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  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,350
    RobinKeepsBobbin said:
    I did a £5 acca Millwall, Bradford, Chesterfield, Rochdale
    Let's hope you lose then.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 7,835
    Guys. I wasn’t being serious. 


  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,656
    CharltonManor1966 said:
    Laddick01 said:
    I’ll personally be supporting Millwall 

    We managed a draw away at Southampton. We lost 4-0 at the Den. Think it’s better for us as a club if Millwall go up and I’ll cheer if they do.

    Stevenage I agree on though. 
    Admin - get this man banned on here for 3 months please!?
    Even I agree! 😂
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,365
    Laddick01 said:
    Guys. I wasn’t being serious. 



  • Ducktapeshoerepairs
    Ducktapeshoerepairs Posts: 1,067
    LargeAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    killerandflash said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    I thought we saw the weakest league one playoffs for many years last year but looks like this years take the biscuit. 

    I would take anyone but Bolton promoted out of that lot, would certainly make next seasons relegation battle much weaker. 
    Yes,  the points gap between 2nd and 3rd is a massive 14 points reflecting how ordinary the playoff teams are.

    Luton and Plymouth will be gutted they started the season so slowly, as both are probably better now than the 4 teams above them.
    Luton missed out to a 92nd minute stevenage win against Wigan
    And a ‘goal’ that didn’t even cross the line to boot. Saying that Luton’s penalty, neatly put away by our new signing Jordan Clark, was extremely soft.
    New signing ? 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,756
    Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
    LargeAddick said:
    shine166 said:
    killerandflash said:
    CAFC_boi said:
    I thought we saw the weakest league one playoffs for many years last year but looks like this years take the biscuit. 

    I would take anyone but Bolton promoted out of that lot, would certainly make next seasons relegation battle much weaker. 
    Yes,  the points gap between 2nd and 3rd is a massive 14 points reflecting how ordinary the playoff teams are.

    Luton and Plymouth will be gutted they started the season so slowly, as both are probably better now than the 4 teams above them.
    Luton missed out to a 92nd minute stevenage win against Wigan
    And a ‘goal’ that didn’t even cross the line to boot. Saying that Luton’s penalty, neatly put away by our new signing Jordan Clark, was extremely soft.
    New signing ? 
    On another thread another poster was adamant we are signing Clark, out of contract at Luton, known to Jones. Probably bollocks though.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,772
    The football romantic in me wants the play-off winners to be: Boro, Bolton/Bradford and then Grimsby/Notts County. Those are your biggest clubs of the lot and 'deserve' the promotions on club stature.

    I think realistically, it's gonna be Saints or Millwall, Stockport and then I reckon Salford.

    For us, we want it to be Southampton and Stevenage. Get one of the parachute payments teams gone, who let's be honest, will only start next season better, and Stevenage who are absolutely pony and will be right down there. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,857
    Lincoln have been amazing this season, but if we can't finish above the 3 promoted teams next season,  that would be a massive failure. 

    I don't see any of the L1 playoff teams doing well next season,  as the step up is so large now 
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,396
    killerandflash said:
    Lincoln have been amazing this season, but if we can't finish above the 3 promoted teams next season,  that would be a massive failure. 

    I don't see any of the L1 playoff teams doing well next season,  as the step up is so large now 
    Cardiff could potentially do okay given they have a long recent Championship history and just the one season in League One. Bolton would be the trickiest of the play off teams with the capability to stay up but agree regards the other three Bradford, Stockport, Stevenage. On a personal note Bradford going up would be a new ground for me to visit and back to back promotions would surely be too much for them as well.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,656
    killerandflash said:
    Lincoln have been amazing this season, but if we can't finish above the 3 promoted teams next season,  that would be a massive failure. 

    I don't see any of the L1 playoff teams doing well next season,  as the step up is so large now 
    It’s huge these days. Much bigger than in previous years. 

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  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 13,943
    Would like Bradford to go up as we often lose to Bolton. Stevenage surprises me they have made it in to the play offs for such a small club and they have done the double over Stockport this season so could get to the final. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,211
    Braziliance said:
    The football romantic in me wants the play-off winners to be: Boro, Bolton/Bradford and then Grimsby/Notts County. Those are your biggest clubs of the lot and 'deserve' the promotions on club stature.

    I think realistically, it's gonna be Saints or Millwall, Stockport and then I reckon Salford.

    For us, we want it to be Southampton and Stevenage. Get one of the parachute payments teams gone, who let's be honest, will only start next season better, and Stevenage who are absolutely pony and will be right down there. 
    Are Middlesbrough a bigger club than Southampton? About the same imo.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,857
    Bolton have been pretty average this season. We  got 85 points in a L1 with two massively rich sides, whereas they've finished 5th with 75. They'd have to massively strengthen. 
  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 3,020
    edited May 3
    Not saying it's not a big step up, however worth remembering only 2 of the last 15 promoted sides from League One has gone straight back down.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,656
    DyerConsequences said:
    Not saying it's not a big step up, however worth remembering only 1 of the last 15 promoted sides from League One has gone straight back down.
    Interesting. I wonder how many went down in their second season 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,857
    MillwallFan said:
    DyerConsequences said:
    Not saying it's not a big step up, however worth remembering only 1 of the last 15 promoted sides from League One has gone straight back down.
    Interesting. I wonder how many went down in their second season 
    Oxford this season, Wrexham and Birmingham next season...
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,500
    edited May 3
    killerandflash said:
    MillwallFan said:
    DyerConsequences said:
    Not saying it's not a big step up, however worth remembering only 1 of the last 15 promoted sides from League One has gone straight back down.
    Interesting. I wonder how many went down in their second season 
    Oxford this season, Wrexham and MIllwall next season...
     ;) 

    *Edit: didn't read the thread properly, but yknow, its the sentiment that counts.
  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 3,020
    MillwallFan said:
    DyerConsequences said:
    Not saying it's not a big step up, however worth remembering only 1 of the last 15 promoted sides from League One has gone straight back down.
    Interesting. I wonder how many went down in their second season 

    Apologies, actually 2 of 15. Should always double check facts I read 🤣

    4 have gone down in their second season.

    2022 - N/A
    2023 - Blackpool 
    2024 - Rotherham 
    2025 - Plymouth 
    2026 - Oxford 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,656
    DyerConsequences said:
    MillwallFan said:
    DyerConsequences said:
    Not saying it's not a big step up, however worth remembering only 1 of the last 15 promoted sides from League One has gone straight back down.
    Interesting. I wonder how many went down in their second season 

    Apologies, actually 2 of 15. Should always double check facts I read 🤣

    4 have gone down in their second season.

    2022 - N/A
    2023 - Blackpool 
    2024 - Rotherham 
    2025 - Plymouth 
    2026 - Oxford 
    So in the last 5 years, 4 teams have gone down in their second season. The dreaded second season is a real thing then. I think promotion momentum can really play a part in staying up and doing well in the first season back up but without that in the second season it can be a struggle. Not to give you lot any nerves for next season already of course 😁

    I’ve mentioned on here before, our first season back up we finished 8th. Our second season we finished 21st. Avoid the dreaded drop in your second season and I think you’ll go on to be an established championship club again and maybe even challenging top 6 in a couple of years. It’s all about next season though. Massive massive summer ahead for you boys this year. Can’t be understated. 
  • CharltonManor1966
    CharltonManor1966 Posts: 589
    MillwallFan said:
    CharltonManor1966 said:
    Laddick01 said:
    I’ll personally be supporting Millwall 

    We managed a draw away at Southampton. We lost 4-0 at the Den. Think it’s better for us as a club if Millwall go up and I’ll cheer if they do.

    Stevenage I agree on though. 
    Admin - get this man banned on here for 3 months please!?
    Even I agree! 😂
    At the risk of being banned myself @MillwallFan I wish you personally all the very best (of course not your team).
    Your comments on here are always fair and reasonable.
    Having said all that clearly we all hope you don't succeed in the play-offs because - well, you are Millwall and no-one likes you and you don't care!
    All the best mate

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  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,656
    CharltonManor1966 said:
    MillwallFan said:
    CharltonManor1966 said:
    Laddick01 said:
    I’ll personally be supporting Millwall 

    We managed a draw away at Southampton. We lost 4-0 at the Den. Think it’s better for us as a club if Millwall go up and I’ll cheer if they do.

    Stevenage I agree on though. 
    Admin - get this man banned on here for 3 months please!?
    Even I agree! 😂
    At the risk of being banned myself @MillwallFan I wish you personally all the very best (of course not your team).
    Your comments on here are always fair and reasonable.
    Having said all that clearly we all hope you don't succeed in the play-offs because - well, you are Millwall and no-one likes you and you don't care!
    All the best mate
    Thank you mate. That’s very much appreciated. 

    As for your last paragraph, well I wouldn’t want it any other way 😁 as I’ve also said on here numerous times, football without rivalry is nothing. 

    Thanks again 🙏
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,202
    edited May 3
    Promoted L1 sides by season:

    2019/20 - Coventry have stayed up (and got promoted). Rotherham and Wycombe have not.
    - Rotherham relegated first season.
    - Wycombe relegated first season.

    2020/21 - Hull have stayed up. Peterborough and Blackpool have not.
    - Peterborough relegated first season.
    - Blackpool relegated second season.

    2021/22 - Sunderland have stayed up (and got promoted again). Wigan and Rotherham have not.
    - Wigan relegated first season.
    - Rotherham relegated second season.

    2022/23 - Ipswich have stayed up (and got promoted twice). Plymouth and Sheffield Wednesday have not.
    - Plymouth relegated second season.
    - Sheffield Wednesday relegated third season.

    2023/24 - Portsmouth and Derby have stayed up. Oxford have not.
    - Oxford relegated second season.

    2024/25 - Birmingham, Wrexham and Charlton all stayed up.


    Of 15 teams promoted in the five seasons (2019-2024) prior to our promotion:
    - 4 (Rotherham 2021, Wycombe, Peterborough and Wigan) were relegated first season in the Championship
    - 4 (Blackpool, Rotherham 2024, Plymouth, Oxford) were relegated second season in the Championship
    - 1 (Sheffield Wednesday) were relegated in their third season in the Championship
    - 3 (Coventry, Sunderland, Ipswich) have survived and won promotion to the Premier League
    - 3 (Hull, Portsmouth, Derby) have each survived for five, two and two seasons respectively.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,500
    MillwallFan said:
    CharltonManor1966 said:
    MillwallFan said:
    CharltonManor1966 said:
    Laddick01 said:
    I’ll personally be supporting Millwall 

    We managed a draw away at Southampton. We lost 4-0 at the Den. Think it’s better for us as a club if Millwall go up and I’ll cheer if they do.

    Stevenage I agree on though. 
    Admin - get this man banned on here for 3 months please!?
    Even I agree! 😂
    At the risk of being banned myself @MillwallFan I wish you personally all the very best (of course not your team).
    Your comments on here are always fair and reasonable.
    Having said all that clearly we all hope you don't succeed in the play-offs because - well, you are Millwall and no-one likes you and you don't care!
    All the best mate
    Thank you mate. That’s very much appreciated. 

    As for your last paragraph, well I wouldn’t want it any other way 😁 as I’ve also said on here numerous times, football without rivalry is nothing. 

    Thanks again 🙏
    Piss off  <3
  • Almeriaddick
    Almeriaddick Posts: 18
    Laddick01 said:
    Guys. I wasn’t being serious. 


    There are some things you just don't joke about.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,857
    Most of the teams from Callumcafc's list that went down are ones you'd expect to struggle, teams who at Championship level are minnows. Lincoln staying up for more than 2 seasons would be a miracle. 

    We shouldn't be in that category,  as this is our natural level,  but nothing is guaranteed...
  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,331
    Scandalous decision to award Stevenage that goal.
    Salford also denied the clearest pen of all time to deny them a chance for automatic promotion. 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,038
    Doesn’t matter from our viewpoint who gets promoted from Stockport, Bolton, Stevenage or Bradford all would go straight back down. 
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,315
    Crispywood said:
    Doesn’t matter from our viewpoint who gets promoted from Stockport, Bolton, Stevenage or Bradford all would go straight back down. 
    Stevenage would be the easiest and cheapest away trip. For that reason, I’d also prefer it if Middlesbrough get promoted via the playoffs.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,396
    MillwallFan said:
    DyerConsequences said:
    MillwallFan said:
    DyerConsequences said:
    Not saying it's not a big step up, however worth remembering only 1 of the last 15 promoted sides from League One has gone straight back down.
    Interesting. I wonder how many went down in their second season 

    Apologies, actually 2 of 15. Should always double check facts I read 🤣

    4 have gone down in their second season.

    2022 - N/A
    2023 - Blackpool 
    2024 - Rotherham 
    2025 - Plymouth 
    2026 - Oxford 
    So in the last 5 years, 4 teams have gone down in their second season. The dreaded second season is a real thing then. I think promotion momentum can really play a part in staying up and doing well in the first season back up but without that in the second season it can be a struggle. Not to give you lot any nerves for next season already of course 😁

    I’ve mentioned on here before, our first season back up we finished 8th. Our second season we finished 21st. Avoid the dreaded drop in your second season and I think you’ll go on to be an established championship club again and maybe even challenging top 6 in a couple of years. It’s all about next season though. Massive massive summer ahead for you boys this year. Can’t be understated. 
    Agree it’ll be a tough slog this time round and I’d probably settle on 21st as well and a potential repeat of this season’s style of play if I’m honest.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,651
    Bookies see it as very tight for the Championship Playoffs:

    Southampton 2/1
    Millwall 9/4
    Middlesbrough 9/4
    Hull 6/1

    Looks about right as Southampton have potentially two tough matches whereas Millwall should beat Hull comfortably.

    Assuming both go as expected I would price the final (to win promotion) at Southampton 1/2 - Millwall 6/4

    It's going to be interesting.

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