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POST-MATCH THREAD: Swansea City v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 2nd May 2026: KO 12:30
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The Swansea fans in the corner were class. The 2000 or so of them made more noise that the rest of the home areas combinedPemburyAddick said:the Swansea fans seemed to be applauding our fans at the end, which is a really nice touch. Some good chanting banter during the game. They were probably the best home fans I've seen out of 15 away games this season1 -
In a perfect shape, it's not his job. But we weren't in shape because they were overloading the other wing. In the scenario that plays out, if he doesn't go, nobody will and they have a free man. But you don't have to take my word for it. Luke Young knows a thing or two about shape and defending, having been part of a Curbs unit.killerandflash said:Surely it's not the number 9's job to be tracking runners? Especially one who had been on for 80 minutes, mainly as a lone striker which is a knackering role.
I'd expect one of the wide attackers or a midfielder to be tracking their right back there. Instead the whole team had been dragged over to the middle and right hand side.2 -
Totally agree.......NabySarr said:
Nothing will happen, and it shouldn’t. I’m sure some of our fans will be silly and jump on his back if we have a slow start, but we need to keep on giving him time and backing to deliver. If we’ve got a good number of new players then it might not be a fast start to next season while they settle inThe Red Robin said:
He’ll certainly start the season yes. I wonder what happens if we haven’t kicked on by October/November.eastterrace6168 said:Let's get one thing sorted, Nathan Jones is going nowhere, he will be here next season...imo 🤔
Derby were 20th in October, they have a good manager so stuck with him and nearly made the play offs. We have a good manager so we should be doing the same, wherever we are in October
I think a lot will depend on his choices for incoming players - especially midfield.
I just also also hope he settles quickly on his best 1st choice team and set up and gives them time to work together rather than too much tinkering. He now realises the necessary quality in this division and needs to get the right players in early.1 -
They were pretty good at the Valley as well. Apart from giving NJ stick but what do you expect? Decent banter. Good fans.PemburyAddick said:the Swansea fans seemed to be applauding our fans at the end, which is a really nice touch. Some good chanting banter during the game. They were probably the best home fans I've seen out of 15 away games this season0 -
Luke Young also partially excused him as being a forward, he wouldn't have that defensive instinct.Chunes said:
In a perfect shape, it's not his job. But we weren't in shape because they were overloading the other wing. In the scenario that plays out, if he doesn't go, nobody will and they have a free man. But you don't have to take my word for it. Luke Young knows a thing or two about shape and defending, having been part of a Curbs unit.killerandflash said:Surely it's not the number 9's job to be tracking runners? Especially one who had been on for 80 minutes, mainly as a lone striker which is a knackering role.
I'd expect one of the wide attackers or a midfielder to be tracking their right back there. Instead the whole team had been dragged over to the middle and right hand side.
If you're relying on a number 9, after 74 minutes of chasing shadows, to do your defensive work in open play, there's something very wrong with the shape and the rest of the team. If Dykes lost his man at a set piece, then I'd be blaming him, not an open play move like that. Big lumps up front aren't there to press right backs.
It was the first goal Young was talking about in that clip, and Knibbs was the player withdrawn straight after the goal, not Dykes, as he had flaked out. Cawley and Mendez in their podcast were surprised he wasn't one of the players withdrawn in the first changes, as he was gassed. Knibbs should have been the player pressing the right back, but instead he was ineffectively marking nobody.
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You’re correct in a way - Swansea deserve some credit for manipulating our block such that a tiring forward who isn’t usually responsible for tracking full backs was left in that position.killerandflash said:Surely it's not the number 9's job to be tracking runners? Especially one who had been on for 80 minutes, mainly as a lone striker which is a knackering role.
I'd expect one of the wide attackers or a midfielder to be tracking their right back there. Instead the whole team had been dragged over to the middle and right hand side.But it is unacceptable from Dykes, it didn’t require much effort and he still didn’t do it. If the ball was a riskier one and Dykes misses cutting it out by a half second you think “fair enough” but that wasn’t that in the situation.1 -
It’s prone to happening when the team is sat deep and throwing bodies in front of the ball but never actually getting the ball back.killerandflash said:
Luke Young also partially excused him as being a forward, he wouldn't have that defensive instinct.Chunes said:
In a perfect shape, it's not his job. But we weren't in shape because they were overloading the other wing. In the scenario that plays out, if he doesn't go, nobody will and they have a free man. But you don't have to take my word for it. Luke Young knows a thing or two about shape and defending, having been part of a Curbs unit.killerandflash said:Surely it's not the number 9's job to be tracking runners? Especially one who had been on for 80 minutes, mainly as a lone striker which is a knackering role.
I'd expect one of the wide attackers or a midfielder to be tracking their right back there. Instead the whole team had been dragged over to the middle and right hand side.
If you're relying on a number 9, after 74 minutes of chasing shadows, to do your defensive work in open play, there's something very wrong with the shape and the rest of the team. If Dykes lost his man at a set piece, then I'd be blaming him, not an open play move like that. Big lumps up front aren't there to press right backs.
It was the first goal Young was talking about in that clip, and Knibbs was the player withdrawn straight after the goal, not Dykes, as he had flaked out. Cawley and Mendez in their podcast were surprised he wasn't one of the players withdrawn in the first changes, as he was gassed. Knibbs should have been the player pressing the right back, but instead he was ineffectively marking nobody.The longer an opposition has the ball, the longer they can probe and find a situation to exploit, like they did.0
