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2006/07 - Twenty years on....
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Dowie was never the right choice. In what world was he even considered for an established Premier League team? Murray didn’t put Charlton first. He should have let Curbs see out the final season out and spend it looking for a successor. And he only appointed Dowie to get one up on Jordan.As for the moment I realised we were going down - the Wycombe cup game. The perfect example of the players not wanting to play for the manager.5
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100% correct - add that grey and orange coat from that season - just reminds me of dowie and relegationOff_it said:
Couldn't disagree more.CAFCTrev said:Quite liked the kits from that season. I think the away is the best of our various black kits over the years, the gold accents and hooped socks clinch it for me. Joma were a mixed bag overall, the black away and the two Catford Southend/Inter Milan aways are my faves from their run.
Those kits are some of the worst in living memory, forever tainted with the stench of Dowie, Hasselbank, Faye, Traore and relegation.
The black away kit we wore at Arsenal in the 4-2 game is easily the best of those versions.1 -
Awful decision to appoint Dowie. Knew it would be a disaster from day one. Nothing to do with his ability but just his past would split the fan base and he’d always just be a Palace c**t when things weren’t going well.The Red Robin said:Dowie was never the right choice. In what world was he even considered for an established Premier League team? Murray didn’t put Charlton first. He should have let Curbs see out the final season out and spend it looking for a successor. And he only appointed Dowie to get one up on Jordan.As for the moment I realised we were going down - the Wycombe cup game. The perfect example
of the players not wanting to play for the manager.2 -
Even Mick McCarthy or Aidy Boothroyd would have been better choices at the time. Can’t remember now who else was around. Didn’t Billy Davies turn us down?
More evidence that Murray got lucky with his Curbs/Gritt coin flip. Curbs and Varney built Charlton, not Murray.8 -
I remember remarking to the person next to me at the Man United home game that this was going to be a tough season and so it proved. There was a vibe about the whole thing at the start of that season and it was just wasn't a good one. There were moments later on when we looked like we could turn it around - the initial Pardew vibe was good - the defeat of Aston Villa at home felt like a turning point but proved a false dawn, then the mauling of West Ham then another lull.
The game has changed so much since we were relegated and so have we, the Championship has grown in status since then, the Premier League has the endless revolving teams going up and down.
The money side is even more insane than ever. I feel happy where we are at the moment and consequently feel the happiest about Charlton since prior to finding out about Curbs departing.I will be happy to stand still in The Championship for a while!
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Murray got too cocky and it failed. 3 awful appointments and we suffered. Pardew was the worst long term.2
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This is before my time as a supporter but like many I had a soft spot for Charlton at the time (I jumped on that sweet, sweet bandwagon the next season). I remember thinking the Dowie appointment was a bit of an odd one. Apart from the Palace connection, it just felt a very lateral move at best. I remember the Les Reed appointment vividly, and how it was the talk of the Prem of how things went off the rails.
It's obviously such a shame. I hope we get back to the Prem one day. But for now, I'm just happy that we're in the Championship where we belong, and where one hot season, even a couple good runs over the course of a season, can see you go up. I know it's probably not enough for those of you who grew up during the Prem days, but the Championship was kind of my "Prem Days," so I have some nostalgia for us getting back into the Champ. Now we just need to start moving up the table. And to beat Millwall.3 -
Wow. What an excellent post. Hats off to this man. Bold bit sums it up for me.Garrymanilow said:I was 16 when we went down. A few years ago I had the realisation that Charlton had been a dumpster fire for more than half of my life and that was a pretty depressing thought. Since that relegation it feels like there's been maybe 3 years where we haven't been a ridiculous cautionary tale for football teams - penniless in the Championship and suffering yet another relegation, failing to go straight back up from L1, rescued by the spivs and their wonderful money man which all turned out to be a lie, penniless again and taken over by Roland, the protests, the Australian 'takeover', more protests, '...', Nobby Vinegar, another relegation, Russell Slade's tablecloths, Bowyer's promotion, ESI, a secret transfer embargo, bitches and bread, an injury time relegation, Elliott, Farnell, injunctions, the dentist (who in my heart still owns us), good Sandgaard, bad Sandgaard, son of Sandgaard, Methven's failed takeover, the binman's failed takeover, Methven's successful takeover, staring down the barrel of a relegation to L2 and now we're at a point where football is so fundamentally broken there are no non-insane football teams, there's no way to break into the elite and once you got there would you really want to?What really kills me is all the missed opportunities. We chose the worst possible time to do the things we did as a club. We got relegated at a bad time and then all the lies catching up with the spivs meant that we didn't capitalise on our momentum in 12/13 and it was after that point that football became a closed shop. Annoyingly Palace chose the perfect time to sneak up and they were able to cling on on a small budget before the money started rolling in. I remember seeing them bid £10m for Yohan Cabaye and realising that the gulf was just too wide now. You needed to be established in the right place when the rocket took off and we weren't there. 20 years of insanity and lost moments and a lot of it because an old man wanted to annoy a local rival. Absolute madness.4 -
There’s one other important event that hasnt been mentioned: the injury to Darren Bent.4
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Andy Reid too for a bit. Pardew may have been able to keep us up with both of them available but the damage had been done by Murray and Dowie.PragueAddick said:There’s one other important event that hasnt been mentioned: the injury to Darren Bent.
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Thinking of getting it framed.
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You'll need one hell of a big frame to get that useless lumps fat arse in itCAFCTrev said:Thinking of getting it framed.4 -
I just remember his constant complaining when passes didn’t go directly to his feet which meant he would have actually needed to run for it.CAFCTrev said:Thinking of getting it framed.Useless twat.5 -
Spurs and Arsenal away - horrible experiences. Combined scoreline of 1-9.
I was confident that we would stay up after beating West Ham 4-0.
We were so close to getting 3 points at the end of the game away to Watford.
Also remember the rage in me when we got denied three points at home to Fulham by the blind linesman.
Confidence was high the following season. ‘We’ll be back in the Prem next season’.
In the opener we then drew 1-1 at home to Scunthorpe United…0 -
We were doing well til Jan. Think we lost once in our first 11 and Andy Reid was smashing it. Then we sold him and signed Andy GrayDanepak said:Spurs and Arsenal away - horrible experiences. Combined scoreline of 1-9.
I was confident that we would stay up after beating West Ham 4-0.
We were so close to getting 3 points at the end of the game away to Watford.
Also remember the rage in me when we got denied three points at home to Fulham by the blind linesman.
Confidence was high the following season. ‘We’ll be back in the Prem next season’.
In the opener we then drew 1-1 at home to Scunthorpe United…
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That linesman decision I think killed any chance of survival, we would have had back to back wins and building momentum with a new manager bounce under Pardew. The correct decision with that throw in would have seen us close the win out.Danepak said:Spurs and Arsenal away - horrible experiences. Combined scoreline of 1-9
I was confident that we would stay up after beating West Ham 4-0.
We were so close to getting 3 points at the end of the game away to Watford.
Also remember the rage in me when we got denied three points at home to Fulham by the blind linesman.
Confidence was high the following season. ‘We’ll be back in the Prem next season’.
In the opener we then drew 1-1 at home to Scunthorpe United…
What really sticks in me from that decision too is the gut feeling I had that we’d win that night even when we went 0-1 down I was still confident we’d go on to win the game and start a relegation survival bid. I told my brother to back us to win that night too and he did because of my gut feeling (I don’t bet but he does and he did) and that incorrect throw in was not supposed to happen. I knew it would lead to an equaliser too. Of course he wasn’t happy with me at full time but I argued my case over the throw in and still will to this day.You know that gut feeling you get on an absolute certainty. For some reason I had it for us to win that game and it should have happened.1 -
That Reading game was easily the most drunk I've ever been at footballDaveMehmet said:I realised we’d had it after getting a decent 0 0 draw at Man City at Easter, despite Zheng Zi missing a glorious chance to win it, we couldn’t follow it up with a win at home against Reading (another 0 0).
For me the games that fucked us were Fulham home and away. Everton away and Portsmoutb ay home. All very winnable games. Graham Poll I still have vivid dreams about strangling along with his linesman
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In terms of the recruitment, that was always going to be a struggle. The squad under curbs was coming to the end or was at the end of its cycle.
What didn't help was spanking 10 million up the wall on Amdy Faye, Pouso, Traore, Hasslebaink and his salary and Diawara who was decent but I still also have waking nightmares about him letting the ball bounce over him at Wigan which made us have to chase the game and left massive pockets of space for their annoyingly fast and effective forward players to break and kill us
Lisbies miss late on at Watford away
Traore getting himself sent off at West Ham completely avoidably
Getting absolutely tonked at Tottenham
Fulham players handballing it out for a throw then that idiot Poll giving a Fulham free kick that we failed to defend
Not beating Reading, Watford or Sheffield United at home
One of the most complete Charlton Athletic performances ever v West Ham
Missing Liverpool away last game
Carsons penalty save from Lampard at Stamford Bridge
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If somehow Pardew was available before the start of the season and we hired him, how do you think 2006/7 would have panned out?1
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The Thing from Tring.Carter said:
That Reading game was easily the most drunk I've ever been at footballDaveMehmet said:I realised we’d had it after getting a decent 0 0 draw at Man City at Easter, despite Zheng Zi missing a glorious chance to win it, we couldn’t follow it up with a win at home against Reading (another 0 0).
For me the games that fucked us were Fulham home and away. Everton away and Portsmoutb ay home. All very winnable games. Graham Poll I still have vivid dreams about strangling along with his linesman0 -
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Very good question. As much as he’s a wanker, he inherited a pretty awful group of players when he took over. Doubt he would have spent the treasure chest on such a massive bunch of dross that Dowie did.CAFCTrev said:If somehow Pardew was available before the start of the season and we hired him, how do you think 2006/7 would have panned out?1 -
He would’ve still be a back to front.CAFCTrev said:If somehow Pardew was available before the start of the season and we hired him, how do you think 2006/7 would have panned out?0 -
Losing at home to Wycombe in the Quarter Final of the cup is a core memory from that season.2
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Pardew has a decent managerial record. Charlton is probably the worst he's done in a jobDaveMehmet said:
Very good question. As much as he’s a wanker, he inherited a pretty awful group of players when he took over. Doubt he would have spent the treasure chest on such a massive bunch of dross that Dowie did.CAFCTrev said:If somehow Pardew was available before the start of the season and we hired him, how do you think 2006/7 would have panned out?0 -
But that dance thing he did was the most amusing. Wanker1
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It's probably between us and West Brom. 125 days in the job, one league win in 18, 8 consecutive losses and managed to arrange a warm weather break abroad that turned into a drunken Grand Theft Auto situation. He might have taken us into the bottom 3 of the Championship but none of our players ever stole a taxi in Barcelona so there's always thatkillerandflash said:
Pardew has a decent managerial record. Charlton is probably the worst he's done in a jobDaveMehmet said:
Very good question. As much as he’s a wanker, he inherited a pretty awful group of players when he took over. Doubt he would have spent the treasure chest on such a massive bunch of dross that Dowie did.CAFCTrev said:If somehow Pardew was available before the start of the season and we hired him, how do you think 2006/7 would have panned out?0
