmymelrose said:
Is it a one leg play off?Rothko said:
At the Valley on the 23rdKap10 said:
Is that home or away? And what date?shirty5 said:Well supported this afternoon with a gate of over 3 and a half thousand. They have failed to pick up a top 2 spot after being in the driving seat for 18 games.
Leicester will be an interesting afternoon in 3 weeks time
Maybe they should have just done 3 up and 1 down. Why let the bottom team even stand a chance?
Because they initially wanted to do no relegation and this was the compromise found0 -
Knowing our luck we'll lose to Leicester, then they'll fold the women's team and instead of promoting us they'll take a Premier League's women's team instead like Newcastle2
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according to the Leicester website, it's going to be 12:30 on the 23rd, on BBC and Sky0
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There's a big logical part of me that knows that it's insane that a team put together out of free transfers from other teams around us on next to no budget has even finished in the top half let alone the playoff spots. If we'd sprinkled some of these losses in throughout the season I think it would feel a lot less like throwing it away and more like the achievement it is. As it is though we did throw it away in the end and today felt like a particular low point. Aside from one early chance we never looked like creating anything and it was a really cowardly performance from the team; lump it up the pitch to players who were outmatched in the air and didn't win a header all game, send the ball up the channels and ask players to chase it down rather than trying to get hold of it and build something. As the game wore on gaps opened up in Birmingham and players had the chance to take a bit of ownership and control and chose instead to send the ball away from themselves and ask someone else to do something with it. It was an incredibly gutless performance and that's really disappointing because I can take the lack of ability in the team up against a very talented and expensive side but I can't take the lack of desire from them today.Flannery tried to get on the ball and played on through obvious agony but so many other players just didn't want to get to grips with what the game needed and there was no point today after the opening ten minutes where I felt like the team looked like they had the will to get something from the game. Hutton sent every ball into the stratosphere and sulked about it, the back three sent the ball long every time, Muya and Fitzgerald were outworked. It's been a long season and they've punched well above their weight to get to where they are but today just felt like they'd given up a bit. Let's hope they can have a reset now and turn up against Leicester with the spirit they had against Liverpool. And practice some penalties.5
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Addickhead86 above has basically summed it up. Obviously today feels awful, but for me the moment of realisation that we had been defying gravity, and that it might not last for ever, was the Palace game just over a month ago. They were clearly the better team that day, and Birmingham were comfortably better than us this afternoon.
We started really well, pressing them high up the pitch and winning the ball back in good positions more than once, but we missed the one really good chance we created when Thestrup (I think?) put it over the bar. Birmingham gradually asserted themselves, had a good chance that forced an excellent save from Whitehouse after a cross to the back post, and then took the lead when their left winger got the better of Newsham down the right and crossed for Leidhammar to head home. We had one header from a deep free kick go wide, but other than that we struggled to create chances, and whenever we got into threatening positions we either made the wrong decision and the move fizzled out, or our forwards were eased off the ball by players stronger than we are (which has been a consistent theme all season).
Birmingham's second was eerily similar to Liverpool's winner against us in the FA Cup quarter-final as we failed to clear a corner and Leidhammar found the net from inside the box. They held us at arm's length after that - inevitably we started playing it long, but with our lack of physicality it was always in hope rather than expectation, and Birmingham usually managed to play the ball clear, find a player and get on the counter to force us back and eat up more of the clock. Our only chance (and possibly our only shot on target all afternoon?) was a free kick deep in added time from Bradley, which the keeper pushed away.
Today we were up against a team with a South Korean international, a Japanese international, and an attacking midfielder (Leidhammar) who cost £270,000, and it showed. The good news is that we have another chance against a demoralised Leicester. But it's impossible to deny that we've hit a wall: our attack has become even more blunt than it already was, and we're no longer keeping clean sheets. This is a real slump that has come at the worst possible time, and Hills has one heck of a job to get us going again for the play-off.8 -
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Karen Hills changed the winning team to bring back Skeels and Ross after long term terms. Lost three games.Jobbers said:
In the last 7 games we achieved 1 win, yes 1 win.Addickhead86 said:In a league with Palace, Birmingham, Newcastle, Forest, Bristol City, Southampton, with the combined budgets or WSL history, it's just so hard to compete. Even look at the calibre of players Ipswich could sign in the winter window. If we had the opposite season to the one we had and ended up clinching a shot at the WSL in a playoff game on the last day of the season, things would be feeling different today, for sure. We just have to find a gameplan to win against Leicester, it’s a great opportunity that I don't think will come round soon unless the owners want to invest WSL level money into the team.
How does that happen to a team top of the league for most of the season? Questions have to be asked of the players, backroom staff and management team. This shouldn’t happen.2 -
Karen Hills and Assistant Coach Charlie Chalk spent too many minutes looking at notes and tablets.Gillis said:That said, I was disappointed we didn't make changes earlier today. Brum changed shape in the first half following the 'injury' to their keeper, and we're completely in control from then on. At the latest, we needed to change it up following the second goal, but we waited ages after that (I know we made a sub at halftime, but it was like-for-like in a system that wasn't working).
I can't remember when any of the starting 11 scored a goal. They were playing for a draw as usual but not good enough.0 -
I only follow the women’s team via this thread and I don’t watch the games or highlights, but from what I have read on here, we have played poorly for months now and been lucky with our points return.Were we too preoccupied with protecting the unbeaten run rather than trying to win games ?1
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Karen Hills seems to like the team scoring a single goal and trying to defend the lead.MrOneLung said:I only follow the women’s team via this thread and I don’t watch the games or highlights, but from what I have read on here, we have played poorly for months now and been lucky with our points return.Were we too preoccupied with protecting the unbeaten run rather than trying to win games ?
This worked at Birmingham earlier in the season but is always prone to failure. Charlton drew with a lot of teams in the bottom half of the league.1 -
Disappointing game and result, but the ref was easy on the eye!1
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First 10 mins was bright enough though without any impact. One header wide but can't recall their keeper making a save. Birmingham settled after about 20 mins, played more direct. Good at set pieces. Never much impact from us apart from last few minutes, and even 13 mins stoppage time was no help - tho that was the best thing the ref did all afternoon, might as well have been wearing a blue shirt. Newsham on crutches pitchside after the game. Not sure having keeper as skipper is best move, Karen. Good motivating speech for Leicester game, hope team were listening while chatting with fans.0
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10 May: week off
17 May: week off
Sat 23 May: Leicester City, home. 12.30 pm. Prices TBC. Tickets from usual website, not on sale yet. Not announced yet whether season tickets are valid.
England's remaining world cup qualifiers are 5 June (away vs Spain, a draw needed) and 9 June home vs Ukraine, 8pm at Everton.0 -
Some of her decisions weren't.stockportugaladdick said:Disappointing game and result, but the ref was easy on the eye!3 -
I asked Brum fans how much they paid the ref and it rattled them. One guy was just shouting random nonsense at me for a few minutes afterwards.Gillis said:
Some of her decisions weren't.stockportugaladdick said:Disappointing game and result, but the ref was easy on the eye!4 -
Not for me she fecking wasn’t.stockportugaladdick said:Disappointing game and result, but the ref was easy on the eye!
I’m still raging, useless cow.2
