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  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 13,058
    Oilers overcome a 3-1 deficit to win 4-3, Draisaitl getting the PP winner with 31 secs left in OT off a feed from McDavid.

    Skinner SA 32 SV 29
    Bobrovsky SA 46 SV 42
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    Just watched the full game on re-run. This series will be incredible if rest of the games are anything like that.

    That no look behind the back pass from Perry was absolutely peak. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,577
    Yeah, that PP goal in OT was like a can opener. I know he's not many people's favourite human being, but for Perry to still be doing shit like that in OT of a Stanley Cup final at 40 is very impressive.

    I said Oilers in 6, but after last night a 7-game series looks very possible. They'll all be barely still walking by game 7 if the physicality keeps up like last night.
  • I’m pleasantly surprised that the Oilers won that. They seemed to dominate the 3rd, but were a bit fortunate to get though the first 5 minutes of overtime, and could really generate any consistent possession in the Panthers zone. I hope they can win this. 
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    Yeah, that PP goal in OT was like a can opener. I know he's not many people's favourite human being, but for Perry to still be doing shit like that in OT of a Stanley Cup final at 40 is very impressive.

    I said Oilers in 6, but after last night a 7-game series looks very possible. They'll all be barely still walking by game 7 if the physicality keeps up like last night.
    That hit by Kane behind the net in the first period... 🤤
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,577
    And an entire City breathes a sigh of relief. Happy my daughter's heart won't be broken for at least another 3 seasons!

    THE CAPTAIN 🫡

    The #Oilers have signed forward Connor McDavid to a two-year contract extension with an AAV of $12.5 million! pic.twitter.com/UYpGe4NKkx

    — Edmonton Oilers (@EdmontonOilers) October 6, 2025
  • And an entire City breathes a sigh of relief. Happy my daughter's heart won't be broken for at least another 3 seasons!

    THE CAPTAIN 🫡

    The #Oilers have signed forward Connor McDavid to a two-year contract extension with an AAV of $12.5 million! pic.twitter.com/UYpGe4NKkx

    — Edmonton Oilers (@EdmontonOilers) October 6, 2025
    That’s an odd one - why only $12.5, Draisaltl is on $14
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639

    He'll be a free agent as the salary cap goes up, and if the Coilers don't win a cup this year or next - especially after he's taken a 2 year contract at probably about 6 million a year less than he could have got elsewhere (maybe more if the size of the Kaprizov deal is any indicator) - he can go somewhere else in 2027 for a huge deal. It also means there can't possibly be any tarnishing of his time in Edmonton (only a sour prick would begrudge him going somewhere else already at this point, but he genuinely loves the town, the franchise and the fans - similar situation to Crosby with the Pens) and gives Edmonton a it of room to bring some pieces in if they think it'll help get them over the line. 

    FWIW, I think they win it this year. The Panthers are beat up (Tkachuk is a loss, but not as much as Barkov) and there are indications that teams are willing to bring up the goons this year to deal with their shithousery - the league sure aren't doing anything about it - so there's every chance they end up with some more integral pieces getting run at (Ekblad, and Bennett in particular need a good battering). I don't see any other team in the West having the tools needed to deal with Edmonton in the playoffs, and if anything, the East is weaker this year. I'd like to see the win it - it's a hockey town, and McJesus absolutely deserves a cup. 

  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,577
    edited October 2025
    Yeah, Leroy nails it. He's effectively taken a pay freeze for two years and, in doing so, left money on the table that the Oilers management can hopefully use to bring in the final pieces of the jig saw. Hopefully a top-quality goalie!

    He's signed a team friendly deal because he really only wants one thing - to win a cup - and he'd love to do in Edmonton. Without some wizard trades, Edmonton's window is starting to close as, McDavid and Draisaitl aside, some of their key players are getting on the old side now so giving them two more years is very fair on McDavid's part. 

    I wouldn't rule out him signing again at the end of this deal, but the Oilers will need to have won at least one cup by then and look capable of winning more. If he thinks the Oilers are on a downward trajectory by then then he'll either go wherever he thinks his best chance of winning is, or take a huge pay day, likely somewhere with low tax rates and better weather.

    I think it's a smart decision on his part and balances his career with his legacy and reputation in Edmonton. Also speaks to what drives him, and it's not the money - not that he's going to be left hard up by this deal, of course.

    I hope Leroy is right, but I think Florida still start the season as favourites and there are threats in the west. Going all the way to the Stanley Cup final 3 years running is a huge ask, but they've shown they can pace themselves over the last 2 years and McDavid and Draisaitl will be even more motivated than ever. I do agree, though, Barkov missing potentially the entire season, including the playoffs, is huge and might be the bit of good fortune needed to tip the scales in Edmonton's favour.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    Yeah, Leroy nails it. He's effectively taken a pay freeze for two years and, in doinfg so, left money on the table that the Oilers management can hopefully use bring in the final pieces of the jig saw. Hoepfully a top-quality goalie!

    He's signed a team friendly deal because he really only want one thing - to win a cup - and he'd love to do in Edmonton. Without some wizard trades, Edmonton's window starting to close as, McDavid and Draisaitl aside, some of their key players are getting on the old side now so giving them two more years is very fair on McDavid's part. 

    I wouldn't rule out him signing again at the end of this deal, but the Oilers will need to have won at least one cup by then and look capable of winning more. If he thinks the Oilers are on a downward trajectory by then then he'll either go wherever he thinks his best chance of winning is, or take a huge pay day, likely somewhere with low tax rates and better weather.

    I think it's a smart decision on his part and balances his career with his legacy and reputation in Edmonton. Also speaks to what drives him, and it's not the money - not that he's going to be left hard up by this deal, of course.

    I hope Leroy is right, but I think Florida still start the season as favourites and there are threats in the west. Going all the way to the Stanley Cup final 3 years running is a huge ask, but they've shown they can pace themselves over the last 2 years and McDavid and Draisaitl will be even more motivated than ever. I do agree, though, Barkov missing potentially the entire season, including playoffs, is huge and might be the bit of good fortune needed to tip the scales in Edmonton's favour.
    I loved watching the Lightning run em up and fill em in in preseason the other day. If the Department Of Panthers Safety isn't going to do anything about them gooning it up, then fuck it - let everyone bring up the goons and batter them. Maybe that'll make the league do something about it. Sick of watching Bennett, Tkachuk and Ekblad getting away with shit without punishment. 

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  • Exiled_Addick
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    Bennett winds me up in particular. His whole "oops I fell on the goalie again" schtick is infuriating.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    Bennett winds me up in particular. His whole "oops I fell on the goalie again" schtick is infuriating.
    Turd of a player. Like a talented Avery. His schtick got tired a long time ago - I'm hoping somebody takes a good run at him this year.
  • Exiled_Addick
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    Christmas/Birthday treat for me and Exiled Jnr No.2


  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    Coilers looking good now that McJesus has got bored waiting for other people to help @Exiled_Addick
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,577
    @Leroy Ambrose  Yeah, they're picking up. Conceding too many goals though and the goal tending switch doesn't seem to have helped. Pens are getting better end of that trade currently, although Skinner has always had hot streaks, it's consistency that has been his issue. 
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    @Exiled_Addick Pens look good this year. Still have PTSD from that run of games in December where they had three and four goal leads and blew them - so Saturday's game had me in fits.

    The fourth line might be the best I've seen in years - absolute energy every single shift, start to finish.

    Schedule is brutal after the Olympics though - so even though it looks good now, I'm expecting a bit of a regression to the mean in March. Whatever happens, Dubas has proved that if Shanahan and the rest of the front office clownshow in Toronto had just left him to make decisions, they'd probably have a cup by now. 

    I think the Oilers have just embraced the fact they're never going to be a good defensive team, and are hoping at this point that McJesus, Draisatl and Hyman can sneak them to a cup. Hopefully for them, it looks like they won't run into Tkachuk again in the finals this year, as Florida look like a shadow of themselves without Barkov (though he's on the way back, and should be ready after the Olympics). Don't fancy their chances of getting past the Avs though - Mackinnon is absolutely possessed this season.

    My sneaky pick is the Habs. Great young team, plenty of depth and genuine energy throughout the lineup. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,577
    @Leroy Ambrose what the hell
    is going on with the Pens? Haven’t caught any of their games so far but expected it to be a tight series with Philly and Sid motivated for one last hurrah. Doesn’t seem to be working out that way though. 
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    @Leroy Ambrose what the hell
    is going on with the Pens? Haven’t caught any of their games so far but expected it to be a tight series with Philly and Sid motivated for one last hurrah. Doesn’t seem to be working out that way though. 
    @Exiled_Addick Better the last two games 😏. I'm just happy they made the postseason to be honest. Was a surprise, considering they were predicted to be a lottery team this year. Dubas and Muse built a competitive team around the aging core - but it's not really a postseason team. First game at home was closer than the score suggests, but the second and game 3 in Philly were horrible. Mantha disappearing until last game was a concern, and Chinakhov is being muscles out of it, but there's plenty of grit there. Just hope they can get it done tonight and force a game 7 - though the doomer in me says it won't happen.

    Oilers look a busted flush at this point. Managed to stave off elimination, but I don't see it continuing if I'm honest. They've got the easier side of the West, but I think either Utah or Vegas dumps them out in R2. Not sure where they go from there either. Bouchard ain't it defensively - but having an offensive minded dman like that can work, provided he's not stapled to some absolute pylon on the other side. McJesus clearly playing hurt doesn't help - but even healthy he can't gloss over the deep defensive problems. And Jarry - lol 😂 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,577
    Yeah, Pens have woken up it seems. Will be an interesting series from here.

    With the Oilers, I dunno if I'd go as far as a busted flush. It's been a weird series. Oilers have still managed to score 4 in every game but one. Defensively it's been hard to explain. They brought Paul Coffey back to coach the defence, traded for Murphy and Dickinson, and declared Ingram to be the #1 goalie and then really seemed to finally find that balance of defensive responsibility in the home stretch. They were restricting the number of shots getting through to their fragile goal tending and it all looked like it was coming together a bit. Probably not cup winning stuff, but maybe good enough to get to the conference final in a weak side of the draw. It's all gone out of the window a bit, though, in this series and even last night they were heavily out shot, although they felt like they were conserving energy a bit. And the refereeing call on that OT goal in game 4 was bull-shit. I don't dispute the puck was *probably* in, but there was no effing way the refs could call that on the ice.

    With Jarry, to be fair, he actually had a good game in game 4, but he'd been complete turd in an Oilers jersey up to that and it was a terrible trade although something had to give with Stu too, it'd gotten poisonous and his occasional Carey Price impersonations were no longer making up for the calamities in between. Shame, because he's a local lad and a likeable guy. Ingram's not an elite goalie but he seems a bit more predictable at least. He was excellent last night.

    I don't know how to call it. On the one hand, it just hasn't felt like their year all season long - there's just been too many flaws and inconsistencies. At the same time, we've been here with the Oilers so many times before - they seem to thrive on digging a hole just so they can dig themselves out of it. Experience might start to tell against a young Ducks team, and McDavid was skating much better last night and he's started registering points so I think he may be getting a bit healthier. And he wants it so so badly.

    I think they either lose it in 6 or win it in 7, I don't think they lose if they can get it back to Rogers Place one more time. If they somehow get through this then I agree both Vegas or Utah could beat them, but I don' think they'll be scared of either of them.

    The Avs, the Wild, or the Stars in a conference final will be a different kettle of fish.
  • Exiled_Addick
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    Just checked the score @Leroy Ambrose 0-0 with 3 mins left of OT1. Tense as fuck. 

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  • Leroy Ambrose
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    Just checked the score @Leroy Ambrose 0-0 with 3 mins left of OT1. Tense as fuck. 
    Christ, that was bad timing on your part 😩

    I am a zombie this morning - and gutted. Thought we were the better team - falling to lose on a shitty goal like that, especially after Silovs stood on his head all game. 

    Hope the Coilers win it all now 😉 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,577
    Just checked the score @Leroy Ambrose 0-0 with 3 mins left of OT1. Tense as fuck. 
    Christ, that was bad timing on your part 😩

    I am a zombie this morning - and gutted. Thought we were the better team - falling to lose on a shitty goal like that, especially after Silovs stood on his head all game. 

    Hope the Coilers win it all now 😉 
    Yeah, sorry about that, I think they must've scored while I was typing - proper jinxed it!

    Tough break.

    You don't have to cheer for the Oilers, but every right-minded person should be rooting for a Canadian team once their preferred team is out. I genuinely think it'd be good for the sport for McDavid to get the monkey off his back. He may not give the most charismatic interviews, but he's a grounded team player of immense talent that there's no real reason for neutrals to begrudge him a cup.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    Just checked the score @Leroy Ambrose 0-0 with 3 mins left of OT1. Tense as fuck. 
    Christ, that was bad timing on your part 😩

    I am a zombie this morning - and gutted. Thought we were the better team - falling to lose on a shitty goal like that, especially after Silovs stood on his head all game. 

    Hope the Coilers win it all now 😉 
    Yeah, sorry about that, I think they must've scored while I was typing - proper jinxed it!

    Tough break.

    You don't have to cheer for the Oilers, but every right-minded person should be rooting for a Canadian team once their preferred team is out. I genuinely think it'd be good for the sport for McDavid to get the monkey off his back. He may not give the most charismatic interviews, but he's a grounded team player of immense talent that there's no real reason for neutrals to begrudge him a cup.
    All in for the Habs then! 😬

    I don't see McDavid winning it with Edmonton now, unless they trade Draisatl for some better D. It's not the goaltending - it never has been
  • Exiled_Addick
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    Yep, I guess we can let this thread sink for another year! McDavid nailed it post-game "We've been an average team all year. If you're an average team with high expectations, you're going to end up disappointed".

    I think goal tending has been part of the problem, but defence overall has been nowhere near good enough. Certainly not this year. No surprise the one game they kept the scoring against low, they won comfortably. But when you concede an average of 5 goals a game in the other 5, even McDavid and Draisaitl are going to struggle to outscore that consistently.

    I agree the window is closing fast and they need to do something drastic to free up cap space and get some prospects on board. Draisaitl and McD's contracts aren't actually that bad for what they bring - it's more the likes of Nurse (who's turned into a third line goon with a Frank Spencer approach to mishaps) halfway through an 8 year deal with a cap hit of $9.25 that are causing the headaches. Trouble is he is just not an attractive tradable asset and the Oilers would have to retain at least 50% to get shot of him.

    I agree it may need something drastic like moving Drai on to free up some squares and get some prospects in because they have traded away a ton of early picks too. Just feels unthinkable to give him up, I almost like him more than McDavid.
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,639
    It must be hard being Darnell Nurse - not even the best hockey player in your family 🤣